Young Men are Denied Any Sense of Context in this Society. Alienation and Atomization Ensues. Let's Unify.

cariboo_j · 2016-02-27T19:52:25+00:00

Nice post. You should check out TFM's video Male Vulnerability Need

Sounds like some gay touchy feely shit right?

His thesis is that in the last 3 or 4 generations, male spaces have gradually been dismantled for a variety of reasons which he addresses in the video but I won't go over here. The important thing is that young men are having less and less opportunities to (a) compete with each other thereby learning to be assertive and grow backbones and (b) bond with each other and build a strong network of emotional support.

Young men incorrectly try to meet these unfulfilled needs through a number of false avenues, a major one being relationships with women. But AWALT, most women are not your bros, they don't have your back. Young men growing up without this network of competition and brotherly support (a) won't have the backbone to set reasonable boundaries with women and (b) will be so starved for that feeling of acceptance and belonging they'll compromise their boundaries to keep their women around, thereby allowing themselves to be exploited as beta-bux.

Here's a longer google hangout where he discusses with SixSensesss some hypotheses about the slow creep of misandry in our culture and why male spaces are being dismantled.

always-be-closing · 2016-02-27T19:43:58+00:00

This past month, I've put more money towards my egg/surrogate fund (I want to go the GS/ED route, and be gender selective) than my IRA.

I'll work 'til I'm dead, I'm sure the State will see to that - but I'll gladly support my Sons on their journey to becoming Men.

Personal wealth, land ownership, a comfortable retirement, entertainment and hobbies - - these are all goals of mine, but I have my own mission.

My mission is my Sons; I don't have them yet, but I will, and I reserve all of my love and effort for them.

Mr_Get_Right · 2016-02-27T22:19:14+00:00

I'm at the bottom of the world and everyday my potential is swelling and becoming sharper. All of my fears are fading. I feel like everyday, something impossible becomes easy.

I'm terrified of what this could mean. I'm terrified that I'll challenge life and win in ways impossible for someone "destined to be subpar" like me.

That I could become that shining light of man's ability to grow and change himself.

I'm not used to it. My head is telling me "chill bro look at porn and eat junk food, this isn't us."

But I just keep embracing the void of uncharted life.

Criket · 2016-02-28T01:15:11+00:00

There is sadly almost nothing left in our society to make a man proud to be himself.

2016-02-27T22:13:23+00:00

Meh.

TRP is not a movement. I didn't come here to create social change or "fuck their shit up".

I came here for me because I'm the only one who will ever give a fuck about me.

Whatever we might do for each other there are millions who will happily undo it even if it means cutting their own throats.

Xeagu · 2016-02-27T22:18:07+00:00

Do you satiate your drive towards sex with porn? Is your need for competition funneled into watching the NFL? Do you love knowledge, but rely on passively absorbing it from others?

This struck a massive cord with me. I've identified my porn addiction and have made great strides to combat it. I don't watch the NFL, but I used to spectate eSports like LoL many months ago (video game addiction has since been broken). What really hit home for me was passively absorbing information from others. I listen to channels like Stefan Molyneux, TFM, Niko Choski, Peter Schiff, AMTV, Thunderf00t, Sargon of Akkad, Groundwork for the Metaphysics of MGTOW, and Paul Joseph Watson but it feels like I am just passively absorbing knowledge instead of finding it myself. There are some exceptions to this where I delve into Wikipedia and scour through internal/external sources for new information but is there another more specific method you would recommend to more actively search for new knowledge? Or is my method of synthesizing information from various content producers the right move?

EDIT: Any additional channel recommendations welcome.

2016-02-27T20:34:51+00:00

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unicorn-carousel · 2016-02-27T21:40:05+00:00

Thanks for the reminder to look up at the beautiful sky and ask myself if I'm a real person. The answer is for the most part, no. Yet I think I am more of a real person than the hordes.

Beta-consumer-zombies screw all of us. Stop being self-absorbed and you'll start to see that those of us who give a shit are really all on the same team.

Exactly as you say.

Are you a real person? Or is most of your life a simulation?

As a techie, it's easy to take this to literally mean a VR simulation. I've been interested in the idea of milieu control for quite a while now, been a while since I visited the idea, but it's suddenly relevant again post-RP/DE.

should_ · 2016-02-27T23:58:49+00:00

Do you love knowledge, but rely on passively absorbing it from others?

What would be a more productive way? I always read things others have written, to the detriment of my other goals, but I'm not sure how else to learn unless you mean go outside and discover with my hands. Is that what you mean?

TheSelfGoverned · 2016-02-28T07:47:51+00:00

You know, it's funny, Marx has an idea very similar to this that was by far the most resonant thing I found in his writings.

This Yahoo Answers post explains it surprisingly well:

https://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070401171005AAJb28V

If you're curious to learn more, you can simply search for Marx's writings on Alienation.

I doubt many here will identify with Marx, as his writings were co-opted in the worst ways, but remember, in the context of the time, the "plight of the workers," was the plight of low income men.

RPTeucer · 2016-02-28T09:54:02+00:00

Epicurus is rolling in his grave.

Overkillengine · 2016-02-28T04:58:40+00:00

If by unify you mean openly cluster up in easily carpet bombed groups, count me out. The principles of pragmatism alone would say that is a bad idea. The moral high-ground is worthless if it a smoking crater.

Now, if you mean spreading the teachings needed for men to actualize without painting a pointless bulls-eye on themselves, OK, let's hear it.

thenemaxofredpill · 2016-02-29T17:12:49+00:00

Aren't they perfectly crafted for productive work? Didn't they take millions of years to evolve? What a blessing!

Ever been fucking a chick and mid stroke start thinking, "Man..this shit is awesome. My father did this....my grandfather did this...my caveman grandfather did this. This dates back thousands of years. So much fucking. We are just primitive animals." And then you look down at yourself smashing her face into the bed and think "This is so damn hot. I am a beast and am taking my prize. I've seen this shit on the Nat Geo channel."

cynicalprick01 · 2016-02-28T03:25:53+00:00

Weren't the lands you see forcibly wrestled from the British, Mexicans, Sioux, Navajo, and Apache?

um... no. you really need to research more about colonization of native land if you think they were obtained by forcefully wrestling it from native Americans.

ie. they actually first partnered with native americans, who helped either sides during the wars and forced native americans into shittier and shittier living conditions afterwards. also, 90-95% of natives were killed by disease.

anyways, the whole thing just feels like a clickbait inspirational article with little substance and a lot of pretentiousness.

furthermore, as others have mentioned, TRP is not a movement. it is amoral. it does not tell anyone what they should do.

furthermore, the last thing I want is for all men to unite like this. I am currently doing well as a result of many men taking themselves out of the competition without any effort on my part.

lastly, your last line is very cringeworthy, as you are preaching the choir. it is like me going into a church and telling people that heaven is real and that they shouldnt sin and expecting it to be impactful.

thundercat_011 · 2016-02-28T04:38:14+00:00

Weren't the lands you see forcibly wrestled from the British, Mexicans, Sioux, Navajo, and Apache? Haven't real warriors lived and spilt blood here for centuries?

Great way to alienate all the Mexican readers...

barrel0monkeys · 2016-02-28T05:38:39+00:00

i love Reddit and this sub but you put up a strong argument for me to not waste time here like i do.

Title	Young Men are Denied Any Sense of Context in this Society. Alienation and Atomization Ensues. Let's Unify.
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Date	February 27, 2016 7:25 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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