Redpill isn't actually the issue

xvszero · 2025-04-24T10:06:16+00:00

I mean the misogyny is a huge part of it, and you can't just be like oh yeah the misogyny, but.

Beyond that it doesn't make much sense to say you personally tested things because the claims are usually broad claims about women in general. That would require broad research to support, not personal anecdotes.

thebreadierpitt · 2025-04-24T10:31:44+00:00

I tried applying some ideas suggested in red pill content—specifically the ones I considered healthy and reasonable. And women actually responded in the way those ideas predicted. I did the same with the blue pill mindset, and it didn’t work the same way.

Could you give us some concrete examples for both?

DenverLabRat · 2025-04-24T11:42:38+00:00

I did the same with the blue pill mindset, and it didn’t work the same way

What do you consider "the blue pill mindset"?

tomowudi · 2025-04-24T11:41:28+00:00

Redpill is a collection of manipulation techniques designed to prey on insecurities. It's not surprising that they will work. But they don't result in a healthy relationship because manipulation is not compatible with a healthy relationship.

So red pill techniques do not work for healthy relationships with healthy partners.

Material-Bus1896 · 2025-04-24T14:27:56+00:00

Every great lie contains a grain of truth

ComplexAttitude4Lyfe · 2025-04-24T12:36:52+00:00

My first question would be- 'What is your measure of success?"

Most Red Pill doctrine I've seen aren't about building a relationship. Some will say they are, but many Red Pill channels are about male dominance and "game".

So if you used Red Pill to attract attention with the intention of getting sex, sure, I bet it worked.

If it is only to see if women will pay attention, I'm sure you caught their attention. What kind of attention and what would it lead to?

Blue Pill- same thing.

Neither is a healthy view of relationships. There's too much focus on pitting the genders against each other and what each will take from the other (he wants sex, she wants money) when neither group is the monolith the pills make them out to be.

meleyys · 2025-04-24T17:57:03+00:00

I mean. It's not a coincidence that so many mass shooters subscribe to TRP and adjacent ideologies.

Personal_Dirt3089 · 2025-04-25T23:22:51+00:00

I see the salespitch strategy framing everything else as "the blue pill" (as if to make "the red pill" seem like equil merit instead of internet bullshit) umbrella, combined with the vague JAQing off.

Throwawayuser1134 · 2025-04-27T02:56:47+00:00

Okay. I'll do my best to answer.

I want to note that you were pretty vague in what you applied as part of Redpill and Bluepill ideas, so it's hard to come up with a definite way to respond to your query.

I will say that the Bluepill also isn't the "right" path, and shouldn't be what should be strived for either. I think a lot of people here can agree on that.

The issues of Redpill isn't the results you get, but the damaging mindset and views it gives women.

Perhaps what you described is just good social skills, or game. But it's important to differentiate game from the Red Pill. Having game is not the same thing as being a redpiller, but being in the Redpill means the constant advocacy to learn game under a Redpill lense.

The fundamental concepts that are to Redpill largely center around manipulation and coercion, and that's why Redpill is seen as an issue.

There are ways to flirt with women or attract them, ways that don't have to change your entire perspective on women.

There is something to take from both the Redpill and BluePill. As for the latter, yes, respect is something we all deserve as well as basic human decency. At the same time, for the former, yes, men and women aren't exactly the same, and you do have to be attractive to attract women. That means good hygiene, fashion and care for yourself, as well as a proper mindset. You can't be fat and smell bad and expect to attract women.

Reno0vacio · 2025-11-17T12:23:07+00:00

I see a lot of people dont even know what "red pill" is, or what it's core purpose.

Sufficient_Ferret367 · 2025-04-24T11:46:31+00:00

Redpill- egoistic Bluepil- fantasy

Title	Redpill isn't actually the issue
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Date	April 24, 2025 9:57 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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