Why does every keep recommending therapy?

Fluorenone · 2020-04-01T13:30:22+00:00

This is a bit of an ignorant post IMO. There are many different modalities and therapies that can be used in psychotherapy.

There’s not just one approach, even though CBT is the most common nowadays. Funnily enough, CBT is actually pretty great for ex-redpill because its aim is to mitigate cognitive distortions and unhealthy biases.

Core identity can be helped in therapy too.

starspider · 2020-04-01T13:16:28+00:00

Therapy doesn't fix you.

Therapy helps you build the toolkit to fix yourself. It helps you gain insight into why you do or think what you do.

And a therapist can't help you if you lie to them or just gloss over shitty things or just don't tell them. You have to lean into it.

Scott24z · 2020-04-01T12:34:08+00:00

Yes, you’re right in sensing that therapy wouldn’t really get to the core of the problems you think you have. It’s because a profound inner transformation must take place, and no one is responsible for it but you. Read the power of now

quickbucket · 2020-04-01T15:54:53+00:00

What is it about gender that you're struggling with? Therapy isn't going to change the fact that men and women are treated differently by a lot of people, but it can help you with your identity and it can help you to see more clearly, to value yourself, and attract people who will respect you. Have you ever heard the expression “If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole.”? I think that's something that almost every person who gets pulled into TRP needs to hear. Life isn't fair. It isn't easy. But if you go around convinced it's uniquely unfair to you, and you're going around looking for an easy fix, then you're going to have a bad time.

Scott24z · 2020-04-01T12:40:10+00:00

It’s not a fixer upper, bit people might think that if they only skim the pages and treat it as a self help book. If you TRULY understand what eckhart is talking about, all of your “problems” will dissolve, even the ones with women. You may come to the realization, like I did, that I was basing my inner peace on whether I was having sex with loads of women, and why that didn’t really matter the way I thought it did before. The moment we become truly conscious of the repetitive thoughts in our head that ruin our days, they weaken and eventually stop.

iostefini · 2020-04-01T14:38:08+00:00

I think where therapy can help you is by helping you explore why you think everyone is going to disrespect you and treat you without decency, and maybe give you tools to manage that sort of discrimination when you do come across it without becoming discriminatory yourself in response.

Therapy isn't going to change the world you live in but it can help you find parts of it that you didn't realise existed before, and it can help you find the parts of the world that you LIKE instead of the parts that make you feel worse.

It can also help you learn more about yourself, which is valuable in working out which parts of yourself you want to make positive changes to and why.

If you don't want therapy, don't do it, but keep working on self-improvement. Think about who you want to be and act in ways that will help you achieve it.

And keep away from TRP. Do you want to be a man who hates women? Do you want to be a man that lives in a constant battle between genders? TRP sets you up to live that way. It's not a path to happiness. It's a path to bitterness and a "take what you can get no matter who you hurt" attitude that destroys your kindness and compassion and integrity and destroys any relationships you might have. It's tempting to go that way, because you met a woman who treated you badly and you want to avoid getting hurt again, but... in the end you'll just be sad and lonely and bitter.

likethemonkey · 2020-04-01T15:01:03+00:00

What types of therapy and how many sessions/what amount of time did you spend on each?

I've done 2+ years of group therapy. Around 3 years of talk therapy. My wife and I have done about 1 year of combined couples therapy. I have now been doing about 2 years of somatic therapy with a focus on orgone therapy.

Therapy has been one of the best things in my life and I give it credit for helping me past the patterns and habits that limited my thinking about how I felt about others.

I am not conventionally attractive, and scrawny/small for my age/gender, and come from an blue-collar immigrant family. I advanced myself to a point where I am now coaching others on their dating lives.

Your issues are not isolated, this isn't like fixing a weird noise in your car. Your thoughts are much more interconnected and people are responding/attracted to you based on your actions -- which are influenced by your thoughts. So: working on your inner-self = working on your thoughts = working on your actions = working on how others perceive you.

So what kind of therapy have you done and for how long?

superstar94b · 2020-04-01T15:56:16+00:00

Therapy does not fix your thinking. Therapy gives you the tools to fix TO FIX YOUR THINKING YOURSELF. You can use those insights to understand the world, gender, yourself and educate yourself. That's when you will find strength. Therapy isn't a quick solution to these problems, but it is a good FIRST step. There are no shortcuts.

FixinThePlanet · 2020-04-01T16:37:00+00:00

We may have advanced our social understanding and tolerance towards race and religion

Are you serious

Inareskai · 2020-04-01T16:41:24+00:00

I think therapy would be good for you because you're obviously very hung up on a lot of these issues. Having someone who is dedicated to helping you manage how you're feeling and develop strategies to manage your interactions with the rest of the world sounds very helpful for you.

IHaveABigDuvet · 2020-04-26T18:26:10+00:00

Not true.

Many men and young boyd attracted to the red pill are poorly socially adjusted, have issues with self worth, self image, self esteem and a plethora of insecurities.

This makes them well primed for many manosphere idealogies.

Therapy would help target the root causes that encourage men to turn to the red pill in the first place, and therapy can decondition, and address the unconcious and subconcious beliefs that have been acquired during their time in the manosphere.

For example:

Ill have to return to world that sees me as dangerous or something stupid.

This is an illogical thought. Do you think that every person you come across thinks your dangerous or stupid? Im sure that you live in a country in which people are incarcerated for being dangerous. Are you in prison at the minute?

How exactly would a person be able to tell someone else is stupid from just looking at them? Do you want to hear something that might be a shock; the average person isnt thinking about whether you are dangerous or stupid. In fact, the average person isnt thinking of you at all. You are no to them and they are no one to you.

This is why people recommend therapy; some of your more irrational thoughts can be challenged by a therapist who will be able to give you a more balanced perspective on life.

Title	Why does every keep recommending therapy?
Author	defo18
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Date	April 1, 2020 12:29 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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