Largest pharmacy chain in Canada: "Women’s health is our priority" and "Putting women's health first"

evil-doer · 2021-05-19T16:59:25+00:00

https://www1.shoppersdrugmart.ca/en/love-you/womenshealth Just got this email from them today linking to this page here. I guess men are second class citizens?...

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In my view they aim advertising at women’s health issues because women’s health is more complicated than men’s. In a generalized way, obviously cancer is complicated no matter your gender but women have separate organs that literally grow people.

That's ridiculous. More men work in industries and jobs that expose them to hazardous work conditions and toxic chemicals than women do. Men's reproductive organs do "literally grow people", are more exposed outside the body to injury.

I think women’s health clinics and targeted advertising like this has become more main stream because women, especially in the US, don’t have the medical access they need. The specific uterus based medical care they need.

Shopper's Drug Mart is in Canada. And 'health' refers to more than just the uterus.

A lot of women pay out of pocket for birth control, which is basically forced upon them because of their gender.

And men don't?

Where’s the men fighting sex discrimination when it comes to birth control for everybody, everyone should have the access, the burden and the responsibility to prevent pregnancy.

Yes, the US is a basket case when it comes to providing birth control, family planning and access to abortion services - especially compared to Canada. Abortion and family planning services are routinely provided by Canadian hospitals and are publically-funded through the provincial health care systems. Which, by the way, are entirely funded by taxpayer dollars - both male and female.

THERE IS NO LAW in Canada regulating or restricting access to abortion services, precisely because in the 1980s the Parliament of Canada - which at that time was made up of mostly men - decided not to pass any such law, after the previous law was struck down by the Supreme Court of Canada - which, at that time, was also made up of mostly men.

So in answer to your question, That's Where The Men Are.

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The notion that women have more health issues than men is fkin detached ahah.

Not only do men have more health problems, it's known that they're probably under reported, it's something I was thought in university by a sociology professor.

When making a diagnosis you need to keep in mind that with most men you need to pry a lot to figure out everything that's wrong because they won't tell you about some of their problems because they might be used to them or think they're normal.

"Yeah this crippling back pain? It's normal I've worked construction for 20 years. That's why I didn't mention it. Am I going to stop or do something about it? Nah it's normal"

Meanwhile women will just spew out everything that's wrong with them and the 10 different home remedies they saw on Facebook that they've been trying to fix the problem with.

Of course these are generalisations and don't apply to everyone, above all else you should look as deeply into things as possible regardless of the individual but it's something you're tought to keep in mind.

"Oh women have more reproductive system issues therefore they have more overall health issues than men" - No that's stupid, its one system among many and saying that completely ignores social roles and the different tasks they perform.

Though an interesting point. If they had completely equal lifes, yeah men would probably be healthier for longer, men evolved to be useful all their lifes, women evolved to be useful while their reproductive system works.

That's because men can reproduce their entire lives, women don't pass on their genes after their reproductive system stops working. So if you're able to have more kids because you have more time to do so it's normal that whoever lives the longest has more kids, therefore spreading the longevity genes.

This is why women detiriorate so much after menopause.

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You’re so based everything you’ve said is from a mad perspective. I agree with some of what you said, men’s health issues are under reported due to many reasons. But so are women’s due to reason based on gender.

I would argue carrying 50% of your DNA around with you and shooting it wherever you can is less complicated than taking two separate sets of DNA and growing a human being inside you for 9 months. Medical care for women is very important, not more important then men’s as they are 50% too , but very important as it’s includes embryos and babies.

Basically doctors for a very long time said,

“Here is our evidence that women are reproductive bodies and they need to stay at home and we can’t risk making them infertile by making them too educated, look how tiny their heads are”

You’re straight up sexist my guy, “men would live longer because they’ve evolved to be useful, Women are only useful to reproduce”

Such a biological point of view, sure if we were straight up animals with no ability to think or feel, men and women would be used for what they’ve “evolved for” the big strong men would do nothing but the heavy lifting for the women while the women lay around and give birth.

Unfortunately we have evolved.

Why exactly do women live longer then? If menopause is just destroying them?

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You’re so based

It's pronounced "biased".

I agree with some of what you said, men’s health issues are under reported due to many reasons. But so are women’s due to reason based on gender.

