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A study found that those working in creative industries are 3 x more likely to suffer from mental illness, with 60% of participants reporting suicidal thoughts. Is this why men have targeted their brainwashing at liberal feminists in creative industries?

modernmedusaa

September 28, 2021
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Title A study found that those working in creative industries are 3 x more likely to suffer from mental illness, with 60% of participants reporting suicidal thoughts. Is this why men have targeted their brainwashing at liberal feminists in creative industries?
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modernmedusaa

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Date September 28, 2021 6:05 PM UTC
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[–]NoMoreLVMFDS Newbie 130 points131 points132 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

As a woman in the creative fields I’d put down a lot of it to a connection of creativity with bad mental health being down to a sensitive temperament, as well as the increasingly low pay and high living costs putting pressure on everyone. I’d also add that there are plenty of “girlbosses” working in very corporate fields and saying the exact same stuff on their social media platforms. Lib feminism has infiltrated all parts of society and I think it’s popularity is because it doesn’t pose a threat to the patriarchy as it doesn’t require men to change, so Lib fems are the ones being promoted and funded, in creative fields or corporate ones.

[–]modernmedusaaRuthless Strategist[S] 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I have to say tho, going to a college full of lib fems the most vocal noisy and oppressive ones were art students . Taking a lot of drugs. And censoring any speakers from challenging them.

Which is censorship & totalitarianism- the anti theory to democracy. The very thing they’re supposedly against.

I almost went into art myself. But was glad I didn’t.

I think the problem with folks in the creative industries is there’s this pressure to ‘break taboos’ & use shock value to get exposure.

A lot consider themselves outsiders and that can often breed ‘tortured artist’ narcissism. That they’re too radical to be understood.

It’s a competitive industry & some go overboard with that.

They think by glorifying something taboo, they’re automatically intelligent or revolutionary.

Whilst breaking taboos isn’t always a bad thing - like tackling topics such as family sex abuse for example….it can often lead into ‘eternal teenage rebellion’ territory quite fast.

And if they come from privileged backgrounds, they tend to go off on a tangent with themselves. They start speaking on behalf of working class women thinking they’re doing a good deed.

And so lib fems get supply from being seen as social justice warriors and breaking any taboo possible.

But some things are kept taboo because they are morally wrong and make society more sick and unstable.

Child pornography for example, which you could argue hasn’t been taboo for a while. In fact it’s pretty widely celebrated by men. That doesn’t make it right.

Despite this it’s still illegal to have sex with minors. It is still rightfully shamed by society.

And there are strong links between men who consume degenerate child abuse porn and men who go onto to commit sexual offences against minors.

Britain is now the 3rd largest consumer of live-streamed child sex abuse worldwide. Where British men pay foreigners to steal and sexually abuse children.

Which is shameful. And it’s quite obvious the rise in pedophilia in Britain is linked to those porn trends.

Yet for some reason we allow that content to remain online. We allow videos of ‘barely legal teens’ being aggressively choked by men. Because it serves male fantasies.

Lib fems are totally tone deaf to cause and effect. It’s like they live in an alternate circus on planet Mars.

Maybe they really do live in an alternate planet in their head. Due to the mushrooms they’re taking in college and their class privilege blinding them some more, putting themselves on false undeserved pedestals.

Most the liberal feminists at my college were wealthy art students who had lived very cushioned lives….not used to being confronted, or growing up around dangerous men.

And many of them would come out with anti-feminist statements off record. Such as gloating about having sex with married men. Pick me’s using lib fem as cover.

They base everything on theory, feelings, fantasies and fist pumping rebellion. But the cold crime stats, deaths and research don’t lie.

Some things are shamed and kept taboo for good reason- sex work being highly dangerous for example.

Sex workers are at higher risk of being murdered or assaulted and a large number of sex workers have been sexually assaulted or abused as a child. That’s what the research tells us.

That isn’t a sound reason to ‘normalise sex work’ but it is according to lib fem logic. Because sex work is seen as taboo. And anything taboo must be normalised in their head. It’s deliberately taboo. Because it’s dangerous and sexist.

