I finally feel enough

touchtime1337 · 2018-05-16T13:49:42+00:00

Glad you hear you pulling yourself out of your hole my friend. YOUR life is too important to let OTHER people affect you, live the way you want to and the right people will stay by your side.

Chikubakidon · 2018-05-16T14:26:17+00:00

Glad you found us. This might sound cliche, but its her, not you. She would have cheated on pretty much anyone. I guarantee you that she cheats in every future LTR. Anyone that can so easily throw away a relationship that lasted years is bound to cheat.

CwzZ · 2018-05-16T13:39:19+00:00

Immerse yourself in hobbies and live in the present! Get yourself a dog and you will get a mate for life!

urban_hermit91 · 2018-05-16T13:30:45+00:00

Nice post. I'm excited to hear of your progress down this path... update post in one month please.

WhistlingAlong · 2018-05-16T14:19:25+00:00

Just once more so it sticks "you don't have to get married. You can still be happy. Very very happy"

2018-05-16T15:01:18+00:00

Spent basically every day since then feeling like I'm not enough, doing everything I can to please women, get dates, etc etc. Discovered this subreddit about a week or two ago and now I can't stop coming here like every day.

Validation is a female commodity, but at the end of the day, it comes from Men. Welcome to the fold brother

labiteatibit · 2018-05-16T13:10:30+00:00

Congrats brother! You're journey begins.

Official_RCLE · 2018-05-16T15:06:30+00:00

Dude, I'm really happy for you. I felt like this too, and many of us did at one point. It's sad that we have to communicate via the internet, however it's awesome that we are able to communicate and support each other as well. I don't know what your personal life is like, but if I were to recommend anything, do yourself a favor and find out who you are again. Pursue any hobbies or interests you have, or have ever thought about. Take your life back!

Edhinor · 2018-05-16T14:33:02+00:00

So glad to read this, welcome here brother, make yourself at home.

Remember to focus on yourself, we only get one life, do what makes you happy, do not seek outside validation, develop interesting hobbies and male friendships with like minded people, get a dog if you need company, and enjoy life (oh, since you are kind of new, allow me to advice you to check Spetsnaz and HuMan in youtube, great Mgtow content)

rationalthought314 · 2018-05-16T15:22:49+00:00

she did you a favor as if you had married her it would have gone a lot worse. She'll probably cheat on whomever she marries and that guy will either blame himself or go psycho-nuts and they'll end up in the papers as a murder-suicide.

Landwhalephobic · 2018-05-16T15:13:00+00:00

nice post. every year a man ages, the less he needs some cunt. you'll get there. i PROMISE! you are smarter than most men already being aware of her whore nature, even if it was after the fact and coming to this sub. you woke up. many men will internalize that betrayal and hate on themselves for the rest of their lives while they submit like little slave dogs to women just to get a little pussy juice from a mediocre post wall hag.

tradcuckhater · 2018-05-16T15:18:13+00:00

You are good enough.

There is nothing wrong with you, your birth was your validation. You don't need their validation so welcome home brother!

talk_show_ghost · 2018-05-16T15:48:28+00:00

As someone who never wanted kids or marriage, this puts me at odds with my family, most of my social circle and society in general. It used to bother me until I realized, conforming is just putting something else forward that isn’t you, solely for the benefit of people you’ll never know. One of the things I’ve seen terminally ill people say is that they wished they would’ve lived their lives closer to their own expectations instead of everyone else’s. That’s always stuck with me. Welcome to freedom, GYOW brother.

Afab67 · 2018-05-16T14:47:43+00:00

Glad we could help and I am sadden to hear you suffered so much because of her. She will get her comeuppance in the form a life of frustration and disappointment. She will never be happy. You, on the other hand, can enjoy the balance of your life enjoying your newly found freedom. I'd rather be in your shoes than hers any day.

TheOnlyThing-Sufjan · 2018-05-16T16:09:18+00:00

Very relatable, I never really had a girlfriend, some succes with women, but never a relationship. I always wonderd what did I do wrong, there must be something wrong with me. Then I realised (after a long journey finding this sub) that it is not me, or mabye it is me but in a sense that I do not want to jump through all those hopes anymore. Let people work themselves to the bone to support childeren and a wife, go and give up all you freedom to some girl and money and you time and attention and be unhappy. True some might get lucky with that the relationship is fullfilling, but in most cases people make each other miserable. After that realisation and butload of stress and anxiety fell from my shoulders. True I might not experience some aspects of life, but that is always the case when you make a choice (you cannot take road A and not take road A at the same time). So yea I'm quite happy and confident, since I'm starting to find myself more and more.

