The disconnect between men and women makes me sad

Mrs_Drgree · 2021-03-15T09:36:27+00:00

No rants

Nuke42 · 2021-03-15T04:59:39+00:00

Paragraphs are your friends.

Godly_geek · 2021-03-15T04:58:45+00:00

Help us out here.

wanderer1976 · 2021-03-15T05:50:35+00:00

There was a post on a blog recently where a woman was complaining that she had been on 500 first dates in a little over 4 years and could not find a single one that met her absurd standards. She was maybe a little more than average in most respects. I wonder if it ever occurred to her that an average guy might struggle to get 4 first dates in 4 years, much less 500.

The only way we have any idea of the differences is listening to what people who have either had abnormally high doses of medical testosterone administered, such as the 1984 East German women's swim team, which resulted in them having high sexual drives and a sexual interest in women when they didn't have any before. Or cases where someone was administered both testosterone blockers and doses of estrogen, such as male to female transitions, that lost almost all interest in sex, but experienced much different orgasms.

PlayfulLawyer · 2021-03-15T05:01:44+00:00

I wish you would use a little bit more spacing haha, but I do get the point and it is sad but it's just the reality of how things are now, especially with social media the division in a lot of ways just continues to grow and not just amongst gender lines, best thing you can do is look out for you and yours.

zeedoctorzee · 2021-03-15T05:31:43+00:00

I think because women are being over sexualized and thus training men to view women this way and like they see certain outfits they see in porn, their mind is going to go to porn... they're taught watching porn is normal, porn teaches guys(usually children, boys in middle school or younger start watching it) that the stuff they see in porn is normal, and also changes their brain to think this way.

This is the basic idea people push that violent video games cause violence which we know is untrue. From what I remember of the research I have read over the years when it comes to pornography the problem is most people browse and use it without issue, but people such as sadists and serial killers are frequently addicts of it. Should we push back against something most people use without issue just because some people have correlating issues with it? I believe no because telling a person they can't have a steak because a baby can't chew it is unacceptable and we know prohibition does not work from examples such as with drugs.

what I mean is like clearly that's an issue, women getting cat called and stalked and stuff is an issue, but instead of saying that issue is just because men suck, men are creeps, etc, why is it that this is happening?

It depends on the individual issue for example catcalling is an entire topic in itself because you see causes behind it such as socioeconomics, powerlessness thus they are striking back against innocent victims, it sometimes works, and a bunch of other facets.

You seem like someone who is trying to understand and a decent person so I will warn you this place is an outright pit of anger, hatred, and despair where we mostly just snipe and yell at each other because most of us are so heavily damaged or are crazies.

SeemedGood · 2021-03-15T05:02:18+00:00

The use of paragraphs, proper punctuation, and proper capitalization can turn the unreadable wall of text you submitted into something with which we might actually engage.

th0tguy · 2021-03-15T09:18:27+00:00

This definitely isn't written well (you made it clear that you're not in a great frame of mind), but I agree with every word of what you said and I feel that this kind of sentiment needs to grow if we are to overcome this mass-polarization that we see in various facets of life now. The core solution in mending the relationship between men and women is sit down, and talk about this and understand each other's struggles. No one gender is to blame, both are and both will reap the negatives.

It's really refreshing to see a post like this, given all the stupid blaming and hating that goes on here.

BackwardsHouse78 · 2021-03-15T06:08:19+00:00

I whole heartily agree. Looking at the way men and women argue online, one would assume they want to kill each other. Comparing and contrasting each other is getting us nowhere. Made even worse by the way we fail to properly interact with each other in the real world. For the most part, we are doing well with each other in day to day interactions but the results seem to be that people are unhappy with intimate relationships.

You’re right about the media having too great an influence on us. We have to say “The Media” because it’s all of it. It’s so large and all encompassing that you can’t single out a specific thing. It’s all connected and working in the same direction. It’s a system that we’re growing up in and we’re used to it.

Speaking of The media and plastic surgery, I have a step sister who has been planning on getting a surgery to remove fat from her stomach and relocate it to her butt. She’s been planning this for almost 2 years. She says it’s because she feels really insecure about her body. I’ve known her for 14 years, I care for her immensely, and it saddens me to hear that because she’s beautiful as she is. she’s 24, it’s not like her body is giving out on her, or she’s sagging in places.

Not really sure what to say but I would like hear from anyone about this.

daproest1 · 2021-03-15T07:09:28+00:00

It wasn’t social media. It was telling us that we’re the same. Men and women are better together than apart. But the moment u make them compete against one another, neither needs the other. If women can make their own money and put off being wives and mothers, and men have access to microwaves, dishwashers, Uber eats, and sex, there is a stand off. No polarity. No harmony. It’s sad.

brainismia · 2021-03-15T07:18:50+00:00

Thank you. I have the same feeling but couldn’t put it into words, I would highlight your last paragraph : that the cause is women and men not listening to each other, because individualist society turned everyone selfish.