In fact trying to normalise sex work is just a convenient way of working around the idea that men are entitled to buy women and use them as disposable sex objects. They are entitled to rape them in exchange for money.

The topic of ‘consent’ becomes very muddy when you consider the fact that many porn stars are forced into sex acts they don’t want to do. But do it because of a lack of money. That makes it exploitation.

Or the fact many vulnerable girls from poor or abusive homes are groomed into sex work, drugged and sold on. Many of them do as they’re instructed because their pimp might kill them otherwise. When people come check on them they may claim they’re fine so the pimp doesn’t kill them.

Sex work will never be free of coercion in that regard. It will always be a dangerous trade because of the men it attracts. And the way they view women, as subhuman sex objects here to serve them.

And we’ve already heard what some of these male sex buyers think of the prostitutes they use. Most are porn sick rejected misogynists and enjoy the fantasy of forcing a woman to have sex with them. They enjoy degrading them. Again, a fantasy that stems from misogyny and porn.

It’s ignorant to the power structures that have created that ‘demand’ aka misogyny and porn. Misogyny and porn has also informed liberal feminist ‘choices’ & what is seen as sexy / cool.

Liberal feminism has stooped so low that it’s now throwing a mic to any old bimbo reality tv star like Megan Barton Hanson who has a sex column in Vice now & sells pictures of her breasts for $10 on Only Fans.

What does she know about women’s history or feminism? She’s famous for being on Love Island. That’s it. She’s a clueless pick me using liberal feminism as cover.

How the hell does this CHALLENGE misogyny exactly? How is this a role model for young girls? It’s weakening women’s status & fuelling the problem.

How can you realistically tackle rape culture and men objectifying women…..if you’re going to normalise men buying women for sex?? It’s just fuelling the root of the problem.

Because once sex work is normalised then ordinary women are put at increased risk of being illegally sex trafficked and expected to ‘compete’ with sex workers, making men even more entitled and pushy than before.

Anyway I’m rambling but there’s some food for thought in that article, maybe not as they intended.

[–]throwaway-fdsFDS Newbie 64 points65 points66 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Interestinggggg thread. Bouncing off of another commentor (and basically saying the same thing she said) liberal feminism is infesting us at both a creative and corporate level. It's the "safe" feminism that doesn't allow men to reflect on their wrongdoings so that's going to be the most popular kind.

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The views I'm seeing from women over mental health lately in this sub is kind of odd. I hope another commenter can put it into words for me.

[–]HereForTheFreeFoodOkFDS Newbie 70 points71 points72 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

We need to remove the word 'feminism' from 'liberal feminism'

I propose 'liberal patriarchy'

Traditionally - patriarchy's are very conservative ( HI AFGHANISTAN!) so let's sully the word 'patriarchy' by softening it.

And after all, liberal feminism liberal patriarchy upholds male power and dominance structures.

[–]blueboobs-FDS Disciple 33 points34 points35 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Wooooaahhh this is a phenomenal and astute suggestion..

[–]HereForTheFreeFoodOkFDS Newbie 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You think so? Thanks I am flattered! I tapped it out this morning before my coffee and still in a pyjama haze. Surprised it resonated.

Thanks :)

[–]blueboobs-FDS Disciple 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think it clarifies and distills in two words all we’ve been saying who liberal feminists really are. They absolutely 100% still want men in charge of them they just prefer men do it more liberally.

[–]HereForTheFreeFoodOkFDS Newbie 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thank you for your kind words. They really are energising! I am dealing with so much poop in real life that hearing supportive words, about my thoughts, is like a harmonic angel singing.

Thank you kind internet stranger xox

[–]modernmedusaaRuthless Strategist[S] 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes I totally agree with you sister, excellent idea

From now on we will address it as ‘liberal patriarchy’ because many people get confused and think we’re just hating on any feminists who also vote liberal, which isn’t the case.

Liberal feminism is a select, post modern branch of feminism infiltrated by men and male agendas.

Which is why we don’t include men in our feminism. Because the obvious entails.

I think that’s deliberate on men’s part. They love confusing word salad and gaslighting after all.

