Feminists want more blood from college kangaroo courts: "Fewer Than One-Third Of Campus Sexual Assault Cases Result In Expulsion"

PierceHarlan · 2014-12-29T17:03:46+00:00

I am at the point where I cringe whenever I see the name "Tyler Kingkade."

Here's the reality: you can't be punitive with a weak standard of proof and loose evidentiary safeguards. You can only be punitive when you know your decision is right and that the student is a rapist. Can't have it both ways, Tyler.

SporkTornado · 2014-12-29T17:48:14+00:00

Campus judiciary committees were never meant to handle serious felony offences like rape and sexual assault. Campus judiciary committees were setup to deal with stuff like cheating on an exam, or pissing in the dean's mailbox. They simply don't have the resources to handle serious felony offences. If someone was shot or stabbed on campus, there would not hold a judiciary committee to determine the guilt of the accused shooter/stabber. They would call the cops and let the criminal courts handle it. Even for a lesser felony such as if someone robbed the campus coffee shop, they would not hold a disciplinary committee, they would contact the cops and let the criminal courts handle it. I would love to pass a law that would force universities and colleges to report all cases of sexual assault to the police and let the criminal court system handle it.

2014-12-29T19:00:30+00:00

No mention of 1. the statistics that brough about those kangaroo courts were inflated and by now retracted.

the possibility that the accusers lied and that the men were in fact innocent.
the fact that the definition of rape has been watered down so much, depending on the case a slap on the wrist is more than appropriate.

Nomenimion · 2014-12-29T19:24:23+00:00

As usual, feminists pretend there is no such thing as false accusations. They make me sick.

BruceCampbell123 · 2014-12-29T17:29:41+00:00

Oh, so now that feminists don't have their "1 in 5" statistic anymore, they find and new one and statistics suddenly matter again.

Newbosterone · 2014-12-29T22:00:31+00:00

Ok, fine. If the accused is found not guilty, expel the accuser! 100% of cases will result in expulsion!

/s

Sasha_ · 2014-12-29T19:08:25+00:00

That headline really needs to read "Fewer than one-third of campus 'rape' cases are what any reasonable person would remotely understand as rape; and we're not even sure about most of them..."

bigAlittleA · 2014-12-29T19:25:16+00:00

It's simple. If a student is cheating on a test, let the school take care of it. If a student is suspected of rape, stealing a car or murder, let the police take care of it. One of the crazy things about all this: Everyone crying about the low conviction rate in courts are probably DISCOURAGING MORE women from coming forward. I would love to see colleges educate young woman on being in control of their sexuality and how to protect themselves. And also teach them the steps to convict the criminals that commit rape!

Endless_Summer · 2014-12-29T22:28:29+00:00

So by that title, are they saying that over 2/3rds of campus sexual assault cases are false accusations? Because that's how it reads.

ChaosOpen · 2014-12-29T22:33:43+00:00

I'd imagine the feminist "logic" went something like this:

1 in 4 women get raped on college campuses which means that 1 in 4 men will rape a woman while in college. Therefore: If 25% of men aren't being expelled, the patriarchy running the college is hiding the rape culture.

Remember kids: if reality doesn't match your preconceived notions, then change reality. -Feminism

pdg45acp · 2014-12-29T22:32:32+00:00

We need to be doing our own studies and publishing the results.

MonkeyCB · 2014-12-29T18:32:51+00:00

So does that mean we're going to stop sending rapists to prison?

vicariously__i · 2014-12-29T22:21:55+00:00

If it doesn't result in criminal prosecution, why would the university choose to take any action?

zombie2uRBX · 2014-12-29T23:10:34+00:00

Saying "1 third the cases" is bs. If 1 third the cases that were proven to be legitimate got expelled, that would be bad

ToxPhD · 2014-12-29T23:14:46+00:00

The best thing for the women and men living on college campuses is for all accusations of rape to be handled by the police responsible for that community. Colleges should be limited to handling nuisances like having a hot-plate in a dorm not serious crimes like arson. Streaking not stalking. Making too much noise not murder. Plagiarism not stealing a car.

Plagiarism is now relatively easy to handle thanks to search engines. Rape is much more difficult to deal with because of the difficulty in collecting evidence, the often limited memory of the event due to drugs and/or alcohol, and the small but still significant percentage of false accusations. All good reasons for involving the police.

The schools also need to be more responsible in how they secure their housing. Too much power is given to temporary employees on many college campuses. Giving RAs the keys to the dorm rooms of sleeping students is a terrible idea. Much better to have a full time employee with a much longer work history and much more to lose have that kind of access.

Finally, lets acknowledge that a small but still real percentage of the rapes on campus happen to men. Frankly if we all spent more time thinking about how the system should be set-up to handle same sex sexual assault fairly and effectively we could become much better at handling the far more common sexual assault of women by men.

Goat-headed-boy · 2014-12-30T12:24:13+00:00

If they want someone to thank, they might send their praise to the Association for Student Conduct Administration for telling universities across the nation not to be "punitive" when handling campus rape.

The ASCA is a for profit organization, as far as I can tell from their website. Their 'governing documents' are available to members only.

After being directed to a pdf for their history, the pdf links to http://www.theasca.org/history/ for a full history, a page that comes back as not found and redirects you back to the original ASCA site. Talk about circlejerk.

This page on their site: "Legislative Updates", http://www.theasca.org/legislative links directly to the "Dear Colleague Letter" on the DoE website; a telling link as to the true purpose of this organization.

Just as telling is this "journalist's" repeated quotes and references to the ASCA as if they were a benchmark of college data collection or enforcement of Title IX champions. From the ASCA Update page:

Recently, ASCA has been the subject of media attention surrounding sexual assault. Let us be clear, sexual assault on campus is criminal and should absolutely be treated as such. We highly encourage victims/survivors to report these offenses to local law enforcement. Within the campus community, we all have an obligation to create a safe campus environment where students are held accountable for their actions and behaviors, and know that there are times, like the perpetration of a sexual assault and other violent acts, that necessitate the separation of a student from the respective institution. This has been, is, and will be our Association stance.

You too can become a Gold Member for just $7500.00. Yikes.

Funcuz · 2014-12-30T13:17:51+00:00

I wonder if it's ever occurred to them that if they wanted a higher rate of expulsion then maybe they need to remind people that poor decisions don't equate to rape.

Endless_Summer · 2014-12-29T16:50:58+00:00

Most people, most feminists included, would like the police to deal with investigations not fucking kangaroo courts

Title	Feminists want more blood from college kangaroo courts: "Fewer Than One-Third Of Campus Sexual Assault Cases Result In Expulsion"
Author	AndrewLevin
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Date	December 29, 2014 4:43 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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