So then there is no logical reason for a national pharmacy chain used by both men and women to focus exclusively on one gender.

I would argue carrying 50% of your DNA around with you and shooting it wherever you can is less complicated than taking two separate sets of DNA and growing a human being inside you for 9 months. Medical care for women is very important, not more important then men’s as they are 50% too , but very important as it’s includes embryos and babies.

Who cares. Health is not exclusively about reproduction. That's why gynecology and obstetrics are separate professions. Health is also about things like stress, cancer, heart disease, nutrition, infectious diseases, hygiene, vaccines, depression, parasites, seasonal flus, physiotherapy, etc., etc., etc. Apparently you think all humans are nothing more than extensions of their reproductive systems.

You’re straight up sexist my guy, “men would live longer because they’ve evolved to be useful, Women are only useful to reproduce”

Never said that.

Why exactly do women live longer then? If menopause is just destroying them?

Never said that either. Now you are listening to little voices in your head.

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It’s called a typo? And I do want to apologize you were not in fact the sexist saying those things lol. It was somebody else sorry definitely came into this convo thinking you said some whack shit. Anyway

The logical reason for a national pharmacy chain used by both men and women to “advertise to select groups at a time” that doesn’t not mean they are focusing “exclusively on one gender”.

I never said women’s medical care is more important just more complicated. I don’t see an issue with that.

It’s just an ad directed toward women, historically women wait longer for pain medication than men, wait longer to be diagnosed with cancer, are more likely to have their physical symptoms ascribed to mental health issues, are more likely to have their heart disease misdiagnosed or to become disabled after a stroke, and are more likely to suffer illnesses ignored or denied by the medical profession. Why wouldn’t they want to go somewhere that say they’re a priority.

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Um.... Not born yet??

And that wasn’t my point he fought for women’s rights, good on him. He was helping women’s access to abortion services but he was not advocating for gender equality.

That what I’m asking, I’ve noticed a lot of women fight for equality on both sides, (with exceptions of course) but a lot of men on the men’s rights side of things refuse to see the other side.

For example you say you want equality but would you actually want to be a stay at home dad? If so good for you but a lot of the men I’ve interacted with especially on this sub would not say yes.

Women literally pay more to be alive, period tax, why should I pay more because I bleed once a month, why should I pay more because I don’t want to get pregnant? Of course most men don’t experience these things, and women need this medical support or people die. But women should not have to carry the extra financial, emotional and physical burden of preventing pregnancies.

Like it’s not a bad thing he helped get women access to medical services, it’s just not equality.

Everyone was so worried when the covid vaccine had a chance of causing blood clots, but certain birth controls can cause:

Blood clots in the legs Heart attacks and stroke, especially if you smoke Liver disorders Gallbladder disease

And that’s only the rare shit not even the daily shit.

Where’s the gender equality?? Why is it women putting their lives at risk with insane chemicals that mess with their bodies?

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You think people choose low paying jobs? I mean that’s not how it works. For most people you either can pay for rent and groceries or tuition. Not everyone has the luxury of choosing how they survive.

Not to mention what your describing is called the gender pay gap.

In 2021 in Canada women on average make 32% less than than white men born in Canada. Racialized women make 40 percent less. For Indigenous women, the gap is 45 percent and for immigrant women and women with a disability, that difference is 55 percent and 56 percent less respectively.

This has nothing to do with the type of job. numerous studies have shown female physicians earn 8 to 29% less than their male counterparts. Why should a neurosurgeon with a penis be paid more exactly?

And yes we should strive for some semblance of 50/50 in all work areas. But if women are paid less anyway why would they want to work as hard? The pay gap has to change if what your asking for can happen.

That also doesn’t change societal ideas that only women are nurtures and only men are providers. I’ve heard horror stories of people calling the cops because they think he’s kidnapping random children. While if it were a woman, she would be perceived as the babysitter or something.

To answer your question, staying home with my kid 24/7 would be rad. We’re definitely going to take turns staying home at first but realistically neither of us will truly be stay at home parents. We both like working, and are both equally very excited about future babies.

I feel like stay at home parents don’t really exist anymore unless your rich either...

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You think people choose low paying jobs? I mean that’s not how it works.

Numerous studies have shown women choose lower paying careers. The same studies will also tell you women tend to choose less pay for more flexibility, do not attempt to negotiate salary, etc.

