Hiring women over men 2:1 seen as Not Sexist

actingverystrangely · 2015-10-23T07:58:07+00:00

It seems that the word sexism is now defined as "disadvantageous to women". Winston Smith would be proud.

Drakaris · 2015-10-23T09:32:54+00:00

So these so called "researchers" literally see the numbers 2 women to 1 man hired based on their fucking genitals and decide that this is not sexism? Wonder what will happen if it was reverse... No, I know what will happen...

2015-10-23T08:16:46+00:00

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Lethn · 2015-10-23T08:27:41+00:00

These feminist based studies and media organisations desperately need to be called out on their shit, there's only so many times they can get away with being blatantly sexist.

xNOM · 2015-10-23T12:23:25+00:00

One of the primary reasons, according to them, is the fact that strong female role models and mentors are absent from their lives.

Oh god... when will otherwise competent scientists stop adding this religious, politically correct, unproven malarkey as an addendum to their research.

MasterZapple · 2015-10-23T08:41:58+00:00

MEANWHILE in fairy land: http://thinkprogress.org/health/2015/10/19/3713612/men-ignore-hard-evidence-of-gender-bias/

fullhalf · 2015-10-23T13:54:39+00:00

"One of the primary reasons, according to them, is the fact that strong female role models and mentors are absent from their lives."

BULLSHIT. The only female role model I had was Samantha Carter from Stargate SG-1. Any girl with access the SciFi channel has no excuse.

Not having enough women as role models... that's the excuse for everything. Same thing comes out when we talk about women in executive positions. But what if it's not because we aren't qualified. Maybe it's because we don't want executive roles. I can't fathom the idea of being in management. Right now I don't work any more hours in the pay period than I have to, and I can't think of any good reason why this should change. I would love to earn a shit ton more money, but being on the business side of things looks too life-consuming and stressful for the money to be worth it. I also don't have society telling me my life's worth is in my finances, so maybe we opt out because it's more of a choice for us.

evolutionof · 2015-10-23T13:47:29+00:00

they found no sexism in STEM faculty jobs as women tend to be employed for STEM tenure-track positions at a 2:1 ratio.

Just wow, they found no sexism because the unfairness was in the woman's favor. This is blatant sexism.

uncommonman · 2015-10-23T11:33:53+00:00

However, Ceci and Williams noted there are some cases where female candidates were four times as likely to be hired in STEM positions over equally-qualified male candidates. This led to their conclusion that gender bias did not cause the small number of women in STEM fields. They said the small representation of women in the sector was caused by their own reluctance to enter these fields. One of the primary reasons, according to them, is the fact that strong female role models and mentors are absent from their lives.

2015-10-23T12:08:00+00:00

Proof you can only be sexist against strong, powerful, vulnerable, at-risk women. Case closed, Your Honor.

qp0n · 2015-10-23T15:10:35+00:00

I bet these same people believe people of color cannot be racist.

Clockw0rk · 2015-10-23T15:27:00+00:00

They said the small representation of women in the sector was caused by their own reluctance to enter these fields.

Oh, you mean like literally everyone but entitled delusional twats have been saying since the fucking start?

Jesus fucking christ. It's called Lead By Example. If you want more representation in a field, you've got to lead the charge. No famous historical figure or influencer of great social change has ever been recognized by their side-line whinging.

MenandBoysareGood · 2015-10-23T10:24:39+00:00

There's no such thing as reverse sexism! /s

Unenjoyed · 2015-10-23T14:43:53+00:00

How did they define sexism. Not just hiring numbers, I hope.

Ovendice · 2015-10-23T16:39:13+00:00

I wouldn't worry too much about it. This article, like any MSM articles are always riddled with creepy half truths, hype and misinformation, which is all Feminism is: Fraud. Women’s Unemployment Surpasses Men’s: http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/04/womens-unemployment-surpasses-mens/?_r=0 Why Women Are Leaving the Workforce in Record Numbers: http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2013/04/17/Why-Women-Are-Leaving-the-Workforce-in-Record-Numbers

Not to mention the fact that women leave the workforce at twice the rate as men and more. And in STEM? HA You can bet money in Vegas that a female hired at a company doing any kind tech, science, engineering, etc. is going to last about 6 months and then they suddenly quit.

Women tend to be extremely flaky and unreliable in the workplace. I've see it every day. You say that's sexist? No, that's called a fact. If you want fiction, go watch a fucking movie.

All of our clients at my company are businesses in every industry and btw, we have sold and/or tried to sell to over 100 engineering firms and I have yet to meet even 1 female engineer.

And most companies still have male IT directors. I've only encountered about 5-10 female ones in the last 8 years. And I have yet to even encounter even one female CIO.

SlashSero · 2015-10-23T16:02:29+00:00

This data is over the entire STEM branch, which of some sectors like biology and medicine already have a rough 1:1 male to female ratio. If you start looking at areas like engineering and computer science the female hiring preference and PhD position preference goes way up because of the scarcity of such candidates. Companies are being pushed into hiring women to get tax benefits, so they start fighting for those special female employees while male employees are just a commodity. Another great example of feminist policy poised to disturb equal opportunity.

HardKase · 2015-10-23T18:22:47+00:00

Maybe they want to hire women over men because of the shortage of women in the field (due to their own choices mainly).

Once there is a more balanced split of women to men it should even out.

rafajafar · 2015-10-23T19:19:00+00:00

If you haven't seen this documentary yet, you really should: Part 1 - The Gender Equality Paradox .

TheMightyMeow · 2015-10-23T19:23:53+00:00

I hate to break it to you, but it is seen as sexist.

fullhalf · 2015-10-24T01:19:31+00:00

This led to their conclusion that gender bias did not cause the small number of women in STEM fields. They said the small representation of women in the sector was caused by their own reluctance to enter these fields. One of the primary reasons, according to them, is the fact that strong female role models and mentors are absent from their lives.

for god fucking sake. no matter what there has to be some kind of excuse where it is not just them. how bout they don't like technical subjects? hows that? fucking so god damn bullshit. i can't stand it.

autotldr · 2015-10-24T21:15:42+00:00

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 85%. (I'm a bot)

Researchers in a recent study found no sexism in STEM faculty positions as more women are now hired for STEM tenure-track jobs at a 2:1 ratio.

A recent study showed things are not at all bad for women aspiring for STEM faculty positions.

According to researchers Stephen Ceci and Wendy Williams, they found no sexism in STEM faculty jobs as women tend to be employed for STEM tenure-track positions at a 2:1 ratio.

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wanderer779 · 2015-10-23T15:50:27+00:00

I don't know how I feel about women in STEM but I'm a big believer in putting my stem in women. Badum-ching!

TibsChris · 2015-10-23T22:44:22+00:00

Researchers are wrong.

Imnotmrabut · 2015-10-23T12:21:58+00:00

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