With regard to the depression and not feeling enough those are very close linked together in my opinion. If you start to do things you really enjoy (running/making music/having good conversations with friends and family/cycling are some example from my life). You will start to feel like you are validated, but not by others, but by yourself. This will lift the dark coulds from you for a bit. Ofcourse you will fall down a couple of times but you will learn that this is also part of the whole process.

Now I'm not saying you should never date women or never be intressted in women ever again, but simply let yourself be your own validation, if a women fits in with you that fine if not also fine. Lead a happy and free life and welcome!

Also if your girlfriend knew you struggled with depression she left you in a real shitty situation. The cheating is one thing, but then to end it like that, the common thing to do would be to inform a support network or whatever and break it of in a more civil manner. But then again women right.

silive · 2018-05-16T15:41:16+00:00

Glad you made a U-turn before it's too late, brother! Now remember NOT to take the females as your friends and/or partners. They are not and can only pretend to be such until they have their hidden agendas fulfilled. That's probably why some men consider women to be illogical: they do not understand that a woman ALWAYS has a hidden agenda which is VERY different from her declared one. Caveat emptor!

phreshstart · 2018-05-16T14:59:34+00:00

You're welcome MGTWO brother.

A year and a half later and I still come here every day, at least a few minutes.

DrScott88 · 2018-05-16T16:10:21+00:00

Sad fact of life bro. All women cheat, there are zero exceptions to this.

drizztdourden420 · 2018-05-16T16:11:30+00:00

You are the only person you ever need. Concentrate on growing and becoming the best version of yourself possible, attain your own personal success and happiness. Strive for excellence in whatever you choose to do. Only let people into your life that deserve it and that are a positive influence for you, your goals and aspirations.

Great to hear your story and thank you for sharing it with all of us.

weaklion · 2018-05-16T16:48:06+00:00

Tying your self-worth to pussy can be deadly.

I know exactly where you are coming from. Been there, done that.

Now I am free, more happy and more successful. And in perpetual monk mode. But on the latter, to each their own.

"Respect women" is the mind virus with which they (attempt to) control you.

Somesweatyguy · 2018-05-16T15:19:14+00:00

I feel so welcome and just.... Idk what this is, happy? Lol. Thank you all so much, so ready to see what the sweet life has to offer 😎

ThePlague · 2018-05-16T16:28:07+00:00

Welcome to the fold, brother. You're still healing, and you'll go through several stages akin to the 5 stages of grief. It's ok to feel your emotions, just don't think your emotions. And remember, AWALT. Don't be fooled by feminine "sympathy", it's just another tactic.

CastandRefused · 2018-05-16T16:29:26+00:00

I'm headed down a similar path. She didn't cheat on me but she left me over some "I'm not happy anymore" bullshit. Fine by me, I didnt have enough time for myself anyway. Now I do, and I plan on keeping it that way. I've never ever in my life known a woman who was faithful and committed to their man. Mine would've cheated eventually, it's the same every time, and I dont have the patience for it anymore.

gbevans · 2018-05-16T16:51:53+00:00

I know it's hard to be logical about an affair of the heart, but if she cheated on you after all that time together, then it's not you, it's her and you should really pity the next guy she gets with. you didn't marry her, you should be happy as hell about that, enjoy the hell out of that roadtrip.

Somesweatyguy · 2018-05-16T17:02:54+00:00

You don't have to get married. If you do, chances are she'll cheat on you and take half your stuff, all the while blaming you for her bad decisions. She may give birth to a child that she swears is yours, but isn't. Society will tell you to "man up" and accept this bullshit. Welcome to freedom.

BooDoug · 2018-05-16T17:41:32+00:00

May the force of MGTOW be with you.

JohnnySkidmarx · 2018-05-16T18:43:19+00:00

Dude, we all get depressed at times. But no bitch is worth killing yourself over.

MegtowMonk · 2018-05-16T19:02:18+00:00

I'm happy you didn't kill yourself over your stupid whore ex. It makes me sad to think how many men take their lives over losing a dumb cunt.

FalsePositiveRethink · 2018-05-16T19:29:24+00:00

MGTOW saves lives.

MGTOW_Starter · 2018-05-16T15:55:19+00:00

Take your freedom brother, you deserve it. I really like coming to the sub to see these posts, people who are learning to be free.

elementalwalruss · 2018-05-16T16:00:19+00:00

Way to go bro. Hope you can find yourself and get out of your depressive state.

gbevans · 2018-05-16T16:40:42+00:00

it's YOUR life, look within yourself and do what you want to do.

