Man tries to escape the friendzone and convinces himself that what he did was sexual harassment

Augustuscrassus · 2018-01-01T14:04:30+00:00

Yeah but you have to admit it's scary the current climate we live in.

It has crossed my mind more than a few times that my former oneitis or a girl I fell put with comes out with a #metoo on me. In their mind it WAS sexual harassment.

I've been reported at work before asking a girl for coffee, back when my smv was too low.

strikethrough123 · 2018-01-01T13:07:50+00:00

With this new wave of cucked non-gender abominations it's as if people have forgotten that men have penises and women have vaginas.

max_peenor · 2018-01-01T16:51:11+00:00

One of the comments.

You lied to her. You invited her over under false pretenses.

When I was a young gent, if I invited a female of the species to be alone with me at my abode, it was because I planned to see if she was open to be touching her in the slippery places. That was pretty much a society-wide expectation of a young male seeking alone time with a female. Now, showing up at my place wasn't itself consent to a full on tuna plunge, as she obviously might decide she wasn't feeling it. However, it was a done conclusion that I was at least going to physically propose such a situation.

It was easy for everyone to understand.

Now, everyone is confused and no one has any idea what the hell to do.

Yay progress!

Another comment from this dumbfuck.

We use lots of words for it, like "feeling things out", or "testing hear reaction", but when we say things to each other before we touch, we're getting consent. Again, you didn't give her the opportunity to say no before you touched her.

You need to feel her out by not feeling her out. Yeah, no fucking woman wants to have contract negotiations before you see if she likes your touch. In fact, most of them are unsure of the whole deal until you make some sort of overture. It isn't like he pinned her to the floor and started raping her. He rested his hand on her. She didn't react. He then moved her hand on her. She didn't react. Five minutes later she decided it wasn't for her and left.

Oh oh oh. But yeah, I forgot--the classic blooper misogyny: as a female, she's too fucking stupid to handle situations like this and she's too fucking stupid to realize that a male of the species might be interested in mating with her.

And finally...

"Freezing up" is, by far, one of the most common reactions to unwanted physical contact.

So, I thought women were responsible for their own bodies. Freezing up? So they cannot manage themselves? It's up to men to look out for their safety and protection? Interesting.

Dmva100 · 2018-01-01T14:23:33+00:00

The goal of over broadening the definition of sexual assault, is to ruin the reputations of men to keep them from obtaining high status positions in the workplace, politics etc., or removing them from such positions.

This is especially true on college campuses. If a girl tells a college counselor a guy looked at her the wrong way, they can suspend him, tarnish his record before he can graduate , and he won't get that STEM job he was going for, and that position just MIGHT be available for the women now!

If women can't use the pleasure of sex to sway the men of power, they will instead use it as a badge of victimhood to tear them down, true or not. The women who shame anyone who dare question something 'awful' as unwanted sexual advances, contact, etc. are those who fear the loss of power from such accusations. Odds are those women are ham planets that cannot secure the men they want. The men who stand behind the women on such issues are just beta cucks looking for a whiff of poon by conforming to feminist propaganda and being PC.

We are seeing a change in how sex is used for power. The less incentive for men to commit to women (marriage) the more incentive women will have to use sex as a reputation destruction tool as an effort to weaponize sex by using the law in a different way. Choose committment and or marriage for legal provisioning for your woman, or go to jail and lose everything you work for in your life that you refuse to give to women.

Menchstick · 2018-01-01T17:20:24+00:00

Holy shit that comments chain is truly terrifying, and the fact that the guy talking about "toxic masculinity" was a male is even more .

IAmAHumanB3ing · 2018-01-01T17:35:56+00:00

This is why prostitution should be legal. Us men will never again have to risk our entire careers when asking a woman for coffee.

6-_-j · 2018-01-01T17:07:08+00:00

OMG that "ASKMEN" sub is full of the most vagina-centric advice I've ever seen.

SilentAlpha · 2018-01-01T15:15:06+00:00

I've put the moves on many female friends. Some where it worked, some where I was rejected. I wouldn't call myself "friend zoned" in those situations though since I wasn't acting like their beta servant just to sniff their carseat after I drop them off. We were actual friends who enjoy each other's company and doing stuff together.

Not once have I ever been smacked with a tarnished reputation over it. I grabbed a girl's butt once at a party and got slapped. Even then she was cool about it like 15 minutes later. She does the same shit to guys too.

This was all lik 5-10 years ago though.. I feel like now I probably wouldn't pull that same kind of bold behavior. Too risky now.

ZidaneLoire · 2018-01-01T15:52:54+00:00

I think where he fails is escalating physical touch in completely uncalibrated way.

I mean, you jump from talking to touch her thighs in a prolonged way? Dude's like a hammer. Maybe kino properly better next time.

truedemocracy3 · 2018-01-01T17:20:58+00:00

Have always said it - that sub needs to be renamed to 'Ask Betas'. Guys need to realize this is Reddit. The women are ugly, the men are nerds, everyone is a loser UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE.

Love how pathetic the replies are, really a contrast of BP vs RP. "Apologize for being a jerk", "why are women conditioned not to fight back", lmao so much helplessness. The worst thing is the OP is absolutely fucked. He made a cringe move, definitely didn't do anything morally bad, and is now being attacked for it by white knights instead of given constructive advice. Any chance this guy had at being better with women is set back for another year or so.

g_m171 · 2018-01-01T14:27:43+00:00

leave them be. the more dudes become like this, the more women are available for game-aware men

WTHub · 2018-01-02T10:57:41+00:00

There's an article going around, at least with young millienials, that like 1/3 of women polled said that a non-sexual compliment on their appearance or if asked if he could buy her a drink, constituted harassment.

