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[β]MadSeaPhoenixFDS Newbie 314 points315 points316 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Letβs not forget about how they rape and sexually harass female soldiers in the military they want women drafted into. :)
[β]CityOfBirthFDS Newbie 177 points178 points179 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Being part of the military as a woman is genuinely terrifying. As a military woman, you're more likely to be raped by someone wearing your own colours than to be shot at by any enemy
[β]shinyjewelsFDS Apprentice 91 points92 points93 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow that is insane I didn't know that. But yeah, let's blame the women for not partaking in a hostile male-dominated environment that actively discourages women participation to fight wars started by men.
[β]MadSeaPhoenixFDS Newbie 56 points57 points58 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Donβt gotta tell me, I got to experience the ride for myself.
But Iβm sure the free college makes up for it. π
[β]MindeskaFDS Newbie 109 points110 points111 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Right? Most women avoid military, oil rigs and construction jobs BECAUSE OF MEN. It isn't that being on an oil rig at sea is worse than cleaning a hospital, it's that there's a hell of a lot higher chance of being raped when you're stuck in the middle of nowhere with a bunch of men.
[β]iwant-to-stay-unknowFDS Newbie 71 points72 points73 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, βWill feminist want to get drafted,β is bs. A draft for women in WW2 almost did happen. For nurses. The bill to draft nurses got all the way to the SENATE before being shot down by MEN. And the cherry on top? The bill was essentially unneeded. The lack of nurses wasnβt because not enough women were volunteering, it was all the red tape preventing them from doing so. In fact the debate to draft nurses rose more awareness and caused MORE WOMEN TO VOLUNTEER.
Drafting Women?
[β]motioncaptureFFDS Newbie[S] 57 points58 points59 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
U said it sis ππ§ββοΈ
[β]fluffybarbwireFDS Newbie 19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They invented wars, just so they can rape women in other countries. I'll pass on the that whole military shitshow.
[β]Madame-BonfamilleThrowaway Account 168 points169 points170 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
I tried working in a male dominated trade. It was horrific. I have never felt so bad about myself in my life. They feel like they can ask you sexual questions and touch you when they want. Make comments about your body. My boss literally asked me why I don't do my hair. Like because I'm working a physical job and I didn't get the job so I could dress up and pander to the Male gaze. Also they constantly make you "prove" yourself by doing stupid and dangerous practices because they do it. I was so stressed I dropped 50 Ibs in a couple months. I'm so glad I quit. I'm still in therapy dealing with the shit I went through on the job and I haven't been able to work since. It's been over 5 years and I'm still traumatized.
[β]motioncaptureFFDS Newbie[S] 49 points50 points51 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm so sorry for u ! I'm happy that you are out of there and working on getting back to ur power ! Love you queen π€ ! I'm so proud of you πΊπΊπΊπΊπΊ
[β]Madame-BonfamilleThrowaway Account 36 points37 points38 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thank you so much! Love you too queen! No where to go but up! πππ·
[β]motioncaptureFFDS Newbie[S] 24 points25 points26 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Period. π
[β]MadSeaPhoenixFDS Newbie 77 points78 points79 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Iβm so sorry youβve experienced that. The trades really are awful. My husband works the trades and oh boy is this story worth sharing:
On dangerous job site.
Male construction worker sees female worker about to pass by his area.
Male decides this is a great time to try to get her attention.
Male decides to climb on construction equipment and act like a fool.
Construction equipment collapses on him. Also he suffers a fall.
Ends up extremely injured.
Spends a good bit of time in a long term care home, and surprisingly survives.
Finally gets discharged.
Has to return to care home for occupational therapy.
Catches covid at the care home.
Dies.
Hope impressing that lady was worth it. ππ
[β]fluffybarbwireFDS Newbie 29 points30 points31 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm sure male workers logically concluded all this was her fault and she's a bitch for distracting him.
