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But equality laws were just supposed to screw over boys. Girls empowerment camp canceled after attorney claims it violates anti-discrimination laws

andejoh

March 4, 2018
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/r/MensRights
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Title But equality laws were just supposed to screw over boys. Girls empowerment camp canceled after attorney claims it violates anti-discrimination laws
Author

andejoh

Upvotes 203
Comments 44
Date March 4, 2018 8:38 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/820dcs/but_equality_laws_were_just_supposed_to_screw/
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Comments

[–]TibsKirk 51 points52 points53 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

An interesting story. It is nice to see some consistency when it comes to these things and governmental funds. Now if somebody could please send a letter about the need for a White House Council on Boys, since they have one on girls, or, god forbid, some equal awareness campaigns for men's health issues.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

America does not need a White House Council on Boys nor Girls. We just need government to get out of the way while protecting the Liberty of all, equally.

[–]TibsKirk 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You want them to protect by getting out of the way? Imagine telling a police officer that line of reasoning.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What the Hell are you even talking about?

If you commit a crime you should be arrested. If you have not committed a crime the police should leave you alone.

[–]blueoak9 -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you commit a crime you should be arrested.

That's government overreach. Or do you somehow think the police and the court system and the prison system aren't the government?

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points35 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

That guy does that all over California. Good on him.

[–]Lethn 17 points18 points19 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

It is a good thing to do, what's amazing though is, these people just don't fucking learn all they would have to do is be honest about what they're doing and everyone would just go away and leave them alone.

However, what do they do? They fuck with men's only events constantly, they attack men, they shut them down and declare that anything with too much men is a 'problem'. In the articles there's some girl bitching about it and I just can't have sympathy for her because I really doubt if she's happy to take part in an event like that she'd give two shits about anything men do on their own.

[–]mwobuddy 25 points26 points27 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Read further.

Fourteen-year-old Alexandra Mondragon said she had been looking at the date on the calendar for weeks, knowing the camp was coming up. She said she’s disappointed she won’t be able to go.

"I was really upset,” she said. “My mom told me what happened and I was kind of sad and a little bit angry because this guy is taking away a camp for so many girls that they have already signed up for and registered for... I feel this is really taking away from female empowerment.”

A 14 year old female says "this guy is taking away a camp for so many girls and taking away female empowerment".

who's been coaching her?

[–]Lethn 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I noticed that too, but it wouldn't be that surprising to hear a 14 year old say it given how feminist and left wing some school teachers can be.

[–]Feiebee 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

SorryNotSorry

I was going to post that too.

[–]alrightjaewegetit[🍰] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

that’s exactly what i thought when i read that. sounds like her mom hasn’t been laid in awhile and needed to get back at the patriarchy

[–]KingRobotPrince 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

An absolutely essential thing to have done. Really glad someone is able to do it.

[–]Historybuffman 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

""I would rather the camp continue with boys than have it canceled,” she said. “Ideally they could be two different camps in the future.”"

Separate but equal? Our country tried that... didn't work.

[–]Archibald_Andino 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This person at least sort of gets it. Option one: camp for everyone, Option two: one camp for boys and one camp for girls.... however, it's always, always Option three they insist on: one camp for girls only combined with a strict ban on anything boys only.

Same deal with those Wonder Woman screenings. No one cared about the actual screening. It was the double standard being exposed where they insist that they alone can be singled gendered and exclusionary with no one else having this option. "It's different when we do it"

[–]plainwalk 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It some areas. Boys only camps and girls only camps are a bit different.

[–]Archibald_Andino 18 points19 points20 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's interesting that these stories always fail to mention how there is never a boys-only/mens-only version ever allowed.

[–]Vandechoz 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

this guy is taking away a camp for so many girls that they have already signed up for and registered for

ah...no, that would be the law that is taking away that camp's state funding

if you have a problem that, consider contacting your legislators and ask them to repeal sex discrimination laws

[–]Lethn 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

“We have no record of the young man attempting to register, nor of his attempting to contact the foundation,” Laing said in an email Tuesday. “We can only surmise that he might have attempted to register after the camp was already full (it fills up within 36 hours) and got a notification indicating the camp was full.”

