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Obama's female staffers banded together and repeated what other female staffers said to make sure it was heard. So this is how some of the most important decisions in our country were made

atheist4thecause

September 14, 2016
44 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/09/heres-how-obamas-female-staffers-made-their-voices-heard.html
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Title Obama's female staffers banded together and repeated what other female staffers said to make sure it was heard. So this is how some of the most important decisions in our country were made
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atheist4thecause

Upvotes 44
Comments 36
Date September 14, 2016 10:24 AM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/52pt5x/obamas_female_staffers_banded_together_and/
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[–]allowsnackbar 24 points25 points26 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"As the Post points out, things have gotten much better for female staffers in Obama’s second term. There’s an even gender split among his top aides, and half of all White House departments are headed by women."

Meanwhile ~100,000,000 men who are not part of Obama's staff all agree that men's rights need to be an issue put in front of congress and nobody is listening.

[–]fac1 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If "gotten much better for female staffers" means "became much more controlled by feminists", this explains EVERYTHING about the insanity of the past 4 years.

[–]xNOM 17 points18 points19 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

LOL what about all of the other male staffers whose voices weren't heard? They weren't part of the all-important vagina-owning minority so they weren't invited.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Silly penis-person! You have no say ! Just do what your betters tell you to do and get back work ! Those tax bills aren't going to pay themselves you know.

[–]fengpi 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Listen to this, you god-damned mehnz: MEHNZ NEVER LISTEN!!!111!!onehundredeleven!!

Sister Ophelia Lunarblood, I pass the Talking-Stick to you...

[–]thrway_1000 31 points32 points33 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So... nagging?

How innovative! /s

[–]Lethn 21 points22 points23 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They're also painting the behaviour of literally a small fraction of extremely powerful men ( As they always do ) as 'all' men.

Feminists have no concept of what it's like to live in the real world.

[–]fengpi 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not nagging. NO. Bringing sweet, humble reason and wisdom to the carnival of patriarchal insanity which menaces the planet!111!one!

[–]User-31f64a4e 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's great. So, instead of supporting various ideas based on their merits, women in O'bama's cabinet are supporting ideas based when the originator has lady bits.
But that's not sexist, I'm sure.

-==-

Funny how they can't even imagine that what the women are saying is more frequently not up to snuff, isn't it?

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Requests anonymity so she can speak frankly about making sure she's given credit for her ideas I see.

Feminism in a nutshell: women should get all the credit for ideas that people like, but not be subject to criticism when people don't.

[–]Leinadro 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If thats what theu want to do fine. But they are demonizing men in order to make their case. "Its not that we want to do this its just that the big bad patriarchal men will steal all of our ideas if we dont!"

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

childish

[–]jslnk 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh FFS! They didn't discover some new female empowerment technique, they did what every junior staffer does to get around the senior staff.

In my last professional job, an hour before big meetings, I'd be stopping into various offices and saying, "You know, Ted's gonna oppose this so I really need you to back me up. And bring those Q4 sales reports in case we need them."

The headline should be, "Female Obama Staff Finally Realizes Staff Meetings Aren't Slumber Parties"

[–]atheist4thecause[S,🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Except they did it based on gender.

[–]thrway_1000 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

http://archive.is/9OaOd

[–]lostapwbm 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If women want to take credit for the "ideas" of the Obama administration, then they need their heads examined.

[–]Consilio_et_Animis 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Exactly!

“It’s fair to say that there was a lot of testosterone flowing in those early days. Now we have a little more estrogen that provides a counterbalance.”

Result: nothing gets done because no one is prepared to make any difficult decisions. Instead, Obama just makes endless "feel good" mushy speeches.

[–]dungone 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nothing got done because of the do-nothing Republican-controlled Congress.

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If this becomes a thing female staffers will get the repudiation of mindlessly parroting anything suggested by a woman which will make them far less valuable, meaning more men will be hired who are willing to give opinions based on evidence.

[–]atheist4thecause[S,🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree. Short-term gain for long-term loss. In fact, I'd be shocked if the men didn't pick up on it.

[–]ThePigmanAgain -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

and denied them the chance to claim the idea as their own.

I doubt that this kind of woman could come up with any idea worth stealing.

“It’s fair to say that there was a lot of testosterone flowing in those early days. Now we have a little more estrogen that provides a counterbalance.”

Great. Male reason is being counterbalanced by female idiocy. Utopia, here we come!

