TLDR- worst date at Top Golf
After a brief hiatus from online dating shenanigans I decided to jump back into the game just in time for cuffing season.
I matched with Aaron, 34 year-old stately looking beverage sales professional on Bumble. We chatted about how Aaron had played golf in college and though I myself had no experience with the game, I always wanted to learn.
And hey, I’ve always been good with a stick.
Aaron made a reservation at TopGolf and offered to swing through my neighborhood and pick me up in his car. Not being entirely comfortable with riding in cars with strangers from the internet (besides using Uber multiple times/week) I assured him I could take the train (I live right outside of New York City, so I don’t own a car).
“Ah, are you sure? I swear I’m not an axe murderer, I just thought it would be better so we can split the tolls,” he said.
Was that a joke? I thought. Yes. Had to be. Who is seriously that dumb?
Spoiler alert: AARON. Aaron is that dumb.
But that wasn’t even the worst part. Not even close.
We met in the entryway of the establishment and proceed to the counter to get our clubs.
Aaron pulled out some cash and asked me if I had some to split the cost. Considering I never carry cash with me I told him I only have a card.
“Hmmm OK. Do you want to just get this then?” He asked. “Or maybe they have an ATM…” he said, as he perused the area.
I located the ATM and withdrew the cash needed and prayed that this would soon be over.
We awkwardly walked up to the driving range, and Aaron explained to me that he has to pay for everything in cash because his mom is constantly monitoring his spending, and he didn’t want to have to explain that he was on a date.
Why you ask?
Oh, Aaron had ZERO shame in listing the many reasons.
Because Aaron had made some irresponsible financial decisions in the past, including -- but not limited to -- buying a BMW that his salary was unable to support, using student loan money meant for his master’s degree to make the payments on said BMW, racking up massive credit card debt to supplement his rent payments (in addition to other unnecessary luxuries), then applying for a high interest payday loan in order to pay them off, ultimately causing him to fall deeper into serious financial turmoil.
In exchange for bailing him out of these situations and to get back on his feet, his parents allowed him to move back into their home, but they would also be allowed access to his accounts in order to monitor his spending, though he was given a small ‘allowance’ from his own paycheck in which to spend on daily necessities, while the rest went to reimbursing his parents.
After we finished the bucket of balls Aaron offered to drop me off at the train station ‘since it was on his way, anyway.’
How nice.
When we exchanged awkward goodbyes he decided to shoot his shot and went it for a kiss…
...which I denied. Shocker.
Never in my life have I been so happy to board the New Jersey Transit.
Aaron texted me the next day to ask when I was free to go out again, but I never responded. (I know, I know. Shitty move).
Several days later he had another message for me-
“I think it is pretty clear you are the kind of girl that is looking for a wealthy finance guy who can take care of her. All good though. Have a nice week.”
Ohhh I just love me some passive aggression.
[–]GCchickFDS Disciple36 points37 points38 points (6 children) | Copy Link
She should have dropped everything at this precise moment. Saved herself an excruciating date.
[–]tiltmaxxFDS Apprentice19 points20 points21 points (1 child) | Copy Link
If she had subbed to this place, she would have known. That's why this space is so important. Every woman that participates or even just lurks here is that much less susceptible to male bullshit and manipulation. And the more women who learn these things and stop rewarding (intentionally and unintentionally) the shitty behavior of men, the better it is for women as a whole.
[–]GCchickFDS Disciple12 points13 points14 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep, it's exactly what it's doing for me. I'm learning to trust myself when I feel something is a redflag. It's so helpful to read the stories of others because sometimes it's easier to recognise redflags when it's not your own story. This place is fantastic to help us raise our standards.
[–]ChristieFoxFDS Apprentice2 points3 points4 points (3 children) | Copy Link
That's a lesson I learned in a very weird way. Had a "date" with a guy and at the first moment I wanted to go out politely, he started with comments about him not being a rapist or murderer. I shit you not, I was going from very sure about myself to being very afraid in this very instant. I needed more than an hour more to get out without feeling like he was following me.
