Do married men live longer then single men? Is this real or a myth?

Such_Temporary_9597 · 2021-03-29T19:49:56+00:00

Thats only because the wife nags her husband to go to the doctor so he can stay on the plantation earning if those are those extra years you can have them

YouSaidChicken · 2021-03-29T20:17:42+00:00

No it's a lie by fudging the numbers and playing with stats. Just like how feminists claim 7 out of 4 women are raped on college campuses 45 times a day.

Just lies to push marriage.

They only arrive at that by including divorced guys in with single guys. Nice try. They're suicidal shells of men. They belong firmly with the married guys since they're a product of it.

Never married single guys are much happier and live longer when you kick the divorce raped guys in with the marrieds.

thefudmaster · 2021-03-29T19:44:49+00:00

With a loving and supportive wife, probably. Sadly, loving and supporting wives are a rare breed these days.

ChronoCube762 · 2021-03-29T20:13:28+00:00

Selection bias. Married men tend to be men of better financial means, and hence can better take care of their health. It is not because marriage makes you live longer.

It's basically equivalent to saying "Married men make more money, and men with more money live longer."

CodeDiscombobulated1 · 2021-03-29T20:40:39+00:00

does it matter? We all die in the end, but it comes down to: 'did you spend your time well, while beeing alive?'

The most important thing we can do on this planet isnt how long we live, or even if we had all the fun, but rather how much did we develop as a person

because if we make ourself a better person, this world gets less shitty

Solo_and_Simple · 2021-03-29T20:43:34+00:00

Yes, but with two huge caveats: 1) it's based on classifying all divorced people (who obviously were married) as single, and only considering the 50% of people who remain married as "married", and 2) it's correlation, not causation.

I'll explain those quickly. The first one Bella DePaulo calls "the cheater technique." It exists in all the research on the subject. It classifies people who got married but then divorced as "single people." This means that all the men who got divorce raped and descended into alcoholism or suicide are counted as "single men." It ignores the fact that it was the marriage and divorce that broke these men and shortened their lives. In the research, they are classified as single, and so it looks as if the single life did them in.

Second issue is correlation vs. causation. The pro-marriage promulgators of the research like to present these findings as if they indicate marriage makes you live longer. You can't draw that conclusion from the data. It's just a simple correlation. As most people know, you can't get causation from correlation. The correlation could be due to some external factor, not to marriage itself. In fact, I think it most likely is.

For example, people who get married are more likely to be healthy in the first place, compared to those who don't. Pre-existing health and health habits are responsible for the correlation, not marriage. People with serious illnesses and poor health habits are less likely to get married in the first place. Yes, there are of course exceptions, but we're talking statistical population averages. So marriage is just a marker for good health and health habits, not a cause.

Second example: people who stay married are more likely to be healthy than those who divorce. If you develop a chronic illness when married, that puts a lot of stress on the marriage. A lot of marriages crumble under the long-term stress of illness, and people bail. Then all those people -- who were married but now are not, and who are more likely to die early because of their illness -- are now classified as "single," bringing the single stats way down.

One more example for good measure. People who get married and stay married tend to live more conventional, safe lifestyles than those who don't. As part of that, they are less likely to drink a lot, do lots of drugs, or engage in other high-risk behaviors. As a result, they live longer -- but not because of the marriage; rather, because of a basic predisposition to live a safe, conventional sort of life.

Bottom line, the research is skewed by the cheater technique, and even if there is a correlation after accounting for that, it's just a correlation, not a causal relationship (marriage is not making people live longer). And it's likely a spurious correlation due to other factors like the ones mentioned above.

Dr. DePaulo, Debunking the Myth That Married People Live Longer:

http://www.belladepaulo.com/2013/04/debunking-the-myth-that-married-people-live-longer/?fbclid=IwAR2xZpT9j5dBjWSQ8CMG6YrGQK9yq76Dn5q7dzI9I5ziCGn_i1jcJZiAoac

Replicant3982 · 2021-03-29T23:29:08+00:00

Preselection bias. Women usually marry healthy men, leaving those of poor health to die alone.

ConditionTerrible974 · 2021-03-29T19:27:09+00:00

Bullshit

RHYMES_WITH_AGINA · 2021-03-29T19:54:58+00:00

They probably do live longer. Quality of life, however? Hahahaha hard pass.

Odd-Reference-32 · 2021-03-29T23:43:46+00:00

Why do men die before their wives? Because they want to!

cz_masterrace · 2021-03-30T00:41:13+00:00

Single guys are having more fun than a married man carrying out his prison sentence.

