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Mark Ruffalo tells people who aren't feminists to 'kiss my ass'

Sasha_

June 4, 2015
34 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/mark-ruffalo-tells-ignorant-people-who-arent-feminists-to-kiss-my-a-10291291.html
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Title Mark Ruffalo tells people who aren't feminists to 'kiss my ass'
Author

Sasha_

Upvotes 34
Comments 22
Date June 4, 2015 12:09 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/38g57l/mark_ruffalo_tells_people_who_arent_feminists_to/
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[–]CMOS222 22 points23 points24 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

"Listen, everybody, I'm telling all of you right now. Two thousand years ago, good Catholic pioneers like St. Peter and St. Anthony martyred themselves so that you, and everybody else in Western civilization, could have the freedom to believe in God. And if you are not Catholic, you refuse to follow the Catholic church and call yourself Catholic, you are spitting on all that they sacrificed and worked for."

"So I'm telling you right now.

If you believe in God and refuse to call yourself Catholic, you can kiss my ass."

[–]iamcrazyjoe 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Mark Ruffalo did not write this. His tumblr post is a quote from a feminist blogger named Libby Anne.

It is hilarious to me that a man is getting "credit" for this from feminists everywhere when it is a woman that wrote it.

[–]tygertiger 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What a good sock puppet.

[–]Macismyname 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There is only one proper response to this

"Edward Norton was a better Hulk and should have been in the Avengers."

[–]Frobenioid 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're insulting every woman who was forcibly restrained in a jail cell with a feeding tube down her throat for your right to vote, less than 100 years ago.

Women got the vote handed to them on a silver platter. Male suffrage was, and still is in some places, conditional on service in the military. A man has to agree to lay his life down in defense of his country if he wants the vote. In 1819, 15 men at a demonstration for male suffrage were gunned down. (The Peterloo Massacre.)

Indeed, before 1832 only 1 in 7 men could vote, in 1832 it became 1 in 5 and in 1884 it became 2 in 3. Men and women got universal suffrage at the same time, except women weren't beaten or shot in the process. Indeed, women would've gotten the vote the second they asked for it, were it not for the millions of women who were against female suffrage.

Just more feminist propaganda by yet another useful idiot.

Here's a great piece about male suffrage by Neil Lyndon for anyone who's interested.

[–]DougDante 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No comments, of course.

[–]SouthAfricanGiant 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He is a hippy looking for a cause. He jumps onto a cause like feminism and fracking and picks the side with he most publicity.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think these "I am not a feminist" women are against first and second wave feminism they are against radical third wave feminism that is destroying society and they don't want to be attached to that title. Sure give me the right to vote, education, the right to my body and equal human rights but I couldn't give a shit about "banning bossy" or "man-spreading." Calling yourself a feminist today is about female superiority not about equality between the genders so if you really care about equality you are an egalitarian not a feminist.

[–]philosarapter 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ya know it is possible to be both a feminist and a men's right's activist. The two are not mutually exclusive.

[–]Lurker_IV 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought.
Matsuo Basho

[–]tygertiger 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Tell me again why we're supposed to care what Hollywood movie stars who pretend to be comic book characters for a living think about social issues?

[–]Deefry 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Snapshot.

[–]Ravenwald 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

The article is a bit lean on actual information, citing that he's made arguments for feminism in the past and then citing a few statements. But, were I to go based on what I read, it seems like the guy has a pretty good bead on what feminism is supposed to be about.

I'm given cause to wonder if there's not a disconnect between people stating "I'm not a feminist" and what he perceives it as. As we well know, there's a division among feminists that, in its most basic form, takes the sides of actual feminism vs angry militant circlejerk feminism. I don't know where the "I'm not feminist" thing came from, or what its actual intention is, but that'd be the question I'd ask: Is it a result of a disagreement with the sensationalized form of feminism we all love to hate, or a disagreement with the feminism we can agree with (which is to say a push for actual equality).

Seems like this short article left me with far more questions than answers.

[–]Erociter 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism isn't and never was about equality. The people saying "I'm not a feminist" are the ones who thought it was an equality movement and realized it was nothing of the sort.

The driving force behind feminism is the same people who coined the terms mansplaining, manspreading, #killallmen and other wonderful feminist phrases.

They are also the ones who oppose fair treatment for men in colleges, and they're also the ones who oppose equal child custody for men.

These feminists created and propagated the Duluth Model of domestic violence, which is now the defacto model used in most domestic violence cases in North America.

This model has harmed men by assuming that domestic violence is solely a male driven action.

Effectively it refuses to admit that men can be abused in any serious numbers, and is often the reason why an abused man is arrested when there's a domestic disturbance.

The police, thanks to Duluth, simply assume he's to blame in any violent circumstance.

[+][deleted] -9 points-8 points-7 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I think the point is that either way it's ignorant to say so. The real feminists just want equality(even if we do step on a lot of men's toes in our excitement) and to say you aren't that is to say you think all women should be just barefoot and pregnant. The misconception that feminists are all assholes who hate men is ignorant. I would like to point out that feminism and the men's rights movement don't have to clash, I'm equally active in both movements.