The most dubious men have the strongest excuses.
[–]GCchickFDS Disciple2 points3 points4 points (2 children) | Copy Link
O.M.G... You did very well by staying longer to try to talk him out of it. Whatever "it" was. This is an extreme redflag.
I'm looking at videos on youtube for fun on "statement analysis" where experts analysis the statement of parents of missing children to find out what happened to them. In many cases, it doesn't long to read between the lines and see the parents killed the child. We naturally feel something is off when someone says something wrong, but we can't really point out what it is exactly. It's just our instinct. These experts actually make it a science which I find interesting.
I'd love to know what they have to say about guys that say "I'm not a rapist" out of the blue. I'm guessing they're telling us "rape or murder" is the first thing on their mind at that moment. Or else (the less extreme version) telling us that "they're not rapists and murderers" is the truth that is told to hide what they're not telling us "I'm so abusive, I will very closely resemble a rapist or a murderer but it's okay I'm not quite at that level".
Anyway, they should be avoided like the plague. I just enjoy trying to understand the human mind.
[–]ChristieFoxFDS Apprentice2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
At the very least, they say "I will use you for my pleasure but not in an illegal way". Maybe they got the accusation that they behave like a rapist or at least shady and so that's what they think about.
Any comment in this direction really is a massive red flag. That's why I'm adamant about telling people to trust their gut. The brain is taught way too much about weighing positives and negatives or doubting the initial meaning. Your first instinct isn't biased like this.
[–]GCchickFDS Disciple1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Absolutely. It speaks of a sinister connection being made in their brain, that's for sure.
This sub is a lifesaver for women.
[–]NoThisIs-PatrickFDS STRATEGY COACH26 points27 points28 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Someone in the comments asked what turned her off. Really? He had her walk to an ATM when she only had her card. That's so tasteless. I'll pay for a friend before making them walk to an ATM.
Also mommy and daddy give him an allowance.
But y'know, he's got that BMW. And bitches love BMWs, amirite?
[–]Ms_TillyRuthless Strategist21 points22 points23 points (0 children) | Copy Link
She was great at telling that cringey story at least. I can't believe he had the nerve to send that last message.
[–]tiltmaxxFDS Apprentice19 points20 points21 points (0 children) | Copy Link
"So you were turned off because he wanted to split the check?" - some dumbfuck scrotus in the comments.
[–]extraacct1234Ruthless Strategist33 points34 points35 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Wow. And people are trying to guilt her in the comments.
[–]blackopium777FDS Apprentice27 points28 points29 points (1 child) | Copy Link
What else was there to expect. I see women who aren't into losers shamed every single day for having standards.
[–]extraacct1234Ruthless Strategist13 points14 points15 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep it's ridiculous.
"who the fuck do you think you are? you want a man who doesn't rape you? What a goddamn princess."
That's how it feels reading this shit.
[–]jalapenopancakesRuthless Strategist16 points17 points18 points (0 children) | Copy Link
“Split the tolls” should have been where she said no.
[–]APrivatephilosophyFDS Disciple11 points12 points13 points (0 children) | Copy Link
There is a middle ground there, guy who lives with his mom, between prima Donna who wants a full wallet, and whatever the fuck you’re trying to be.
[–]AverageToHotRuthless Strategist8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
She should have walked away the moment he mentioned splitting the tolls.
[–]sweatydeathRuthless Strategist7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The first 5 minutes of the date were a huge lady boner killer. Does this guy not realize women literally have hundreds of options in the dating realm?
[–]AverageToHotRuthless Strategist4 points5 points6 points (1 child) | Copy Link
/u/TheSingleSociety
[–]lightningboltxFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I have never in my life met anyone who wanted to split tolls, or even heard of a person like this. Why even date if you can't pay a fucking toll? Fucking yikes
[–]kumquat_fdsFDS Disciple1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
How is he not embarrassed?
[–]QobblingHamster0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Believe it or not, I don't want to date someone who's in debt. I know, such a high bar.