ChainsawJones1984 · 2021-03-30T02:48:49+00:00

It's based on the idea of the guy is happily and content in marriage. The assumption is that a guy can't be happy without marriage.

The brutal truth is that marriage is hard work, nagging, stress over all the debt she runs up for her happiness. It gives her husband purpose, but most guys die years before his wife. Most live with anxiety as they age.

In short, it's not what it's cracked up to be.

The key is just be good with yourself. Not always happy, but not lonely or feeling constantly down.

Phantom_Spark · 2021-03-30T05:01:07+00:00

It’s a lie. It’s in the statistics. On one side you have married men. On the other side you have a lot of men broken by divorce mixed with with everything else.

Only way it would statistically make sense is to tease out for other variables

Once you control for variables, you realize she’s not doing much for your health. The burden a woman places on a man to increase his earnings easily cancels out any health benefits she might provide.

If you understand statistics and research methodology this stuff doesn’t fool you in the slightest.

prinseofpersia · 2021-03-30T05:37:20+00:00

It's also because married men are more wealthy on average - women choose them of course. And there are many, many outlier men who are born with illnesses (physical and mental), who have extreme behaviours, etc. These outliers are unlikely to marry and they skew the results

Nathaniel66 · 2021-03-30T06:25:58+00:00

Question is, who is happy? Married or single? An animal may live longer in a zoo cage than in natural environment, but what's better for this animal?

King_Yautja · 2021-03-30T09:06:58+00:00

There might be some truth to it. Testosterone is what kills men it makes us susceptible to a few common ailments that affect people in their later years, and they affect men disproportionately. Married men have lower testosterone, which in turn might lower their risk and statistically add a few years to their life expectancy, but I'm not sure that's a trade worth making. 50 years as an testosterone fuelled alpha or 60 years as a henpecked beta? I know what I'd pick.

S_Taera · 2021-03-29T19:32:13+00:00

Do you have any source? i think this is not about marriage or single, this is more about how that man taking care of his health. Poor diet? Prolonged stress from marriage/loneliness? Does he have enough free time to work out or proper rest? Is his profession have higher risk of danger?

A man who is living a peaceful healthy solitary life no doubt will live longer than a man who is trapped in miserable marriage, financial problem, depression and other emotional burden, or a man who's in happy stable marriage will live longer vs a man who is depressed and suffer from loneliness

30203forever · 2021-03-29T20:20:19+00:00

I don’t understand how anyone (male or female) could live longer if they are married.

Because they count the divorced people (male and female) as singles. So once again, lies, damn lies and statistics. Understand now?

Jolly_Ruin2303 · 2021-03-30T00:34:56+00:00

It's the other way around.

cleats4u · 2021-03-30T03:01:39+00:00

The anxiety and stress of being in a relationshit with a woman is enough to put any man in an early grave. I guarantee you her mother won't like you. And that pretty much means nobody on her side of the family is going to like you unless your kissing ass "constantly". Throw in all the nagging, bitching and not "good enough". You will have a heart attack when you hit your 50's.

tasteful_boner · 2021-03-30T04:33:32+00:00

Married men, IF the marriage is stable, live longer because they have companionship. Companionship is directly corroborated to better long term health. Now, that doesnt meen it has to be a marriage. I hypothesize the same results could be gotten from a lifelong best friend or roommate. But platonic friends tend to not live together their whole lives.

The other reason is because married men tend to take fewer risks.

All that being said, the prospect of living a few years longer would not personally make me choose any lifestyle I dont think is for me.

HeftyAdministration8 · 2021-03-30T14:25:44+00:00

Others have (correctly) commented on flaws in the studies.

Also: as you get older, injuries become more likely and more serious. Having someone around full-time is a huge safety factor.

Rehonored · 2021-03-30T15:08:17+00:00

I’m not sure if it’s true, I think reality of it is married men must go for check ups more often then unmarried men I thibk lol

principledbeast1 · 2021-03-30T17:22:33+00:00

Most men if left to their own devices do not take care of themselves and are more likely to engage in vices like alcoholism and smoking. I would bet my last dollar that if you compare a single never married bachelor who eats well and exercises with a married man and stripped out genetic dispositions to disease that the bachelor would always live longer from having less stress generally.

BlackmesaTBX · 2021-03-30T19:00:36+00:00

Depends what the man values.

If freedom, sanity, self-sufficiency are more important than the occasional ass, then I’d say it’d be a net detriment to a man’s health.

Title	Do married men live longer then single men? Is this real or a myth?
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Date	March 29, 2021 7:18 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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