Baldrbaldr · 2018-05-16T17:54:05+00:00

You need to NOT get married. That's what you need. Like the rest of us.

screwston281 · 2018-05-16T19:35:46+00:00

One red pill a day keeps the whores away.

Edgar_c619 · 2018-05-16T15:16:23+00:00

Good for you

caem123 · 2018-05-16T16:01:37+00:00

"You don't have to marry" is the new mantra for my son. He actually seemed puzzled when I first began saying this. I wish I had heard it, and also heard about surrogate mothers for single fathers too (NY State is surrogate mother friendly BTW).

SovereignSoul76 · 2018-05-16T17:07:35+00:00

It's a lawless game out there. Figure out what works for you, focus on that, and tell everyone else to shove it up their ass sideways :)

gundahir · 2018-05-16T17:08:05+00:00

do what you want. not what other people tell you you should want and should do. big difference ....

Ipride362 · 2018-05-16T17:20:15+00:00

We love you too, brother. That’s how I felt with my heartbreak. And then I started to go my own way on my own. It was slowly coming together and then I stumbled across this place, and as you said, it all started to make sense

a17c81a3 · 2018-05-16T18:11:09+00:00

20% of all kids have a different biological father than the official father. Other than trusting a woman you did nothing wrong.

Im_Not_Kevin · 2018-05-16T18:23:44+00:00

Glad you're focusing inward and finding satisfaction through your own achievements and goals. Relying on other people, particularly a woman, leads to dependence and eventual failure. Happy for you brother.

As the Red Pill sub would say; It's time for Monk Mode.

We at MGTOW just do Monk Mode year-round.

Reinehc · 2018-05-16T19:57:07+00:00

If you really crave women, just hired high class escort, problem solved. but in no fucking way you should go trying to marry, date or make a woman love you, not in 2018, this is a emotional and financial suicide

bignuke87 · 2018-05-16T23:52:27+00:00

Tell her the best magic trick youve ever pulled was making her disappear

mikepreiss · 2018-05-17T05:30:14+00:00

There's something I want to say about your story and others in this same category. So the woman, she's a piece of shit, lying, terrible bitch. And deserves a lotta bad shit to happen to her for what she did to you. That being said, i dont want any excessive anger to burden you throughout your path when going your own way.

I say this because its very easy to become bitter and cement yourself in the hate, the resentment of what happened. It's like a coping mechanism but it's not healthy and is self repeating.

You sound like a great weight was lifting off of your shoulders after learning about mgtow. That's great, and now that you have learned to forgive yourself, dont forget that you represent every man who goes his own way. As mgtow reaches critical mass, more and more grows the importance of proper representation.

If mgtows are seen as content, understandable men, then society cannot attack us. They will try. And boy will they have ammo. But that ammo is not reusable. I dont mean to kiss up to them. Quite the opposite.

We are beating them doing what we do best. Ignoring them and being happy on our own. If they want to tear down the fabric of society while we lounge on our new recliners, then so be it. Just dont forget there will be guys afraid to go mgtow because there might be a stigma if we arent careful.

2018-05-16T15:00:39+00:00

I love myself way more by myself then I ever did with a girl.

nice

oldrunnerguy · 2018-05-16T17:29:27+00:00

If you can't be happy alone with yourself, you can't be happy with someone else. Take responsibility in making your own life fulfilling, no matter what your situation, and you will find that the power to be happy is under your own control.

pahike · 2018-05-16T18:44:50+00:00

Keep living your life the way you want. Not the way a woman would want you too!!!

Hwga_lurker_tw · 2018-05-16T19:34:19+00:00

{Throws upvote immediately.}

You're a wonderful person OP. Never forget that.

Marque01 · 2018-05-16T19:48:53+00:00

Youtube videos for those magic tricks :) that's a mostly untapped market if you can get some cool videos out :)

Good luck and congrats on kicking that monkey off your back. Glad to hear you're enjoying life.

gravelheart · 2018-05-16T20:12:26+00:00

MGTOW saves lives.

Welcome to a better way.

hardtostarboard2016 · 2018-05-16T21:39:07+00:00

More proof that MGTOW saves lives

OldTimeyENT · 2018-05-16T22:59:01+00:00

Thats the kicker though. Women do vile shit but twist the knife. Men do something and most feel shitty over it. We dont kick someone when they are down usually. Difference between empathy and being a soulless witch.

