How high does an average LVM really rate himself?

ieatrainbowsprinkles · 2020-08-11T19:08:47+00:00

My recent ex is a NVM narc who feels that he’s better than everybody outwardly, but on the inside he hates himself. He is insecure in his masculinity and compares himself to everyone. He once told me that I’d never do better than him, but also routinely voiced his concern that I’d leave him. I finally did 12 days ago.

It is a shame because he is hot. His personality is just shit.

nowheyrose · 2020-08-11T19:52:37+00:00

I'm in my 20s and many men I know (though I'm surrounded by privilege, which may explain things somewhat) were coddled to death by their mommies. Told they were special, gifted, smart, handsome, etc so many times that they are unable to see themselves any other way.

Anecdotally, it feels kind of like men of my generation were raised this way while women were raised the opposite. It's probably not that simple but I'm in a mood today.

eveninghope · 2020-08-11T19:50:55+00:00

Even if they don't think of themselves as 10s, they think they deserve 10s.

rightascensi0n · 2020-08-11T19:08:19+00:00

I think they rate themselves lower than other men in terms of physical attractiveness but IDK if they even recognize HV traits like emotional intelligence as worthwhile bc their worldview is so focused on selfishness and misogyny. They see little value in cultivating skills that would benefit a partner because they think that their partner should serve them. I’m willing to bet that they think treating women fairly is appalling because in their minds that would mean debasing themselves.

I noticed that they feel entitled to women’s bodies, attention, and admiration sometimes to the point where they think they’re more “deserving” than their peers bc of their self-pity and disdain for women. They may even believe that women (only the ones they deem attractive of course) owe them extra attention for being less attractive than their peers.

They’re the kind to demand that women with a supermodel physique should be lining up for the privilege of waiting on LVMs’ every whim, as if they’re anything special or worthwhile. They’re the kind to accuse all women of being shallow for not “giving them a chance” despite them being repulsive inside and out. Porn/ hentai brain rot will do that I suppose ¯(ツ)/¯

cherryloaf · 2020-08-11T19:56:20+00:00

A few reasons. When a woman gives birth to a son, she usually loses all dignity (no offense to any women with sons who aren't this way). Her precious prince is never to be corrected, criticized, or punished. Men are raised with entire teams of female family members catering to their every whim and essentially teaching them that they are kings who deserve this treatment. Women are told from day one that we're less intelligent, less capable, and exist to serve men.

OrchidLion · 2020-08-11T21:45:31+00:00

The ex LVM I used to know was a 6-7 objectively. He called himself average because of a big nose balding head but was still entitled to fucking the hottest girls. He didn't want to get married unless it was to FOUR Russian barbie kim kartrashians. I asked him why he thinks he deserves that when he's average and what he offers them. He said "I have a car and a house"

He also said "I have a big cock, my wives will be happy" it was 6.8 inches. Idk if that's considered big, I haven't experienced any others. It was big to me, and google says average is 5 so idk, but either way I was unhappy with him as was every other woman who came into contact with him. So...

bootyandthebeet · 2020-08-12T06:13:09+00:00

Both hated himself, called himself a piece of shit, said I didn’t deserve him for how badly he treated me, showed self harming behavior, but then in the same conversation said he didn’t hate himself, liked himself for the most part and didn’t have anything to change or improve about himself. Then proceeded to find a new girlfriend within two weeks of our breakup because in his words “he was lonely and that was how he coped” 🤯

2020-08-17T09:25:32+00:00

I think they basically have an entirely different set of morals and values which is the only thing I can think of to explain their logic. I think they then rate themselves based on their skewed system. They clearly don’t accurately see their character. They will genuinely believe they are a gentleman and then want you to split the check and try to rape you. They are delusional. Maybe the know they aren’t rich and aren’t Brad Pitt so they take off one point for each of those thinking they are now an 8 out of 10 but fail to see they are a negative 20. I used to think LVM were just sweet, insecure, misguided men who were putting on a front. I don’t think that is the case. Their brains are different. I think everything they find evidence to support their view of themselves and never really care enough to question it. I think more than anything they are arrogant. If you are not arrogant, I think it’s impossible to really understand the logic. I can’t even comprehend it

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