The main reason I hate The Good Men Project.

DougDante · 2016-05-10T12:11:56+00:00

They're science deniers.

From the FAQ:

After the Good Men Project ran an article reporting on the importance of fathers, well founded in scientific validity, it was quickly yanked, replaced by an apology.

Editor’s Note: We have removed the content of this article. The content that formerly appeared here did not reflect The Good Men Project’s views or position and rest assured that we will work to ensure that a mistake like this won’t happen again.

GMP: Fathers are not important: A Voice for Men

FuckURedditor · 2016-05-10T11:44:38+00:00

Everyone who spends more than five minutes there hates them. They're a sham org that pretends to speak to men, while really just saying the things feminists want men to hear.

redditorriot · 2016-05-10T11:31:02+00:00

Isn't the GMP a feminist project?

TedTheAtheist · 2016-05-10T13:40:35+00:00

"There’s a general rule I’ve learned that goes something like this: Any discussion about men which involves females or feminist males will eventually become a discussion about what women want from men."

I kinda feel sorry for Tom. I bought and read the original Good Men Project book, with the idea of either reviewing it or trashing it for The Spearhead. I ended up doing neither. I wasn’t sure how to feel about the book. It was good and bad. But that’s what I liked about it. There was honesty to it, and some moral ambivalence. It felt real — despite its potential to be preachy or “goody-goody”–and I couldn’t shake the sense that Tom (like Brett from Art of Manliness) was probably a pretty decent guy who was trying to do something good.

A hundred years ago, a successful guy like Tom would have started a boy’s club or a men’s club or some sort of benevolent association designed to help guys in trouble. Men and women alike would have approved and spoken of him as a “good man” for using his success to help support troubled men around him. But it was the 21st Century, so he thought, “Hey, I’ll start a web site where guys can tell stories that might help other guys cope with their own challenges.” A noble project. But you can’t do that today. You can’t have a space specifically for men unless women are called in as moderators.

... as Tom noted, the site has become increasingly feminist-oriented. Most of my friends who are interested in discussing masculinity and manhood take one look at the site and rattle off a string of insults.On an average day, there’s more content of interest to gender studies majors, feminists and gays than there is to average guys. Even the general interest stuff reeks of victimhood and the feminine message, “It’s OK to cry and be vulnerable.”

The Good Men Project reads like Feministing for men ... At least 60% of pop feminism is “cultural critique” explaining to men what they are doing wrong, and what feminists think those men should be doing instead, so that women can be happier or feel safer in some way. It’s not like feminists aren’t heard. One feminist recently wanted to talk about female stereotypes in video games, and supporters threw $160,000 at her. There are no male POV counterparts to Slate’s XX, or any of the very well-funded feminist media enterprises — unless you count cheesy metrosexual men’s magazines or trashy soft porn advertising spreads. There are few if any “mainstream,” content-driven, positive web sites about how men experience the world.

Tom, if you want to hear men’s stories, you have to make it OK for them to say what they actually feel, without worrying what women want to hear. That’s the only way you’re going to make the website feel as “real” as your book felt. That’s how you’re going to involve average guys, and not just the gender studies crowd. If you let the Noah Brands and Jesse Kornbluths and Hugo Schwyzers run things, if you let women dictate what kinds of male feelings are acceptable, you’re going to get a site that’s about what men think women want to hear — not a site about who men really are.

RobDog101 · 2016-05-10T13:48:13+00:00

Remember that article that that pregnant woman wrote for them about how she was afraid her unborn son would be a rapist?

Leinadro · 2016-05-10T13:39:26+00:00

Simply put the site overall is a feminist site that doesnt want to call itself a feminist site because they know that label is polarizing and will turn a lot of men, their supposed target audience, away from participating.

As others have said GMP is largely run by feminists for women and feminists about men.

Like clockwork about once a month they will post a few "why feminism is the only way to go" posts that are nothing more than ideological masturbation.

Trying to disprove their dogma will get your comment deleted because they cant handle even civil criticism.

For the most part the place is an echo chamber.

However there are a few occasional glimmers of hope. Namely Mark Green. Unlike most of the other writers there he wont hold that fact that you are not a feminist against you and knows how to handle criticism of feminism without going into Perpetual Victim mode.

Lobstermansunion · 2016-05-10T17:15:40+00:00

If you look at their stats the majority of people who visit the site are women. It's not a website designed for men. It's a website designed for women who want to feel self-superior and men who pee while sitting down because wifey says so.

Realmendontcare · 2016-05-10T11:24:01+00:00

Stop letting these stupid women confuse u!!! There telling u what women think a good man is. What women think a good man is and what men think a good man is are two completely different things. For example, men don't think about what it means to be a man today. We are just men. We don't need to look too deeply into it.

Ask a woman what it means to be a man, and I bet most of the list will be how real men cherish the virtue of the female and other hippy shit.

Just because women say real men act a certain way, doesn't mean men have to behave that way. The only time a man should alter his behavior is for work or for sex.

blueoak9 · 2016-05-10T17:00:26+00:00

"So over at GMP , a site that is supposed to be for men , run by a woman has a woman telling men what it means to be men."

Good Man Project, thy name is femsplaining!

TheDude41 · 2016-05-10T19:53:27+00:00

HotDealsInTexas · 2016-05-10T21:40:33+00:00

I call it "The White Knight Project."

I forget what made me start using that name, but I think it was an article that told men that when passing a woman on the sidewalk at night they should cross the street to avoid making her feel unsafe. I can't find that article, so it might have been another site that published it though.

But basically, GMP represents the worst of "Feminism for men." Half of what they publish is actually about women (how to make sure your evil masculine presence doesn't make women feel threatened, why you should defer to women, etc), and the rest is "all men's problems are their own fault, toxic masculinity, etc."

IronCanTaco · 2016-05-10T22:21:20+00:00

Like Bill Burr said: "It's like me writing a book '3rd trimester and what to expect'"

Vandechoz · 2016-05-11T02:53:17+00:00

It's run by a woman now? Still better than Noah Brand I'm sure.

halfofus · 2026-04-06T11:32:21+00:00

If you agree that men need women and women need men, in senior, sibling, partner, and junior roles, and that we have a natural healthy affection for people of the other gender, then you might like to collaborate with me in setting up the Cuddletime Club and getting it going.

At the Cuddletime Club, we foster gallantry. We tell each other what we do and what we think. When we learn of people of the other gender doing good things, communicating good things, and thinking good things we offer them "cuddletime" of direct interpersonal supportive contact - initially by email.

We may be kindly, parental, influential, and nurturant to the other- supplementing their self-discipline, mentoring them, widening their perceptions. .
We may be brother/sister, colleagues, partners, fellow students to each other.
We may be devoted, adoring and obedient to the other, enjoying freedom from the demands of our egos.

It's all OK, if it's consensual, fostering the other's deveopment, our own development and fostering the wider good.

I'm up to my eyes in writing reports for distressed people and helping relatives, and I'm all behind with garden work. I could do with some cuddletime from a gallant lady. I'm also up for providing cuddletime for a deserving lady or a needy lady.

Alick [email protected]

Title	The main reason I hate The Good Men Project.
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Date	May 10, 2016 11:12 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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