OldRoad · 2018-05-17T02:51:11+00:00

I know what it's like to want to find my dream woman so badly, and try and try to find that, and just keep failing and failing. Getting women to even be remotely interested in me was like trying to climb one of the tallest mountains, or trying to win an Olympic gold medal. I had all these things about me that were good and should have been impressive, but I would be trying to be a comedian and anything else that I could think of to try to entertain them, and the result was usually the woman showing just a bit of attention, but then having no problem moving on with no explanation. Looking back, now I realize that I just didn't have whatever it was that they wanted, which was probably a certain physical appearance.

It's just so ridiculous. So much of attraction from women just seems so out of most guys' reasonable control. Yet the guy will keep trying and trying. This should affect people emotionally, and there should be sympathy for such guys, but my experience is that there usually isn't much sympathy for such men from society in general.

Oh yeah, then when I finally got a serious romantic relationship, it turned out to be just someone trying to take advantage of me and basically trying to get me to provide a place for them to live (my home). I never thought someone could live with a person every day while being so fake as to PRETEND to love them -- what kind of a person could be so close to someone else while lying to them so much? Yet I believe that is what was going on with the most "serious" romantic relationship that I ever had.

Why do guys do this to themselves? As silly as it sounds, I'll say it again: Guys do it because no one told them that they didn't have to. I think it's that simple. Some of us just need to be told, "You don't really have to go through all that -- MGTOW is a real option."

Once you get out of the dating world, so much of the rest of life is logical and within your control to improve. It doesn't depend nearly as much on what you look like, and you are much more likely to be rewarded for working hard at a career or some other activity than you are for trying to date well.

I know exactly the feeling of letting the need to date and marry fade away. Oh yeah, I still find beautiful women to be attractive, but I don't expect them to care about me, and thus I am never particularly disappointed anymore when they almost always don't care about me. But it no longer matters to me! Because now I understand the whole dating/attraction game. I know it's unfair and unreasonable. Why the heck should anyone be sad that they can't win at an unfair game? And maybe more importantly: Why would anyone even want to play an unfair game to begin with?

Since MGTOW, I feel so much better about myself and my life. It's like getting over one of life's greatest challenges (which dating was for me) by not even doing ANYTHING! Wow, the whole key was to just not care about it anymore -- who would have guessed?

As a side benefit, I also know that I'm one less guy out there making the dating world look important and fair by trying to participate in it. Whenever I read stories on this MGTOW group about people noticing that guys appear to be dropping out of dating, I have to admit that it's kind of entertaining: How did they not expect this? If 80% of guys get treated like they are either invisible, unwanted, or barely acceptable, why in the world would they expect these guys to keep trying to date? By not participating in the dating world, not only am I walking away from frustration and feeling bad about myself -- not only am I spending my time on activities where effort is rewarded, which brings me happiness -- but I also help make the point to the dating world that guys like me have value and that we don't have to stick around the dating world forever, no matter how badly or unfairly we get treated. We can find our confidence and our self-respect and take off for more fun places and activities!

prawn108 · 2018-05-16T17:31:28+00:00

First thing I did about half way through reading this was check what sub I was in. I thought it would be relationships and I’d just feel sad for the poor sorry fucker who won’t learn a thing. Now you know what to expect.

suworow · 2018-05-16T18:27:27+00:00

she texts me "I cheated on you at the party, we're done." [...] someone who's always had trust issues and severe depression and all that killed me. [...] Almost committed suicide over it all.

Discovered this subreddit about a week or two ago and now I can't stop coming here like every day.

Aren't you on an emotionally/life rollercoaster? Getting from almost suicide* for bad love to be MGTOW? In a week?

*I assumed it wasn't sarcasm, even if was, words says your feeling/perception.

herpderpfeynman · 2018-05-16T21:05:51+00:00

perfect example of women red pilling men. It's not other men who red pill each other, it's AWALT.

Welcome to freedom and the rest of your life bro.

TalesAbound · 2018-05-16T21:15:24+00:00

MGTOW litterally saves lives. Welcome brother. Stay a while, learn what you can, but don't let this place make you too jaded (Anger phase and Pain phase can have that effect).

Glad you're on an upward curve.

RandomReeditUser · 2018-05-16T21:43:44+00:00

Good for you. I'm sorry to hear you had to learn through the process of pain, but it is the greatest educator.

