what do you think about pick up artists

Repemptionhappens · 2024-02-21T18:34:53+00:00

Profoundly unloving and unloved. Sexually predatory. Emotionally mentally and spiritually abusive.

creamerfam5 · 2024-02-21T18:38:39+00:00

I feel kinda bad for them because it's likely they have been conned by marketing that exploits them. And also upset that they are making a choice to relate to people in an emotionally manipulative and destructive way. So, ambivalent is the way I would say I feel about them.

oldcousingreg · 2024-02-21T18:37:50+00:00

Grift

Stargazer1919 · 2024-02-21T18:19:47+00:00

Barf.

mikey_weasel · 2024-02-21T19:56:22+00:00

People who take the courses? I like to assume they are inexperienced and looking for a way to make up for that inexperience. And that they are being taken advantage of by the people offering the course. I also like to hope that such folks might be able to engage with discussion of how to approach relationships in a healthier way.

xvszero · 2024-02-21T22:07:46+00:00

I don't really think about them.

eatfleshdrinkblood · 2024-02-22T03:50:50+00:00

PUA, is one huge giant scam. I could even see that it was back in 2005,when it blew up when o was in the eighth grade. As for the guys that take the courses, I pity them for blowing there hard earned money and stuff that doesn’t work.

Evening_Crew_2873 · 2024-02-22T08:59:09+00:00

As someone who used to be a member of the community and did three courses. All the guys I met were nice people who just wanted to be learn how to be better men. I have life long friendships from this community.

But I won't deny that there are some darker spectators in the online side of things. But you can't really regulate the internet or who goes to what forums, so without strict moderation, the nutters and haters will infest

You don't really meet those oddballs at events because they would never pay money for events....most of them don't even want help at all tbh.

flipsidetroll · 2024-02-21T19:36:41+00:00

I don’t think they are bad people. They are just inexperienced and the sellers take advantage of them. But of course, how does anyone know that the pua’s that sell their shit are actually successful beyond what they tell you? So the very fact that men believe them, makes those men very naive.

sss133 · 2024-02-21T21:21:01+00:00

I remember Roush V came out and said he picked up 20 girls in a year. It was his task to try everyday for a year. If you pay to get advice from a guy with a 20 out of 365 strike rate than you’re an idiot.

mammajess · 2024-02-21T19:34:26+00:00

Some are just ridiculous grifters, and some are teaching skills in rape.

Polish_Girlz · 2024-02-25T22:09:41+00:00

I appreciate the support from men in here who are denouncing these people. <3

Personal_Dirt3089 · 2024-02-27T21:10:55+00:00

I encountered a lot of them during my nightclub days, and it was a high time of them. They were awkward guys that had a lot of family money (the classes are expensive) and awkwardness. Many of these guys, mostly early 20s, had speech impediments and you can spot them a mile away, giving long unnatural memorized monologues.

The truth is that they could have used some social coaching of some sort, maybe speech therapy, something, but PUA stuff used to market like crazy, and the internet never really questioned if PUA stuff even works (it doesn't). Even know, if you google "how to talk to women", the results are likely nuts or grifts.

Chatting with some of these guys out of curiousity, they do in fact get comission for people they recruit (the classes cost over $1000).

I would feel sorry for these guys, but they are very annoying, especially to guys that are with women. You see, they are taught that being annoying and snooty to other men, and constantly trying to interrupt other men, makes a guy "alpha", and will make women suddenly want the PUA. They literally throw their bodies between couples that are talking, dancing, or having any interaction, then go into a weird long memorized dialogue.

These days, PUAs are mostly gone, replaced by angrier knockoffs with a more overt "us vs them" mindset such as redpill.

legend503 · 2024-02-22T10:09:02+00:00

It's the sad reality of men.

We don't have the luxury of everybody coming to us. Men have to work.

Think about all the introverts who never learned the social game. Or all the diagnosed people who are socially awkward. Are they gonna be alone forever or learn to socialize?

Women don't have to do anything but exist to be noticed and liked. And they have all the magazines talking about how to get a man, get him addicted, manifested Yada Yada.

I don't like puas as a thing. But it's a necessity in the society we live in.

Everybody saying no have no understanding of what some people go through. Learn some empathy and put yourself in others shoes.

Women will rarely know the loneliness of an average man until they are around 70

AssistTemporary8422 · 2024-02-22T01:12:10+00:00

The guys who take the pickup artist courses aren't pickup artists, they are incels who are being taken advantage of. They think that they can fix all their dating problems in a weekend of awkwardly asking out a few dozen strangers.

Toonz-kun · 2024-02-22T23:02:23+00:00

Some of the problems with taking such courses, is that it can quickly turn the idea of dating into something far more difficult than it is. I've been there, and from my own experience, I noticed that I did and said things that were "out of character", and truthfully did not feel comfortable in. I questioned the amount of success following it all, and concluded that the reason it didn't feel right for me, was because it hindered my authenticity.

Constantly thinking about the right thing to say or do based on everything you've been taught, in fear of rejection, puts pressure when communicating with women. You won't feel relaxed, at all. On top of that, the PUA/Dating Coach will usually tell you that it's always on you when you haven't met a certain goal (yet).

Just a few months now, but I've taken my distance from such coaches and content, as I want to rely on just being authentic in who I am, what I say, feel, and what I'm looking for. It all starts with finding value in who you really are, because you do have value as an individual, and it has nothing to do with anything materialistically.

Title	what do you think about pick up artists
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