Dear gentlemen over 50, Jordan Peterson once told that a good reason to create a family and have children is that it gets lonely in life at some point. Did you experience any loneliness later in life and if yes, how do you co-op with it?

FollowingMyOwnPath · 2019-03-16T15:30:40+00:00

Some married men would kill to feel lonely again.

darkmanilluminate · 2019-03-16T15:47:35+00:00

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Rodion-Raskolnikov · 2019-03-16T15:53:29+00:00

I’m 48. Have a few Plates. No kids. Good job. Comfortable with money but not rich. Have loyal friends. Good at socialising. Go on holiday 3 times a year to interesting places. Do what I want when I want. Not lonely. One plate recently wanted to get serious with me and was furious when I refused. She’s 42....

imthetaxman826 · 2019-03-16T17:42:30+00:00

Widower here, late 50's.

I was one of the few on here that experienced a great marriage. My wife was as close to being a Unicorn as one could get. We were truly looking forward to the retirement years.

After a few years, I'm very comfortable living alone. I'm self-sufficient, my home is spotless and I'm financially secure. Mainly, I can do what I want, when I want. I'm in a casual relationship with a nice woman. But I'd never move her in or marry her or any other female. My best friend, happily married, says I have a great deal. "Three days on, four days off," he says.

For this, I'm somewhat of a curiosity with my friends (those who are left- widowers typically lose 80% of their social network after the wifes passing). They ask, mostly the women, "Why wouldn't you get married again? Who's going to take care of you?"

Me, of course. I don't need, nor want, to be cared for by a woman. And why would I get into a legal situation that's really expensive to get out of?

Do I get lonely? Yeah, sometimes. But that is heavily outweighed by the freedom I enjoy. The only thing I'd really like, at this moment in time, is being closer geographically to my kids and grandkids. But that is completely out of my control.

So things aren't going to change any time soon.

Edit- Thanks for the silver.

alphastrike212 · 2019-03-16T16:19:04+00:00

41, one kid, feeling great. And often sorry for all those men looking miserable at keeping stacy happy.

selfism_mike · 2019-03-16T16:25:00+00:00

After you learn that most people, especially women, are ungrateful traitors you loose interest in company. Once you lost interest, the nagging feeling that you are missing something when nobody is around vanishes. Once that feeling vanishes you can truly enjoy being by yourself and taking care of what really matters to you. Its like being able to truly breath for the first time.

samdepp2019 · 2019-03-16T15:53:56+00:00

I am married She is in the next room I can hear her And yet I am so lonely

that_nast · 2019-03-16T16:36:23+00:00

Im in my mid thirties and work pretty hard at a job I enjoy and stay very active and healthy. I couldnt imagine how exhausting it would be to have a family right now. Most women I've dated barely pulled their own weight. All of my friends who are married and have kids have had to go to the doctor for severe health issues stemming from stress because they're essentially over worked and their body is rejecting what they're doing. I live my life for myself and am aiming to make it as comfortable as possible.

SmamelessMe · 2019-03-16T18:10:53+00:00

Not over 50, but my father died 6 months ago of lung cancer at ripe age of 59. My mum was there. All of the 3 years he's been fighting it.

She didn't try to screw him over.

She didn't sleep around (that I know of).

She went out of her way to make him comfortable, and obsessed about doing the funeral "right by him".

I still think AWALT. This experience gives me hope there are some that can contain their AWALT.

meerita · 2019-03-16T15:31:25+00:00

I have good social life on internet. I also have good times with other friends. I don't need women for company.

Gibits · 2019-03-16T17:30:54+00:00

With all due respect, Jordan Peterson can suck my dick. I don’t clean my room, I have other people do it for me because I can afford it and my time is valuable.

I don’t get lonely. I have my kids, I have close friends, I have my job, I have so much to do and so little time. Devil may Cry 5 isn’t going to beat itself!

Blackphish88 · 2019-03-16T17:51:32+00:00

When I'm lonely it's just because I want someone that can engage me mentally in a certain way and women are very unoriginal so.. They couldn't fill that void anyway. Just analyze what you're lonely.for and understand there's always a better alternative than entering into a pact with a chick.

GrisBosque · 2019-03-16T17:24:23+00:00

Since when is not listening to ragging 24/7 loneliness?

Treeclimber3 · 2019-03-17T00:26:09+00:00

40, no kids, no spouse, no regrets for now.

Loneliness comes to us all occasionally, married, divorced, or lifelong bachelor, but marriage and raising children is no proof against it in our later ages. I just took my grandma to mass at her nursing home, and up on the wall was a volunteerism poster that showed a sad but unsurprising statistic: 65% of nursing home residents never receive a visitor, but even those residents build friendships between themselves. Having friends is a much more reliable barrier to loneliness than marriage and parenthood.

So no matter the decisions we make, regret over the path not taken is always a possibility. That's why introspection and knowing ourselves is so important, that we can be as sure as possible that we've chose the right path for ourselves.

All due respect to Jordan Peterson, I think he tends to underestimate how much variation there is among individuals, and his analyses often turn vague generalities into gospel truth.