[–]_pluto_ 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You need to read up on the history of feminism -- opposition to male DV shelters, opposition to male rape victims, opposition to shared parenting etc. The real feminist movement is toxic. Period. "stepping on men's toes?" Fuck you, degenerate.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't appreciate your attitude. Feminists, (like the mras) are not about screwing over others, we're about getting back what's been taken from us. And while we're attacking people based on others who "share" their ideals, how about we talk about Quinngate, in which hundreds of "menimists" harassed and destroyed the life of one woman because her ex was angry she cheated on him. I don't care that she did something fucked-up, they made that woman terrified for her life. But you wouldn't do that would you? Because I wouldn't, even if some of my "feminist" friends did the same to a man.

[–]Mrmojoman0 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

I would like to differentiate sjw and red pillers both from mras and feminists, but mras seem to completely reject any red pill affiliation while institutional feminism such as in popular academia seem to be 100% purely anti male in dogma. Actual school lessons saying that whites and men are all horrible and should apologize for existing and are by default oppressing everyone else no matter what they do.

While some, like Sommers are trying to save the feminist name, I think there would have to be a stronger academic rejection of current feminist dogma before I could completely stop seeing myself as anti feminist.

(not saying they are like nazis, just a semantic relation) It is like trying to be OK with political nazis who were just pro socialism and worker, not genocidal war mongers. It would take a lot of explaining that not all nazis supported or wanted what happened. As popular feminism now is largely anti male, and preaching the idealism with strong political and academic influence, it is difficult to justify the less crowded faction of people attempting to save the name when it creates such a strong conflict of idealism, unless you always specified egalitarian feminists from sjw/anti male feminists.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

that's my point though, it's not anti-male at all. Your idea of feminism is based on a pop-culture representation of feminism before it was considered respectable to be one. For example my grandmother is both a man-hater and anti-feminist. She believes all men are horrible dogs, but a woman's place is at home. Meanwhile my brother is a self-proclaimed feminist, while always pointing out other's sexism towards men.

[–]Mrmojoman0 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

again, i will be connecting the concept of a group which has done negative things with a negative view of that group. i am not saying feminists are at all on the same scale as nazis or anything.

" Your idea of feminism is based on a pop-culture representation of feminism before it was considered respectable to be one." nobody would consider this a reasonable excuse to call yourself a modern nazi, separate from the negative things that had been done by the group specifically in the past.

it's based on a very modern representation of feminism, and i think it's less respectable to be one than it has ever been in history.

what you are saying makes very little sense after my points..

like again, hearing " Your idea of nazi-ism is based on a pop-culture representation of nazi-ism before it was considered respectable to be one."

it was respectable to be a nazi at first. hitler was given universal praise, then "pop-culture" nazi-ism was based on the bad things their group ended up doing.

alternatively, in respect to your grandmother, you can have people who hate both nazi's and jews. this does not change what nazi's are, or how they are viewed for their historical actions.

why is my view of feminism negative? even when it was actually helpful to women, it was often based on misrepresentation of facts, and demonization of men.

like early suffragettes and feminists in britain who would give men a symbol to shame them if they were not going to war for their country, including non-landowning men who only got the right to vote 4 years later when women did.

or the ever-so famous valerie solanas who was part of the "radical feminists" that demonized men to the point on writing the S.C.U.M. manifesto.

but at the moment, the issue is general feminist views being blatantly anti-male, and the "radicals" of the group are the ones that are thoroughly egalitarian.

when it is being taught in schools academically, i think the "bad" feminism is not just "pop-culture", but generally a movement based around those anti-male principles.

i mean, the canadian association for equality can't even hold a group meeting in toronto without feminists trying to shut them up.

even between my last message and now

which has been going on for years

censorship which i haven't seen "men's rights" groups attempting so blatantly, despite the disagreements.

even when erin pizzey created women's shelters in england, there was no issues, but when she tried to create men's shelters, she was shunned and chased out of the country.

the teachings of feminism are currently "men with power are always the problem." and "women are always the victims of men" which i consider blatantly anti-male ideologies. current "popular" or "mainstream" feminism is what the vast majority of feminists are, and i don't think their actions or ideologies should be excused for the sake of small parties trying to save the feminist name as a positive.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is where we are going to have to disagree, I don't personally know any feminists who hate men, and you're talking about women in the early 1900's and the seventies, not now. While we're just starting to realize that there's an issue with men's rights, you can't just assume we don't care, because we do. Remember, there was a lot of resistance to feminism when it first started, and there's still going to be a lot of confusion and resistance to MRAs because we didn't even know you had a problem to begin with. I'm not even saying man-hating isn't much of a problem, I'm just saying most of it is un-intentional. What you're hearing is simply the loud minority, NOT the majority. Besides, anti-feminists tend to make us really miserable, seriously go to /r/feminism. It's full of jerks hating on women, but I don't judge you for being part of their movement. The problem with feminism isn't it's sexism, or even the appearance of sexism, it's that people try to judge us based on some random splinter group, and it IS a splinter group.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Patriarchy theory and your own clan that if you aren't a feminist you think women should be barefoot and pregnant, but yeah, no need to clash. Whatever you say.

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