Deluded men's rights activists are conspiracy nutjobs – don't believe a word they say

mochacola · 2016-05-23T11:15:29+00:00

I am (much) more likely to be the CEO of a company, an MP or at the top of any profession you care to name.

Tell that to a miner, a construction worker, whatever. You think they had a better chance than a 9-year old girl backed by her billionaire parents to "start a fashion-line business" before she hits teen?

Privilege had always been a socio-economic class issue and will always be.

Pariahdog119 · 2016-05-23T11:22:21+00:00

If you take any group of people, from slum dwellers in Kolkata to plutocrats on Wall Street, men have it better than women.

Any group of people

Inmates serving time because they lost their job and couldn't pay child support.

Any group of people

Victims of sex abuse and domestic violence seeking support.

Any group of people

Americans who want to vote without signing up to get shot at.

Any group of people

Parents in child custody hearings.

Any group of people

Those accused of sex crimes.

Any

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

KrisK_lvin · 2016-05-23T10:48:03+00:00

If you’re in a privileged position and you start moaning about how hard you have it, you look like a crybaby.

And yet on social media, I see this all the time, largely from groups and individuals who term themselves “Men’s Rights Activists”.

What’s the betting that after identifying MRAs, all the examples he gives are from Return of Kings, PUAs and TERPers?

Witness the misogynistic howls over the latest Ghostbusters film … As one men’s blogger wrote, …

Oh, look a link RoK … who saw that coming?

If you want more of this sort of stuff – and believe me there’s plenty – just go and find any online men’s rights discussion (Reddit's infamous The Red Pill forum is a good place to start). And dive in: the misogyny’s lovely at this time of year.

RoK, TERP … whatever next?

Of course, like all movements with unacceptable fringe members, MRAs tend to fall back on the “no true Scotsman” argument.

Christ.

Fuck it, I give up with all this whit.

They won, I surrender.

You can maybe, if you’re lucky and try hard enough, outwit a genius, but never a confederacy of dunces.

I’m going home to wait for the end.

orangorilla · 2016-05-23T11:05:56+00:00

Every day, I ask myself, “Am I the real victim here?”

Well, I've never called myself "the real victim" I don't think victimhood is binary.

Just kidding. I never ask myself this question.

Ah, that's how open minded our writer is. Three sentences in, and he's shown that he is unwilling to even grant a moment of thought to uncomfortable questions.

thrway_1000 · 2016-05-23T10:34:00+00:00

[Archive of Article Here.]

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Imnotmrabut · 2016-05-23T11:54:00+00:00

Fallacies - fallacies - fallacies.

I am a man. This means I’m likely .......

So here we have the male of the species, who is not Apexual claiming that all males are Apexual and therefore showing he is in fact Zetexual minus minus.

lporiginalg · 2016-05-23T13:58:00+00:00

TRP

return of kings

top kek

2016-05-23T10:53:43+00:00

Yet a few weeks ago

We need to fix our toxic rape laws before the names of more innocent men are trashed

Sounds like a trolling little bitch trying to stir up Reddit for page views. Not sure what more you'd expect from a "Gallerist and club owner".

aesopstortoise · 2016-05-23T10:59:58+00:00

My guess is that this is a warm up act for the shaming that will follow the Mens' Issues Conference in July.

jubbergun · 2016-05-23T12:10:51+00:00

I see the author's picture. My brain processes it and comes up with "soulless ginger Danny DeVito minus wit and charm."

RobDog101 · 2016-05-23T17:06:33+00:00

I live in a stable, rich, first world democracy and, even within this privileged setting, I have a lot of advantages. I was born into a nice, well-off family. I’m a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant. I have no disabilities, mental issues or even major allergies.

But most importantly, in my day-to-day life, I am a man.

(Emphasis mine.) And here, right off the bat, we see the delusion being put forth that maleness—alone—accounts for more "privilege" than living in a "stable, rich, first world democracy", being born into a "nice, well-off family", being a WASP, and lacking mental or physical disabilities: the implication here being that not being a man is worse than any disability in terms of hindring success and being associated with oppression.

...

And we're deluded conspiracy nuts.

How fucking cucked are men today?

Okay though, let's dig into this assertion a little more as though it were worth dignifying with counterarguments. Being a "White, Anglo-Saxon Protestant" is a privileged position—on what basis? What sorts of oppression or discrimination do non-whites face? Why, just compare rates of victimization from police brutality; rates of child-abuse victimization; murder rates; homelessness rates; likelihoods of being charged, of being prosecuted, of being convicted, of being sentenced, for a given crime; average sentences for a given crime, between whites and blacks. Obviously black "people" are at much greater risk across the board!

But wait! If you're a black woman you are doubly disadvantaged, right? How, then, do black women fare better by most (all?) these metrics, than white men?

Oh, we were looking at the picture wrong! We need to look at how being black negatively interacts with the oppression they face as women; obviously it would be wrongthink to look at how being a woman positively interacts with their experience of being an actual minority. And obviously being part of a group that on-average-earns-a-lower-hourly-wage-than-other-groups-due-primarily-to-personal-choices is an overwhelmingly greater hardship than is being much more likely to be murdered, homeless or imprisoned!

Fun how we can just change our definitions and standards for what constitutes privilege and oppression in order to keep the group we want at the center of our focus on so-called social justice. Isn't it?

TheDude41 · 2016-05-23T17:28:16+00:00

Anti-MRA males are chivalrous chest thumping orangutans trying to impress a gaggle of damseling shithead females.

Rockbottom503 · 2016-05-23T12:32:33+00:00

Well - the truth is always in the comments, or in this case the poll - when I clicked it 55% of the vote was positive towards MRAs 😊

Misogyny-not-a-crime · 2016-05-23T11:14:49+00:00

Misogyny is not a crime. I'm not ashamed to be privelidged. Put the two of them together and it spells :

I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHAT A FEMALE THINKS OF A MAN!

rossraskolnikov · 2016-05-23T11:02:18+00:00

I am out of the loop here. I thought The Telegraph was right-wing? Is this chivalrous Feminism?

AloysiusC · 2016-05-23T18:06:25+00:00

Please use archive links for this kind of crap.

I couldn't make it past the opening salvo cliche "I'm a man therefore privileged because I get paid more etc."

lostapwbm · 2016-05-23T18:45:31+00:00

If you want more of this sort of stuff – and believe me there’s plenty – just go and find any online men’s rights discussion (Reddit's infamous The Red Pill forum is a good place to start).

Why not just go to the subreddit actually entitled r/mensrights, you lame hack?

libbylibertarian · 2016-05-23T19:57:55+00:00

And you linked directly to this because why...you want to generate rage traffic for them?

2016-05-23T22:25:56+00:00

ARCHIVE THIS SHIT: http://archive.is/zr5Uk

Stop giving these piece of shit slanderers the clicks.

001100011 · 2016-05-23T23:10:35+00:00

This is not a man. He is a cuck.

Title	Deluded men's rights activists are conspiracy nutjobs – don't believe a word they say
Author	rossraskolnikov
Upvotes	52
Comments	45
Date	May 23, 2016 10:28 AM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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I don't think that word means what you think it means.