Not to mention what your describing is called the gender pay gap

The wage gap is a myth, and has been a myth since its inception. The original study by the UN was so horribly flawed, and did not take into account basic things such as experience, education, etc. The only way this myth works is when you take the data in aggregate, comparing a male CEO to a female cashier and so on.

numerous studies have shown female physicians earn 8 to 29% less than their male counterparts. Why should a neurosurgeon with a penis be paid more exactly?

See "wage gap myth" guaranteed these women earning less have one or more of the following, less education, less experience, did not negotiate for salary, took a break from their career path, etc.

Can you cite any credible sources pointing to women physicians, with identical time worked, experience, skills, education, making substantially less than a man?

But if women are paid less anyway why would they want to work as hard?

If women were actually paid less, wouldn't companies hire exclusively women? Salary costs are always one of, if not the largest line item on most companies budgets. This would just be a sound financial decision, if it were true that is.

FYI in Canada, it has been illegal to pay people less based on gender since 1963, see Equal Pay Act.

A lot of these ideas you have are either propaganda that you have unfortunately been brainwashed to believe, or just simply outdated information which has been disproven multiple times over.

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Don't be so bitter, I can tell in all your comments. Yes equality equity bullshit, but what the fuck will you do about it besides ruin your life being pissed off?

Do you personally want to be someone's charity? What specific men's issues needs do you personally have that are not being addressed?

If you have mental health issues, please go see a counselor and work it out. If you are tired of working a physical job that is hard on your body, please go see a physical therapist or find a different job.

If you are pissed some women took the programming position you wanted, well chances are, your fellow competitive men would have taken it anyways.

Half of charities for mental health are sub-par to begin with.

Go see a counselor and work it out. Yes it sucks, Im not saying get over it, I'm saying work out what you can control.

The real assholes in the world are the ones on top in their executive positions and high salary jobs, born privileged. We are like a caste system in a way whether you like it or not, doesn't matter what they told you when you were young.

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Nope. Just for your own good bro. I'm not saying give in to the minority privilege thing, it is a thing in many areas.

Just don't be so bitter. Don't take part in the hate towards it, don't take part in the support toward it either.

You have to be willing to walk away for your own peace of mind. Be indifferent.

Or you can just hate it, make yourself bitter about it, and it makes you look bad publicly eventually since it comes out.

If you cannot let go of the bitterness, see a counselor, they might be able to help you resolve it.

Kind of like when a women is fucked over by a man, she hates all men (we know that type) and it just makes her look like a sexist bitch. No one likes those people, they need to work their shit out too.

R/MGTOW2 has some good stuff on self improvement and self peace. It is blissful being OK with what happens.

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Nope. Criticism is fine, but it's not criticism, it's just plain old complaining about why some groups have it better.

Like how the rich keep screwing over the lower classes.

When it becomes an issue and takes over your mind and makes you bitter it is no longer criticism, nor is it constructive to you personally.

I'm not going to bitch about how the upper class is so much better off and educated, that's how it is, that's how it will be.

I make a plan, I get educated and I learn to invest my time and money into things that will help me out or groups j care about.

Complaining isn't doing shit but pissing you off and you know it. Do yourself a favor and stop "criticizing" shit that you cannot change or get off your ass and volunteer at the VA or men's program.

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What are you doing about it? Why do you expect companies to do something about it.

There are places you can volunteer, things you can do, suicide hotline you can volunteer.

Plenty of things you can do to contribute.

What fucking male specific issues are not being taken care of medically besides mental health? What can a pharmacy do to help men in this aspect? Name them. Get your mental health checked and stop being so angry and do something about it.

Complainers is all I see on here. Shit attitude from what should be a good subreddit. Instead you all just bitch about women's issues and do nothing. "Oh that's what twoX is too" so they are bitching too.

You think people like feminists who complain about petty shit? No. No one does.

Unsubscribing. Redirect your anger into something good for yourself or fellow brothers, not bitching and complaining, that's all I said.

You don't care about other men at all. You know you fucking don't otherwise you would help build them up and not bitch about women.

The most pathetic kind of people complain about what others have and do nothing, they will always do nothing to help themselves, LET ALONE other men. That's why I told OP, they need to see a mental health person or what issues they need to resolve.

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