[–]HereForTheFreeFoodOkFDS Newbie 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Agreed. We need to claw back the word 'feminism' from the oppressor class.

We need to reclaim that word. It has been highjacked, stolen and exploited.

(highjacked, stolen and exploited - how patriarchy works in a nutshell, huh)

Womens lives are highjacked by the patriarchy constantly

Their wombs are stolen by the patriarchy to trap women to a scrote and a live a life of servitude

Their minds and bodies exploited by the porn industry.

The word 'feminism' needs to return to it's rightful owners, it's true advocates, so we can wield it as a political weapon with teeth once again.

[–]redpeithosFDS Apprentice 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ooh I'm going to use that from now on

[–]povofmeFDS Newbie 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thats honestly such a good idea. I hope it catches on

[–]lansburysodaFDS Newbie 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think they’ve targeted it at everyone tbh. Why does so much lib fem propaganda get produced, especially in the music industry? Because there’s a lot of money in the machine, and it’s being run by men

[–]modernmedusaaRuthless Strategist[S] 54 points55 points56 points 4 years ago* (18 children) | Copy Link

It makes sense, the manic pixie artsy pick mes make a great soft target for manipulation

Realistically a lot of those getting into creative industries are privileged.

In fact those with privileged pasts are 2 x more likely to get jobs in creative fields

https://www.artsprofessional.co.uk/news/people-privileged-pasts-twice-likely-hold-creative-jobs-study-finds

However it’s also a competitive field where you are competing for attention, which is why many of them are so boisterous online. They get off on ‘breaking taboos’ and rebelling against norms.

As mentioned in the article above, there is also a toxic culture in creative industries that promotes ‘suffering’ and ‘mental torture’ to create art.

Unfortunately this leads to lots of spoiled brats giving themselves mental illnesses so they can boast about them online and romanticise their suffering.

Which is why liberal feminists often romanticise their abuse online, whether through poetry, music or art. Because it grabs attention.

Creative people are also highly employed by mainstream media who want to communicate their ideas more visually and grab attention.

Not only this but creative people are visual communicators by nature, which means they can easily spread their edge lord ‘sex work is work’ rhetoric in the digital realm, by posting illustrations and graphics on Instagram.

This is most likely why liberal feminism has gained so much clout on social media.

Because much of the younger generation have shorter attention spans due to growing up in tik tok Instagram culture….so unless you go reading copious books on media propaganda, women’s history & feminism…..it’s easy for them to assume liberal feminism is the only kind, since it’s the most prominent on social media.

A lot of the new popular feminist books being marketed on Instagram are written by liberal feminists for this reason.

Which means we need more creative types to spread alternate logic online.

[–]HereForTheFreeFoodOkFDS Newbie 35 points36 points37 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Lynne Ramsay - director. Radfem leanings. You Were Never Really Here was about elite sex trafficking rings in NYC - starring Joaquin Phoenix

Guinevere Turner ( wrote the screenplay to American Psycho) https://twitter.com/turnerguinevere?lang=en

Mary Harron - directed American Psycho

On the surface -that film looks like a misogynistic brofest - but was adapted and directed buy two women who turned it into a caricature of the modern male. His fragility, his lack of substance, his pathetic ego.

Bro scrotes tout that film - not realising it is mocking them.

My point is, there are wildly talented female subversives in the creative arts.

[–]modernmedusaaRuthless Strategist[S] 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks I will add them to the sidebar

But my point is we need more FDS minded creatives making consistent content online. Because it’s liberal feminists dominating social media and mainstream news.

I’m playing around with some video apps and content on procreate at the moment. But my hands are pretty tied already.

I’ve got an artistic streak and know my way around photoshop/ procreate but I’m no professional when it comes to graphics, illustrations & gifs etc.

Which is why I could do with some creatives on board. Even if it’s just a bit of help here and there where possible.

There’s thousands of reports, interviews and statistics on sex work etc that are dying to be crunched and streamlined into visual content. We’ve got quite a bit of material to work with on the wiki page in the sidebar.

