Do you guys think redpillers lack morals?

Inareskai · 2022-09-03T08:18:56+00:00

Not necessarily.

I think they lack empathy, which means their morals/drive can be cruel and self-serving (which often backfires for them).

sabiinvesting · 2022-09-03T06:47:13+00:00

I don’t necessarily think the first thing they lack is morals. It probably is a close second/third, but I think they lack maturity and nuisance.

alexbrove · 2022-09-03T11:31:15+00:00

Yes. The leaders definitely lack morals.

But the followers are mostly just brainwashed and that's why all their morals are gone.

If they got out of Red pill, and got some decent therapy, I'd like to believe that most of them would be quite normal and have a good sense of right and wrong.

lemoncurdmacaron · 2022-09-03T07:25:28+00:00

Yes. Morals, maturity, nuanced thinking.

sicktwistedtojess · 2022-09-03T11:33:51+00:00

Yeah that's the whole point

Naus1987 · 2022-09-03T12:28:29+00:00

I like ethics more than morals, but yeah, I think they lack a fundamental understanding of what is right and wrong. But to be fair, they don’t even teach ethics in American grade schools. Ethics is a college level program. And it’s optional!

I majored in ethics, so I’m used to seeing people being terrible at them. But it is even more apparent within certain aspects of red pill. The whole lying and pick-up artist stuff is all incredibly unethical. So is any form of shaming.

And yet every other day I see some guy claiming they’ve “seen the light,” and leaving the red pill admitting they have done terribly evil things, lol. I’m glad they’re making a change, but they just have no grasp on ethics.

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As a side note, I came to red pill, more specifically, MGTOW, because I originally thought it was an ethical “go your own way,” type or mentality that was different than the traditional get married mentality. Boy was I wrong!

It’s almost important to acknowledge that while a lot of red pill ideologies are wrong, they do point out a lot of truthfully unethical actions within women as well. And that truth is what a lot of guys use to justify fighting fire with fire. If she’s evil, then I’ll be evil!

And that’s a fundamentally bad take to have. And probably one of the most ironic parts of red pill. Being a manly-man isn’t about petty retribution, but rather rising above, and being a noble person despite your hardships. Not being broken by them.

It would be amazing how much of a difference could be done if we just taught ethics in school. Hell, I’d even challenge anyone who made it this far to at least Google the basics.

theautumnalequinox · 2022-09-03T15:28:07+00:00

I think the opposite is true, sadly. I think they are desperate for morals and they cling so heavily to the wrong ones that they lose their empathy. It's terrifying. Most of these guys get into RP young, while their brains are still maturing. I think they are absolutely desperate for anyone to listen. Guys like Andrew Tate capitalize on the fact that men aren't heard, and take advantage of them (with some small small small grains of truth that appeal to broken people). It's no different than other machines (certain denominations in the church, cults, etc.). That's why guys that get free from this stuff have to start writing content and being an example of life beyond the RP. I am a 31-year-old woman who dated a guy that was RP and it was the most traumatic experience of my life (thus my finding this board). He was rigid in his "truths," -- if only they'd been the right truths.

5mandunkarmy · 2022-09-03T03:33:03+00:00

very simple, they have a brutal soul which is only based on logic and 'facts' while in reality many more things come into play...

It is like they analyse every situation in 1D instead of 3D, so taking any moral advice from a redpiller should be avoided.

Nightchanger · 2022-09-03T15:37:11+00:00

They make claims and theories of morality. So they don't lack it per se. The issue is that they use anecdotes and data (which shouldn't touch it) to give negative charectaristics of opponents. Every women is a AWALT, guys that don't follow us are blue pilled, skeptics are in a rage phase. Making it easier to justify any form of denial or wrong doing.

the-aids-bregade · 2022-09-03T12:21:26+00:00

people would probably put me in the redpill box but I have morals

Rook_Cross · 2022-09-04T18:19:21+00:00

Yes. Morality is objective and what they are doing is not in line with that morality. I guess you could still say they have "morals", just incorrect ones. But are they without proper morals in regards to at least male female relationships, then yes.

the-aids-bregade · 2022-09-03T12:20:07+00:00

people would probably put me in the redpill box but I have morals

Title	Do you guys think redpillers lack morals?
Author	Pension-North
Upvotes	12
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Date	September 3, 2022 2:51 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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