[β]Madame-BonfamilleThrowaway Account 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Proof that WoMeN dOn'T bElOnG iN tHe TrAdEs /s ππ€¬
[β]AcademicMobile1FDS Newbie 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And here I was just wondering how much of these trades are dangerous just because men are fools and far less risk averse than women
[β]PornruinedsocietyFDS Disciple 90 points91 points92 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I bet a large proportion of the men that make comments like this, don't even have a job, let alone ever worked on an oil rig or down a mine, they probably live in their mum's basement, rent free.
Edit Also when MRAs say women can't have equality and want a man to pay for dates, does that mean they also believe men who are kept by women shouldn't be entitled to equality as well then? There are after all men who have sugar mummies or women who support their husband if he loses his job, does that mean they shouldn't be entitled to the same rights as the women who pay for things for them?
[β]thinktwiceorelseFDS Newbie 83 points84 points85 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Did they forget it was women who did literally everything when men went to war, including extremely physically demanding jobs?
[β]jupitaur9FDS Newbie 60 points61 points62 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
βIf wealth was the inevitable result of hard work and enterprise, every woman in Africa would be a millionaire.β
-George Monbiot
[β]Kewpie_1917 48 points49 points50 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I would happily go do those jobs. I DID go work on a saw crew. I had to fight to feel like i had the right to be there the entire time. They dont donβt actually want us there.
Out of sleeping in the snow, not showering for 10 days straight, walking for 14 hours straight with a saw and felling dangerous trees, being around so many men all the time was the hardest part.
[β]AWholeGlareOfCats 20 points21 points22 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Youβre such a badass; no way Iβd even try to do that. Of course men ruined it for you. Existing as a woman means a male environment is automatically a hostile one. Then they act like itβs all our fault. Male Logicβ’.
[β]SeaNegotiation8FDS Apprentice 40 points41 points42 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What a bunch of drama queens.
Men donβt have to worry about the draft, either. And none of these dipshits have ever worked in a coal mine. Hell, most men donβt even know how to change the oil in their car, so they can seriously just shut the fuck up and give us our equal pay already.
[β]MadSeaPhoenixFDS Newbie 29 points30 points31 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Speaking of which, yet another military rape.
[β]geoffersonstarshipFDS Newbie 25 points26 points27 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
also who wants to be pro-draft ??????? like ??????
[β]Throwaway_blarn 26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh, and like childbirth is completely safe, and doesn't kill women?
[β]PinturaMagnificaFDS Newbie 75 points76 points77 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I had read about water-fetching before and forgotten how it affects women and girls. Thank you for the reminder.
When I have the money one day, I'm going to be donating to install accessible, safe wells to give these girls a chance at an education. π
[β]PornruinedsocietyFDS Disciple 51 points52 points53 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I was reading recently about women and children, who pick tea, on tea plantations and the horrible conditions, treatment and not only that, they are subjected to rape and beatings.
[β]PinturaMagnificaFDS Newbie 35 points36 points37 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow, I wish I could say I was surprised. βΉοΈ Thank you for pointing this out. I drink tea every day, and I will start researching the brands I buy from now on.
Rape is prevalent in any environment, especially those in which women are already disadvantaged. Men have no idea about the fear women have to manage regularly.
Also, I love your username.
[β]deep_faked_beansFDS Newbie 50 points51 points52 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The first point from the MRA is so dumb, they say all the time that women should just choose higher paying jobs if they want them, so how have they never thought to tell men to just not choose dangerous jobs if they don't want them? Oh yeah, because they're arguing in bad faith.
[β]GourmayFDS Apprentice 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As part of my work I had to recently do research on water access in remote parts of the world/a charity addressing it and can confirm what's written here. Women in those communities walk for hours under the heat and then carry back huge amounts of water for their family leading to spine deformities and even miscarriages.
[β]penelopekittyFDS STRATEGY COACH 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I traveled to India. Know what I saw? Small women, wearing saris, with six or more cinder blocks stacked on their heads going up and down flights of stairs all day long on construction sites.
[β]motioncaptureFFDS Newbie[S] 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I see it every now and then .. I'm an Indian
[β]Cultural_Training249FDS Newbie 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Only losers say that. We are not equal to each other and that is a fact. Men are equal to men, not women and I don't ever entertain those kind of conversations with ignorant losers.
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