Accidently ended up here. I was misled

coolfunkDJ · 2026-01-24T15:43:36+00:00

But all I see is bashing of women. You use the word "feminist" to critique women.

You think all women are feminists? That's funny. I wouldn't call 29% "all women." Maybe you would? https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/american-women-and-feminism

And don't use data from the 60's and 80s. Start earlier. And at the same time update your knowledge.

Oh you want us to start earlier? The Mosuo in China where only women are allowed to own property and run households, a structure that still exists today? What about The Iroquois Confederacy in which they controlled land, food and only women could vote in leaders/hire chefs etc. The same was true amongst the Ottomans. What about the Khasi in India? Oh right I see, they don't play into your conspiracy theory. My bad.

Maybe the fact that men are falling in behind in education, make up the majority of homeless people, are more likely to die earlier and of suicide, and had male victim shelters violently snatched away from them by feminists? Would that convince you? Nah, didn't think so.

I'm sorry you dismiss all pushback of your faultless idealogy as 'right wing', but in these parts we call advocating for true equality amongst all people 'left wing', so I guess you're just running on faulty data.

CathanCrowell · 2026-01-24T15:50:07+00:00

I’ve been in many subs that hide hate behind “honest criticism.” This is not one of them. Usually, people there point out that the current wave of feminism is part of the problem.

I would like to add that women have all my respect, just like everybody else. I’ve always considered myself a feminist, because I simply did not see the point of not being one. We are all human beings - women or men - and we are all capable of everything.

However, I had to step away from this feminist approach when sentences like “God, I hate men” became normalized, while any criticism of women became unthinkable.

You prove this point with your post. You said: “ Kids have become more verbal, men from what they tell me dont want to discuss, they want to be obeyed. Therefore they leave the job.”

Can you imagine if I wrote a similar generalization about women? This approach simply isn’t right.

_vertig0 · 2026-01-24T16:08:07+00:00

But all I see is bashing of women.

I disagree. Although sometimes that slips through the cracks (Moderators are not omnipotent!), majority of the discussion here is talking about how men aren't straight up set for life just for being born as men, and can suffer pretty badly as well, not flat out just going after women and expecting them to, I dunno, stay in the kitchen or whatever the redpill community wants women to do these days.

You use the word "feminist" to critique women.

The community here contrary to what is said in the post places heavy emphasis on the separation of women and feminists as categories. Though I don't always agree with the criticism of feminism here since I do think feminism has helped women a great deal, at least when it first started, I still recognize that this subreddit does make a distinction between the 2 and aren't just using the term to refer to women without saying it out loud. Why jump to conclusions?

View women as actual human beings.

This is heavily disingenuous. We already do. I don't like the implication that everyone in the community treats women as objects they want complete control over like we're all just carbon copy clones of Andrew Tate being made here.

Karmaze · 2026-01-24T15:52:48+00:00

Sorry, but the actual problem is that we're not using enough current data, not that we need to go older.

blackestmanamultis · 2026-01-24T19:03:07+00:00

Very briefly: the call for more male teachers is a mainstream liberal reaction to the popularity of folks like Andrew Tate and acknowledgment of that thing that's called the crisis of masculinity. As part of that reaction, feminists declared that none of this was their fault and that men must handle it themselves, and so it was decided by the Richard Reeves's and Scott Galloway's of the world--those guys who are trying to advocate for men without making feminists mad at them--that the solution was to hire more male teachers in order to promote examples of healthy masculinity.

You're demanding from me an elaboration on a solution to a problem that I do not have. I personally am not lacking for examples of healthy masculinity. There are plenty of those going all the way back to Jesus and Socrates. What there is, instead, is a lack of information about defending yourself against tyrannical women.

One good way to defend yourself is to question the premises behind people's arguments, so that you don't find yourself tricked into discussions that have nothing to do with what you actually care about.

KPplumbingBob · 2026-01-24T19:33:27+00:00

What a load of waffle. Sorry, it doesn't deserve a better response. Your "analysis" as to why there are more women in education is one of the most hilariously simplistic and reductive reasoning I've seen. Of course with some mandatory victimhood added in with "lower pay".

You seem desperate for us to hate women, to the point you will make up disgusting things about us like celebrating that suicide rates of women have gone up.

Talk about having to get off the internet and go out in the real world. Do better.

Excellent_Client_796 · 2026-01-24T19:17:10+00:00

Bruh it’s because men are expected to get 6 figures and hence must work the dangerous, long, college-degree required occupations. High paying jobs are usually not the most fulfilling and rewarding work, like childcare or teaching. Many women (definitely not all tho, maybe a slight majority idk) want a well-off breadwinner. So men go into these occupations.

Lonely-Base-8526 · 2026-01-24T20:46:50+00:00

So Obviouly my initial take was hard in here, a man exercising his rights was just shot down again by ICE, hope they post about it here.

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