When I have time, my plan is to sift out the biggest numbers, facts and standout quotes / findings from the research we have so far. On porn, bdsm, sex work, dating apps, sexual violence etc. And then turn them into posters, slogans & social media content.

When I go on Instagram, lib fem rhetoric is most dominant and we all know why. Because it serves men. And most of them are creatives with advanced skills.

At the moment we’re outnumbered by quirky liberal feminists who have been growing their social following for years, to the point they can afford to bring out their own self published books on sex work etc.

Sometimes people don’t know the author of the feminist book they’re buying from is actually a liberal feminist.

That’s why I won’t give them my money. Even if they sometimes post / print stuff that overlaps with my views. Because most of the time they’re pushing bdsm, 50/50 nonsense & sex work on their Instagram.

[–]HereForTheFreeFoodOkFDS Newbie 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

But my point is we need more FDS minded creatives making consistent content online. Because it’s liberal feminists dominating social media and mainstream news.

Understood. And you are right. We need more content creators with graphic design talents etc.

Sadly - I have none of these skills.

Perhaps we need to do an FDS drives for creatives who can contribute? You are right - libfems have all the creative digital skills.

This list of Dworkin quotes pretty much cover the pantheon of porn/male dominance/bdsm/sex work etc

https://imgur.com/a/HE4Wyur

We need short form - impactful content that hits the spot and makes people curious to learn more. Quotes that make people think "YES THIS IS HOW I FEEL BUT I COULD NEVER ARTICULATE IT"

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They just need a creative artist to illustrate them and bring them to life.

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Edit: The Vulva Temple does great zingdinger meme style posts

https://www.instagram.com/thevulvatemple/?hl=en

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Also - the rules of misogyny is a modern classic. I love how it's designed with the 'undercover' style women. Gives it intrigue and power.

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https://imgur.com/a/nA6b50d

I actually had 100 printed on postcards ( for $38) and plan to hand them out to teenage girls randomly. Will keep a pile in my handbag "Hey - wanna find out why boys are the way they are? Check this out"

But more activism is required online. Agreed.

[–]HereForTheFreeFoodOkFDS Newbie 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

As mentioned in the article above, there is also a toxic culture in creative industries that promotes ‘suffering’ and ‘mental torture’ to create art.

Nothing to say - just wanted to pull this quote

It resonated so much.

Which means we need more creative types to spread alternate logic online

Also this part needs to be louder

Which means we need more creative types to spread alternate logic online

[–]TikiTikiTata-chalalaFDS Newbie 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You should never be made to feel grateful for trauma if you were able channel it into art. And I wonder more if that trauma makes the best art rhetoric is really just because we only want women to traumatize them here. How much of this isn't because women with mental illnesses are artistic, but rather artistic women are traumatized throughout their lives and then exploited through their art? And art therapy is used so often for people to process their trauma -why is this the poster for a model artist?

And artists coming from privileged backgrounds is a truth that gets glossed over SO OFTEN. People who never struggled until they became a starving artist want brownie points for their life choices -completely disregarding what poverty does to people, families, children and communities. A starving artist is rarely genuinely impoverished- they can fall back on their friends, or parents, or social network. Like if you were really starving Jon you'd stop playing guitar in your band and get a fucking job so you could eat. And if you had to take a second job so you could have a car or a house to sleep in you'd take that second fucking job. Instead you're a starving artist staying with your mom and playing gigs on the weekend... *Don't even get me started on substance abuse in either of these situations

Seeking attention in creative fields is priming/conditioning the pick-me's out there to be manic pixie dream girls and make that attitude/way of life/catering to the 'man' a career path 🤦‍♀️ It's devolved to where you can't let your work speak for itself, but you have to shove it under the right noses and deliver whatever they want to smell to get noticed. You have to push harder and do whatever is suggested bc Jessica already did it on New Girl, what else you got? You'll never be able to make a living on this, you need to give me something I've never seen before! (same attitude in porn rn). It becomes creativity by process of elimination, which is so backwards.

Not to say you aren't a real creative if you seek to be discovered etc, just that pushing artists boundaries for more corporate profits has become the norm, to the detriment of the artists (and I'm sure the art by extension).