Finding MGTOW is good, but I want to advocate that you go through the literature provided by the sidebar on TRP, and here at MGTOW. (If you haven't already)

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/5gut7r/red_pill_books_compilation_v3/

Knowledge is power, and power is necessary to protect and improve yourself. Move forward, do what makes you happy, and build a better you.

DanTheMGTOW · 2018-05-16T21:54:55+00:00

MGTOW shows you that you are a good person, and that the illusion of fitting in a lifestyle that is not you is not the way to be.

NeverNeverLandIsNow · 2018-05-16T22:04:56+00:00

Congrats brother! Good on you for booking a show, you should go for the things you love and if you do then you are already doing more than most of the herd ever will.

MGTOW SAVES!

coryandtrevorforever · 2018-05-16T23:04:57+00:00

These are the first days of the best years of your life. You're life is easier and better than it's ever been before and it doesn't cost you anything.

BlackHaz3 · 2018-05-16T23:20:42+00:00

Welcome aboard brother! A good portion of us have gone through the same bullshit you went through as well as being indoctrinated with the ruse of marriage, you are not alone. Best wishes to your new path.

setpejoki · 2018-05-17T00:20:22+00:00

화 이 팅

uniboner · 2018-05-17T00:28:35+00:00

Welcome to the rest of your life! Savor every second!

BitcoinBoffin · 2018-05-17T00:31:21+00:00

MGTOW is as much about giving yourself permission to relax & live life on your own terms as it is an effective lifestyle strategy to live a truly happy existence. Glad you stuck around.

Tuxedoyoda · 2018-05-17T00:39:41+00:00

It matters not how strait the gate,

How charged with punishments the scroll,

I am the master of my fate,

I am the captain of my soul.

2018-05-17T00:49:08+00:00

Welcome aboard. It's gets better every day. Hang in there and concentrate on you.

ififcanIhaveacoatplz · 2018-05-17T00:49:39+00:00

welcome broh. read on.

kayfab · 2018-05-17T02:00:19+00:00

I was with my ex bitch 9 years beautiful house supported her trough many things she was very bad sex head always in the clouds mental issues and she cheated and dumped me for a co worker that was 6 years ago.....

I am glad this happened i am now free and realize all women are scum

SirNecroKnight · 2018-05-17T02:03:18+00:00

Shit that sucks. Glad you found your own way and are deciding to do what you want to make yourself happy. Cunts will be cunts, but once you realize the cunt can't control you as a man, you realize happiness is up to you. Be free, bro!

OgreAllOver · 2018-05-17T02:17:43+00:00

Glad you are here! I found out a few days ago and Im slowly realizing how much of a bitch my gf is... I just dont want to end it yet...

raisins3142 · 2018-05-17T02:44:37+00:00

It's great you're moving on from your life.

Here's one thing you must understand and internalize because it is both true and helpful: her cheating was about her, not you. She's the bad person here. She abused you in that cheating act. Don't let it continue by "her" being in your head. She didn't fool you or get over on you. Cheating is very easy for a woman to do and very easy to hide, at least initially.

Here's a few things you might like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_oWKZferiM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S9MHxectn4

rubbifen · 2018-05-17T05:12:50+00:00

Im glad you didnt kill yourself.

So much weakness in men these days....bad parenting.

No women will ever make you happy, they are just complements to a mans life.

Find your passion, be it hobbies, work or whatever and take it to your max.

Take care bro!

JustCallMeTheRedSpy · 2018-05-17T10:31:24+00:00

Welcome aboard, friend! In case you needed to hear it again, here goes: You do not have to get married. You do not have to have children. You do not have to be with a woman.

You can go your own way.

NotMyWomen · 2018-05-17T10:39:15+00:00

Welcome to the brodome.

Spes sibi quisque.

PoisonDartDog · 2018-05-17T17:13:40+00:00

Paradoxically, being independent and happy on your own will actually make you more attractive to women. Neediness is like a woman repellent. So this is really a win/win situation for you.

Years ago, I read a book called Intimate Connections by psychiatrist David Burns. He encouraged people to stop dating and find happiness on their own before even trying to connect with others. Also, one major premise of the book is that "love is not an adult human need," which is kind of a revelation for most people. It's possible to be happy with another person, but the minute you start needing them to be happy you're entering dangerous territory.

freecooker · 2018-05-17T00:39:36+00:00

NEVER GET MARRIED. MGTOW 4 LIFE!!!

Title	I finally feel enough
Author	Somesweatyguy
Upvotes	460
Comments	118
Date	May 16, 2018 12:46 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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