Here's the article... https://www.dailywire.com/news/23852/study-lot-young-people-think-compliments-drink-amanda-prestigiacomo#

Jonlife · 2018-01-01T19:51:33+00:00

The brainwashing is strong with these cunts. Another blue pill soy boy bites the dust

shakejimmy · 2018-01-01T23:04:33+00:00

So men are expected to make the first move bu women but if they get denied then it's sexual harassment? Quite a gamble.

redartist · 2018-01-02T23:47:00+00:00

This has to be the most blue pill thing I've ever seen. Don't ever think this shit can't get any worse.

Check out Heartiste's (from the sidebar) "Beta of the month" series, you're in for a treat:

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/10/22/beta-of-the-month-creepy-halloween-edition/

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2017/04/13/beta-of-the-month-masculinity-degeneration/

OhhDatDogOMine · 2018-01-01T15:49:15+00:00

A few logical voices were heard, but this comment thread has since been deleted: https://archive.is/VR1to

In most reddit subs, the best comments are always down-voted to the bottom or straight up deleted.

Raknith · 2018-01-02T02:20:56+00:00

I can't read what he did because it's deleted now, but I feel like this all of the time. Personally I find it hard/scary to make moves on girls without it being able to be considered sexual harassment.

[deleted] · 2018-01-03T06:19:14+00:00

I thought of responding to the thread... but jesus what's the point. Seriously, have these clowns ever gotten laid once in their entire lives? They guy's crime is that he was awkward as fuck. No big deal. We've all done it at least once. Just move on.

cashmoney_x · 2018-01-04T14:51:28+00:00

Oh my sweet fuck those comments. Men are LOST.

Einzakin · 2018-01-01T19:52:26+00:00

The guy should just be honest with her. If she isn't into him he needs to move on and get more experience. He clearly creeped her out and I can imagine the way he touched her was just awkward. Oh well, lesson learned, move on.

The disagreement in the thread is because people have different experiences with that type of shit. Sometimes it can be creepy to touch a girls thigh like that, sometimes it isnt, all depends on the situation and context.

That Fluffy guy may be right but he doesn't know how to argue, he sounds like an angry teenager trying to get people to agree with him. If he was a little bit smoother I bet he wouldn't get so many downvotes.

IlluminatedElf · 2018-01-01T18:29:58+00:00

(Gonna get downvoted for this but) He did not sexually assault her but if he made her uncomfortable he should apologize

RosstheMoss81 · 2018-01-01T15:45:16+00:00

Your past is now retrievable, what happened years ago can now be ressurected and history rewritten under the toxic masculinity perspective. Just a matter of time before someone points the figure at you. Question is how will you respond?

Harry_Wangs · 2018-01-01T20:45:15+00:00

We aren't given much information, but it seems to me that this guy could have actually banged his friend if he wasn't such an idiot. Definitely not sexual harassment.

Who just sits there and caresses a girl's thigh for 5 minutes. The fact she sat through so much of that probably means she was down. As guys we don't even need to be that smooth when it comes to Kino. But sitting there caressing her thighs like that is such bad game. He could have just started making out with her if she was fine with him touching her thighs for a few seconds, then escalate to sex.

By staying she was essentially saying "I can see you as a sexual man, let me see what you got". But he ruined it by caressing her thighs for 5 minutes straight like someone with no social skills.

Who does that shit

AllahHatesFags · 2018-01-02T14:30:21+00:00

I don't do the friendzone: if I find a woman attractive and she isn't DTF me, I have no use for her in my life and I break all contact.

[deleted] · 2018-01-01T20:12:17+00:00

Its not about feminism its about Communism. Feminism was created by communists. The true goal is to make everybody workers, not men or women. Destroy the family unit, make everybody equal by force and then toss them into the Communist labor machine. The European Union is communist, which is why you are seeing such major changes in EU member nations, pushed by the governments.

Eliminate Communism, you eliminate the problem of feminism entirely.

1THRILLHOUSE · 2018-01-01T19:53:44+00:00

It sounds like the guy did fuck up.

He invited a chick around who is just a friend with no interest in him. He’s already had a few beers and it’s probably noticeable going from how he describes it. He then just puts his hand on her thigh for 5 minutes, without any lead in or further build up until she leaves.

He even says she must have frozen so he knew she wasn’t keen. It’s basic shit, if people seem freaked out and uncomfortable, they are. Don’t keep pushing sex on people that aren’t keen.

Even your final paragraph seems like bullsht. If you talk like that in real life I doubt you get laid mate.

Yeah this would have worked if she was interested but by sounds of it he dropped the ball. No it’s nothing major and she shouldn’t make it that way but she may have been genuinely scared at the time so he should really smooth it all over.

[deleted] · 2018-01-01T20:06:03+00:00

After reading it he definitely came on a little creepy. Booze on his breath and caressing her thigh is a little creepy. Also like who puts their hand on someone's thigh for five minutes and just leaves it there? That's just weird either make a move or don't but pawing a thigh for 5 minutes is weird. Dude seems like a creep.

xxboldxx · 2018-01-02T12:10:44+00:00

Hmmm, sounds a little Betta to me to buying gifts to get that gift, sounds to me like you turning to those old sad blues dear gent, I say fuck'em but don't buy them shit.

aaasssaaa11 · 2018-01-01T23:25:36+00:00

"I, on the other hand, do not have to resort to "harassment" to try to have sex. I simply shower the woman with gifts and praise and eventually she undresses, opens her legs and tells me that I'm allowed to fuck her."

BETA CUCK ALERT FUCUUUUUUUCK LMAO

Title	Man tries to escape the friendzone and convinces himself that what he did was sexual harassment
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Upvotes	283
Comments	113
Date	January 1, 2018 11:59 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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