Infernir · 2021-03-15T08:55:00+00:00

you seem to be getting societal depression, just no nothing you do can impact everyone in grand scheme of things. I hope one day men & women can just be lovers, partners, and not hurt or use each other so much too. Maybe you should take a break from reddit & go enjoy nature with a woman you fancy or a stroll in the park for mental clarity.

festethefoole1 · 2021-03-15T09:29:44+00:00

Haven’t yet read the post but will battle on through after my morning work meeting.

Agree wholeheartedly with the premise though. In Triggernometry they often ask guests “what’s the one thing we’re not talking about that we should be talking about?” and I think the socio- political relationship between heterosexual men and women should be right up there.

No judgement on who has it harder but we seem to lead lives and have experiences so so different from one another that it’s hard to relate at all.

YouSaidChicken · 2021-03-15T06:07:31+00:00

There’s an awful lot of hamstering in there.

Ignoring all the hamster speak, no one is making you partner with anyone. So don’t do it and avoid the whole dumpster fire.

mechanical_elves · 2021-03-15T05:31:59+00:00

that's what real life is like, take a zanny. There's so little listening can do, it won't change a single thing people will still be people at the end of the day.

You don't have to like every group of people. If you find you don't get along with certain people very much, you can just cease any voluntary interactions with them. Problem solved.

analt223 · 2021-03-15T06:34:13+00:00

Social media ruined society. It was the catalyst to the point the human brain can no longer keep up

passepar2t · 2021-03-15T07:10:51+00:00

I could have reduced this by 50% without losing any content.

basedmillennial95 · 2021-03-15T07:12:15+00:00

History is cyclical.

Hard Patriarchy -> Soft Patriarchy -> Meritocracy -> Soft Matriarchy -> Hard Matriarchy -> Economic Collapse/Demographic Winter - back to Hard Patriarchy

We are currently in the last stage of this cycle wherein the gynocentric misandric culture created by feminism is in the process of destroying the host culture it has infected. Ultimately the alienation between the sexes will only continue to grow and exponentially worsen. Absolutely nothing can be done about it. The Rubicon was crossed in the 1910s.

It is what it is.

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Brilliant_Nothing · 2021-03-15T07:03:56+00:00

Men are so simple that women get confused.

Luna2560 · 2021-03-15T08:40:55+00:00

Honestly these days I'm not sure how many younger people read magazines and I honestly I couldn't tell you if women are being sexualised on TV since I rarely watch it.

What I do know is that it seems like every second girl on Instagram and Tiktok are promoting their onlyfans. I see alot of woman talking about how empowering it is and encouraging other women to "get the bag". I've seen so many women promoting sex work, onlyfans, being a sugar baby etc, im not saying it has never happened but I personally have never seen a man promoting and glamorising sex work in this way.

The sad part is I have seen many minors saying that they can't wait until they are 18 so they can make an onlyfans because it's easy money.

You say alot of woman use excessive make-up and edit their photos, yet those same women will say that they dont do it for men and that it's for their own confidence. Most men I know would much rather no make-up or atleast a more natural make-up look so idk.

As for cat calling, yeah that's gross and needs to stop. As for everything else, if women feel like they are being objectified I think its going to be their responsibility to stop promoting sex work so much and stop sexualising themselves on instagram; I'd much rather see your smile than another tasteless butt pic in the mirror.

rothkochapel · 2021-03-15T08:56:04+00:00

"I feel like a lot of problems on each side were created by social media, like the sexualization and objectification of women"

If you look at porn from let's say, the 19th century, you'll see these things existed way WAAAAY before social media. And how do healthy human beings not sexualize each other anyway?

saskiiiiiiio · 2021-03-15T07:35:16+00:00

I’m so angry I wasted time reading this. Although, to be fair, the simple point you are attempting to describe in a vomit of words is nice.

DREADC0RSAIR · 2021-03-15T08:14:46+00:00

Civilization scaled prosperity until we gave women equality. They have power and now we are here. The issue will never change because women are too selfish to sacrifice or compromise.

throwaway82643898 · 2021-03-15T08:30:15+00:00

Don’t forget about looks. Way more important than people realize. An attractive person will have a different experience than an unattractive person. Both men and women.

ChibsFilipTelfordd · 2021-03-15T09:30:08+00:00

You're simply caught up in the malestrom.

Most women sexualize themselves because they want to get a good partner and they think that dressing slutty is going to catch chad's eye and he's going to date her.

Most men are invisible to women, yet simultaneously feel entitled to sex and relationships. They are not. Yet,

Most people don't rape, murder or assault, and most people aren't victims of them either (miss me with that dumb study that said 1 out of 4 women is assaulted that claimed that cat calling is assault and put it in the same category as rape).

In life, most people go by, doing the best they can to get the thing(s) they want the most.

P.s. porn doesn't cause violence and assault. The worst it does is cause men to misunderstand what a woman likes, which is def a big issue, but easily remedied by speaking up clearly and forcefully

Title	The disconnect between men and women makes me sad
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Date	March 15, 2021 4:55 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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