DWShimoda · 2019-03-16T15:57:44+00:00

Jordan Peterson is a psychological-mental basketcase; babbles a whole host of bafflegab bullshit.

Best to just ignore the idiot.

yooshio · 2019-03-16T16:29:43+00:00

I'm sure Robin Williams would shut that advice down instantly.

I don't disparage Peterson for trying to help people in his own way.

What I applaud is his efficacy at monetizing outrage.

Sajuck-Khar · 2019-03-16T19:03:21+00:00

My brother is my best friend. If I ever even feel depression coming on (rare but does happen) I confine in him. He tends to nip it in the butt before it even emerges.

Find a trustworthy friend and you will be fine. If you have a social network (we are social beings after all) you'll be fine. Don't abandon it.

Most of the time I enjoy my piece and quiet, but in those rare moments I have someone to turn to and I return the same when he's in that boat.

Also, because he's my blood I feel comfortable discussing and confiding things with him I doubt I would ever even if I'd be married to a long term partner.

Triops56 · 2019-03-16T23:22:56+00:00

I'm 56 and spent the first 25 years of my adult life in committed relationships--married and living together. I never wanted kids, so I had a vasectomy at age 24, and have never regretted that decision. Am I lonely? Not in the least. I have good friends and family members for company when I want it, and lots of peace and quiet when I don't. Every single couple I know--be they friends or family--despise each other. They put on their happy faces at family and public events, but they can rarely keep from gnashing at each other through the simplest event.

When my dad was dying, I took turns with mom taking care of him in shifts so she could have a break. And in his final couple of days, when we both knew he was at death's door, I didn't see one moment of compassion on her face. All I saw on her face was "Hurry up and die." A couple of years later she confessed that during the last ten years of his life she hated him. So there you go, is that how you want to go, with a hateful wife hovering over you wishing for you to die?

Wharfcat · 2019-03-16T23:56:48+00:00

I'm retired and yesterday happened to run into a former coworker at a big box warehouse store. He's 62 and still working I'm 57 and have been retired over 2 years. I went on a 14,000 mile road trip last summer and am prepping to leave for Alaska in May. He has a 5 year old grand daughter and a sister in law living with him and his wife. He hopes to retire next year. He needs hip surgery also. BTW he was looking for a way to mount a 80 inch TV his wife bought the day before. I felt sorry for him but better him than me. MGTOW

packo33 · 2019-03-16T20:18:25+00:00

The only good reason to have kids is that every gene in every cell in your body wants to pass the genetic load onwards. Having kids fulfills your life in such deep way that nothing else comes close.

For any other reason, specially any selfish reason, it is a huge drawback. Not worth the investment at all.

mentalidade_logica · 2019-03-16T21:35:12+00:00

I respect Dr Peterson in many ways but I totally disagree with him when it comes to relationships. I think that he stil believes a relationship is based on a man plus a woman, but that is not the case at all. It's him, her plus her Daddy Government. I sometimes think that he is jealous of the MGTOW life, and of course he is not in a position to support it.

As far as loneliness, it's all subjective. Let's face it, if you are busy, very busy doing stuff, and most likely doing stuff you like because you can, there is no time for you to be lonely. Besides there is no guarantee that your grown up kids or wife will have time for you.

TruthSeekingPerson · 2019-03-16T21:52:52+00:00

I'm early 40s but I can tell you my loneliness peaked in my thirties. It's gone now that I've embraced MGTOW.

Honestly I still do sometimes think about finding a NAWALT but thankfully this board and youtube keep me aware of the fact that AWALT. When they're into you it's because of what you can give them. Women have no loyalty.

FBE_Warframe · 2019-03-16T22:15:14+00:00

Internet community gaming def has changed the game, clubs, work more.

Rodion-Raskolnikov · 2019-03-17T07:53:20+00:00

No. I’m not George clooney in the looks department! The women I sleep with are in their 30s and early 40s. Definitely Post wall but still attractive. Anyway, at my age you find most women under 30 to be annoying and immature.

kagetsuki32 · 2019-03-17T23:47:43+00:00

Jordan Peterson don't know that androids with deep AI will be around in the future. Alexa and Siri are the beginning.

Titus_Aufidius · 2019-03-16T22:53:55+00:00

Juden Peterstein

Friend. I understand you're going through a rough patch. You're taking the first steps through most challenging chapters of life. But don't follow a false prophet out of fear. Educate yourself.

LogicBeforeEmotions · 2019-03-17T05:11:24+00:00

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

So, is there only one person in this world? Do you really need a human with a pussy to NOT feel lonely?

That's some bullshit. I got my homies who stuck with me for the past 15 years. I'm not going to get "lonely".

Dear gentlemen over 50, Jordan Peterson once told that a good reason to create a family and have children is that it gets lonely in life at some point. Did you experience any loneliness later in life and if yes, how do you co-op with it?

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Quit promoting that fucking "pathetic weasel" con-artist.

Bullshit.

GFY troll.