[–]Rhyssalinae 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for sharing this article, and for your insight. I am one of those creative types who is working on exactly this. Images are powerful and have never been more ubiquitous and the consequences are dire. Most people don't understand images; Gail Dines even says that the human mind has defense against the eloquence of the word, but the human mind has no defense against the glamour of the image. We see the image and our brain interprets it as truth, even if we consciously are aware of its falsehood. This is so dangerous.

You're so right, we need artists who are image-literate to be making images to push back on the current culture. I am researching, working, planning. The thing is, is that we don't really need a huge amount of people to be behind us (FDS) in order to make meaningful change. A small percentage of women who are extremely invested in reimagining the world can reshape it in a way that ensures the liberation of all women.

edit: phrasing

[–]DoversBlueFDS Newbie 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Gail Dines even says that the human mind has defense against the eloquence of the word, but the human mind has no defense against the glamour of the image. We see the image and our brain interprets it as truth, even if we consciously are aware of its falsehood. This is so dangerous.

I don't know much about her work, but what she's saying is really interesting.

From my own experience as someone was very much into reading from a really young age, I remember even then thinking at the level of a child that reading a story is harder and more challenging than watching a movie on tv. Later on, I remember making a remark, in a slightly more mature way, to myself that written fiction is harder and more challenging to ingest while movies/tv shows would leave more of an affect, and basically like you said, leave me defenceless in the face of images whatever the meaning being conveyed. I found music to be the same.

[–]Rhyssalinae 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly so!

It has to do with the structure of the brain. Words are abstract symbols that signify meaning, and are processed in the brain in a different place than information the brain receives visually. I can't remember the specifics but basically because survival is contingent on the brain interpreting it's surroundings in a way that ensures survival, the things we see and hear have to be true. Or we'd get eaten by a lion or something.

[–]goldcloudbb 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

This makes allot of sense and is partly why I left a creative community. It was very clear that the level of abuse I had been through was not welcome.

[–]LaScoundrelle 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Creative people being inspired or motivated by abuse, trauma, and mental illness isn't a new phenomenon though, or an internet-era phenomenon. For hundreds of years artists have heavily been people who are more emotional and sensitive. I do think it's a profession that attracts a certain personality type. And I think lots of people who aren't privileged are drawn to the arts for personality reasons too, it's just that the ones from privileged families have an easier time continuing to pursue the dream longterm.

[–]fds_throwaway_4_uFDS Newbie 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This is spot on. Especially the part about them romanticizing their abuse, trauma, and mental illnesses. You see this a lot on tumblr; they try so hard to compete with each other to be the most creative, tortured artist soul. It’s sickening.

[–]HereForTheFreeFoodOkFDS Newbie 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it fractures their pschye - they deliberately crack open their minds and pursue unhealthy behaviours + dangerous situations as they believe it will unlock the secret to their creativity and spill an authenticity into the world.

Nah. The world already has disorder. It needs harmonic resonance - it needs beauty.

Andrea Dworkin actually had a quote about art ....

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Perhaps our imaginations are so mutilated. that we are incapable of even this ambition; introduce a new theme. Shall we call it joy?

[–]FlockAroundtheClockFDS Newbie 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I try to do my part in my tiny corner of my industry. It's one reason I find FDS so invaluable.

[–]thelonelyempresss 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The other gripe I have with these rainbow haired SW is my personality types is.... the work often isn't that great.

Cool you've painted with your period blood. Shocking. Deep. Edgy....

But what's the point? You're not teaching anyone anything, you just want the crumbs of attention. I (just my opinion) feel art should make me feel something below the surface. Not omg blood or some other edge lord shit to attract male or really ANY attention.

Challenge my thoughts. Make me see beyond what's in front of me. I don't know - that always bugged me. Low effort shit. It's the same reason why I never understood OF... why would anyone pay money to look at a butthole or other lazy nude selfies. 🤔 they aren't even artful or creative most of the time.

[–]ashcantcatchabreakFDS Newbie 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, and the reasons those fields are so damaging is because of the influence of men in them. Remember, even in female dominated fields, men are still the vast majority of leaders and top salaries employees

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