Should we try to discourage grown men from flying their red flags?

DiosaCordilia · 2021-12-21T17:58:14+00:00

These articles exist for men to adapt this identity for his OLD profile and to make you think he is like this. Women that make articles like this, are the mommy/caretaker-bangmaids of fully grown man-childs, imo.

ASeaOfQuotes · 2021-12-21T18:02:00+00:00

Any change that isn’t genuine or coming from a place of self reflection and growth isn’t going to last anyways. If they are only acting right to manipulate others, the truth will come out eventually. This is where your intuition serves you so well because it can catch tiny inconsistencies between actions and words much sooner than your conscious thought processes can. Trust your intuition!

superheroxnerd · 2021-12-21T18:09:14+00:00

Definitely I’d want any advice for men to be character building so they can be HV (go to therapy, volunteer, be genuinely kind, help and stick up for others, groom yourself, unlearn entitlement, etc.). Those articles you’re describing are about tips and tricks to hide their true nature to get dates; not putting in the hard work to be a better person in general

Technical_Moth248 · 2021-12-21T18:28:56+00:00

A LVM will still fuck up severely at some point even if they are carefully curating who they are at the start based on instructions. However I fully agree with what you’re saying. Every time I see a man just blatantly toss down a known red flag I laugh and note it (literally had a man tell me “IM A NICE GUY AND WOMEN DONT WANT ME” which I thought they all knew better at this point) I don’t give them any pointers and I try to avoid letting them figure out exactly what killed it. Not always possible because you should block and delete ASAP so if he said something shady and you’re gone he will probably figure out it was bad, but at that point I can’t bring myself to worry about it.

We can’t do anything about articles, but for women coming into FDS you should definitely think of your fellow women when you start writing these long paragraphs to men about everything they did that you didn’t like. It’s a bad idea for several reasons (they don’t care, it’s a waste of your time, etc) but you’re potentially teaching them to be more sneaky about things they hadn’t thought were an issue.

2021-12-21T20:54:25+00:00

I make it a point not to discourage men from showing who they really are as early as possible.

Peak_Tree · 2021-12-21T21:04:38+00:00

Absolutely not. The more open they are about the scrotacy the better.

purasangria · 2021-12-21T21:47:47+00:00

I agree. When you see them making a mistake, just let them keep going. Without you.

Platipus6 · 2021-12-21T23:46:31+00:00

LVM are going to do what they want anyway because they think they know best. Had an unhinged rant from a redpill dickhead schooling me about my own biological imperative. He's going to keep on trucking like a fuckwit because they think they are right.

quiteshall0w · 2021-12-22T00:29:45+00:00

I don't think it's wise to explicitly tell them that. Seduction/redpill-adjacent communities already do. Ever since female-targeted content is online and in open access, many men can and will read up on it and learn how to manipulate better anyway. I know I would do that if I were a man.

2021-12-22T13:31:16+00:00

I think this is when discernment comes into play.

Ex: We should speak out against the abuses in the porn industry without telling men directly that we will not date someone who admits to watching porn. We should allow men the opportunity to show themselves. If he learns about the horrors of the porn industry-what it does to people and to the individuals who watch it-yet continues to consume porn, he is telling on himself.

Saga-the-fierce · 2021-12-21T22:32:02+00:00

I actually like these articles if they are well written.

The articles you've described seem quite Buzzfeed-y which would attract an immature audience. Even if they followed all the steps in the article, your intuition could probably figure out they are following a formula and not being authentic.

Well written articles and TV programmes have managed to articulate important messages to some of the men in my life. It served as a moment of self reflection followed by authentic change.

I like that there are some educational resources out there that works. Too many women without FDS principals attempt to train and educate men themselves. I'd like there to be more high value men out there because we all deserve that. If even one man starts a high value journey as a result of those articles then it's a win for all of us.

2021-12-23T13:29:46+00:00

It teaches Scrotes to be better actors.

Title	Should we try to discourage grown men from flying their red flags?
Author	LysistrataRises
Upvotes	425
Comments	17
Date	December 21, 2021 5:46 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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