[+][deleted] -9 points-8 points-7 points 9 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Shaking my head SO hard at all the comments in this thread. You guys (i say with certainty) would all benefit from counting to ten before you hit 'save'. I honestly thought I was reading responses from /r/theredpill users based on what I saw here. It appears that most if not all of you have some deep-seeded loathing feelings for women in what regard or another.

Where's the empathy ? Where's the understanding ? The lot of you seem to take it very personally that women might be operating in politics in a way to affect social climate change (were women being heard in american politics 100 years ago? 50?). What have any of you been doing to make sure women's voice are heard more often? What have you done lately to make women feel included ?

I'd pay a serious dollar to see the age range of every comment in this thread. I can't believe dense fuckers like you guys vote.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

were women being heard in politics 100 years ago?

Yes. It was women's lobbying that led to alcohol being banned.

It was women's lobbying that led to the tender years doctrine.

It was women's lobbying that led to all of the preferential property entitlements that women received. (community property laws, life estates, freedom from obligations attached to their property, and eventually, alimony).

This idea that women had no voice in politics is insane. Male politicians AND female politicians both cater to the demands of women, and for the most part always have.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This idea that women had no voice in politics is insane.

Nevermind the fact that women make up the largest voting body in the country.

Women, who constitute more than half the population, have cast between four and seven million more votes than men in recent elections. In every presidential election since 1980, the proportion of eligible female adults who voted has exceeded the proportion of eligible male adults who voted

http://www.cawp.rutgers.edu/sites/default/files/resources/genderdiff.pdf

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But they're still a minority because we've rewritten the definition to mean "less than fifty percent of a population or women".

[–]dontpet 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Back, with your oppressive misogynistic statistics!

[–]fac1 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

were women being heard in american politics 100 years ago? 50?

If you're refering to women occupying political positions, 100 years ago there was not yet any reliable and mass-produced birth control, and there were no safe modern abortion procedures, and so any lady with a sex drive would by necessity have many children to look after. 50 years ago, birth control was just beginning to become socially acceptable, so same issue.

What have any of you been doing to make sure women's voice are heard more often? What have you done lately to make women feel included ?

What have you been doing to make sure women are saying things worth listening to more often? What have you done lately to make women choose to include themselves more often?

Nobody is ignoring things women say simply because they're women. Nobody is trying to keep women out of anything simply because they are women. The constant victim complex fostered by modern feminism is doing more harm to individual women then any perceived mistreatment ever could.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

you are talking gibberish, you literally browse reddit once every two months, voluntarily enter a sub you hate, and then get mad?

retard.

Where's the empathy ? Where's the understanding ?

Meanwhile, people like you mock the life span gap, sentencing gap, education gap, homelessness being 90% men. Your lack of self awareness is astounding

[–]ether_reddit 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's funny -- I was just saying to one of the big women's subs that /r/MensRights has been a more respectful place than their sub or the other pro-feminist one that recently started up.

The issue discussed in this article is legitimate. Women supporting each other in the workplace to make sure that they are not sidelined and their ideas are not stolen is a good one. We should all support all of our coworkers, men and women alike, to make sure that good ideas are heard and that someone else isn't taking credit where it isn't due.

There's lots of bogeymen in the feminist closet that we can pick on. This isn't it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I said nothing about the article

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

people like you

you know /nothing/ about me perhaps beyond my reddit comment history. I've mocked none of which things you've listed. Unfortunate for me I've /subscribed/ to /r/MensRights because I like to cultivate an understanding of the entire spectrum of gender social structuring.

You should ask your girlfriend how she might feel that you called someone on the internet (that you don't know) a retard, like, actual use of a slur with malice as your intent.

[–]Avambo 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You call us all "dense fuckers" and he called you a retard. You like to dish out insults but you can't take them yourself apparently.

Also, what have YOU done lately to make men feel included? What have YOU been doing to make men's voices heard more often?

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why would his gf have a say in this?

Do you tell feminists to ask their boyfriends if what they're saying is OK?

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Empathy isn't really involved here.

They're trying to deliberately create an echo chamber which demonstrable leads to bad policy.

[–]atheist4thecause[S,🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How about you stop scolding everyone from your moral high horse and state what you believe? First of all, you take it at face value that the women actually were discriminated against. I don't, and no evidence was given that they were. They collected together and decided themselves that they were going to side with certain opinions over others based on the gender of the person giving the opinion. You don't have a problem with women working against men based on their sex in a manner that silences them? Do you care about the individual at all?

[–]ThePigmanAgain -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Where's the empathy ? Where's the understanding ?

Oh, the feelz, the feelz.

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