Why on earth would they honestly think that they can lie about that and get away with it?

[–]armaadi 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course there's no record when the website won't let you register if you are a boy.

[–]mikesteane 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They said that gender was not a selection criteria, but they did not tell us how many males were selected.

[–]Feiebee 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a girl's camp. The answer is none.

[–]KingRobotPrince 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I actually have no issue with a girl's only career camp. But since a boy's only camp would not be allowed, this is the right thing to do.

It exposes just how stupid these laws are.

I can imagine some enraged feminazi reeeeeeeeing at the news "but this is for girls! That law is for boys!!!"

[–]NoFanOfTheCold 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Beautiful

[–]Blutarg 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Gosh, who could have seen this coming???

[–]tenchineuro 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hey everybody, you can relax, the governor reinstated the event.

/s

[–]DavidByron2 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Sue them. Even though they say it's now open to boys it's obviously trying to exclude them by calling it a girl's camp, and also if all the people previously registered (all girls of course) are allowed to take the places then in no sense is this an event that allows boys.

The city says the families who previously registered for the cancelled camp will have first choice of the weekend on which they wish to take part in the new camps.

Those already on the waiting list will also have the opportunity to register, the city said.

https://timesofsandiego.com/life/2018/03/06/faulconer-revives-girls-empowerment-fire-camp-after-sudden-cancellation/

[–]DavidByron2 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lying sacks of shit. But they are obviously afraid of looking like bigots which is good.

Laing said if he had tried to register while slots were available, he would have been admitted because gender isn’t one of the criteria for enrollment.

Riiiiight. You don't have to be a girl to go to the girls-only Girls camp which had historically only had girls and advertised as only for girls. Well what a shame they didn't try to tell the city attorney that, because for some bizarre reason they had the opposite impression.

“I would rather the camp continue with boys than have it canceled,” she said. “Ideally they could be two different camps in the future.”

Yeah you'd think that would be the fucking beyond obvious solution but noooooo. The bigots who organized it would far rather cancel the entire event than include even one boy. and why? Because they see it as an opportunity to spread hate, like this:

“My mom told me what happened and I was kind of sad and a little bit angry because this guy is taking away a camp for so many girls

I'm sure her mom told her that the people she ought to be angry with are the fucking bigots that broke the law just to spread hate, right? No?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good.

Equal application of the freaking law for once.

[–]mwobuddy -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

“Our office is in receipt of your February 22, 2018, letter. "

who actually talks like that

[–]plainwalk 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Me? When replying to an official e-mail/letter requiring confirmation upon receipt, that's... pretty much what you say. And 'Please find attached "x"' when sending an attachments.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I thought he was referring to the excessive commas.

[–]plainwalk 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Maybe. That's why I put day in front of month as the Europeans do. It's one of the advantages of being Canadian; you can pick and choose which of the two formats you prefer in so many different grammatical ways.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think it's a formatting thing, it's just bad grammar. The date of the letter is an adjective. It doesn't make sense to put another comma after it. It would be like writing "I have a black, cat".

[–]mwobuddy -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why not just say "we got your letter" or "we received your letter" instead of "our office is in receipt" like some kind of pompous douche

[–]mikesteane 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Weasels.

[+]ItSeemedObvious -11 points-10 points-9 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

it's unfortunate we have come to a crossroad where someone feels this is necessary. Let's hope hes doing it for the right reasons.

[–]zulu127 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"Advocating for the equal treatment of people based on their race, sex, age, religion, sexual orientation, and other protected personal characteristics is a professional and personal campaign of mine,” Rava said.

He is.

[–]ItSeemedObvious 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's good to hear, would hate to see him going around trying to make moeny off this.

[–]blueoak9 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It is unfortunate and it is necessary.

[–]ItSeemedObvious 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't disagree. sad state of affairs.

[+]Yes_I_am_racist -9 points-8 points-7 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Attorney was a white male

[–]zulu127 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Your point?

[–]Feiebee 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Read name.

[–]zulu127 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lovely.

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