SJW nightmares coming true

We? Who are we? How do you make people behave in such a way not to hurt other people? That you cant change, its impossible. It isnt possible to make laws against bullying because bullying is relative. Most bullying is psychological, and easy to pretend it was not bullying. Then you have the other issue that is not bullying but is just ostracizing people. In the case of men, and women today, we give priviledge to women and treat men like second class. Or the boys at young age that are judged according to their behavior and are put aside if they are not doing whatever it is considered the cool thing to do. Can you change that? No.

The mras tried to fix some problems when it comes to men. Nothing worked. What can be done about it? Mgtow. What is mgtow? Men walking away and letting society fend for itself.

As long as the boys feel they need to integrate a society or a certain group to thrive and survive, they are doomed. The solution is never to appease the bullies or the system. The only thing that works is to completely cut off with it. And the boys being bullied are proof of that, because they dont fight back, because they assume the bullies are somehow part of some hierarchy that they must respect and that they need. In other words they want to be accepted by the society that encroaches on their lives. When the only solution would be to leave it all behind and go somewhere where there is no people like this, or fight them actively, which leads to the shooter problem, or random revenge on society, because its the whole society that is messed up, not particular individuals.

In other words. The only thing that works to fight a society that is toxic is to let it collapse from whithin. Anything else wont work. You might try campaigns of conscience. Wont work. In the end we live in a overpopulated world with gigantic cities, and humans will do as they like, and if you want to eat you must fit in, and work whithin the system, or at least until you make it, you must.

We humans were never meant to live under so much pressure and with so much people around us anyways. You are born in chains, and those chains are impossible to understand and break. You cant walk away, because you were born here. And even if you reject the system, you will be rejected yourself, and you wont thrive.

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(SPOILER).

1st. Joker got nothing to do with the Batman comic except that it took place in Gotham in the 80's, it has the city rich elites like the Waynes and the poor downtrodden who's living from hand to mouth.

Arthur Fleck AKA Joker is just a regular guy with a mental medical condition, he just laugh out loud for no reason, he take medication that control this, but when the government cut back on the healthcare programs for the poor, Arthur can't get the medications for his illness.

On top of all that Arthur has to take care of his demented mother who tells him that she used to worked for the Waynes and that Thomas Wayne is his father, so he tried to talked to Thomas Wayne about it and got his ass beaten.

Arthur is a bad comedian, he did his comedy routine on stage by reading it off a notebook in his hand...LOL. Robert De Nero played a talk show host scum that used Fleck's misfortune or poor comedy act to pumped up his own rating

Basically Joker is a movie about a unstabled man that shitty things keep happening to, shitty things keep piling and piling on until he snapped.

Joker is multi layers docu-drama. A man's journey from society norm to a frustrated man and finally to psychotic clown. The movie also show the divide between the rich and the poor, the Right and the Left IRL. The Right with their cut to Welfare and social healthcare for the poor. The Left and their taxed the rich to funds these programs. Of course the rich won't allowed that to happen, the rich will moved out before they let it happened. Look at NY and California. The poor are stuck where they are while the rich moved out of the state/country.

IMO:I feel that we are all Arthur Fleck, we all are just a few shitty situations away from just snapping and fall into that abyss like Arthur Fleck.

Now for The Dark Knight Ledger's Joker vs. Phoenix's Joker....

Ledger's Joker has the psychotic with the sinister intelligent to go toe-to-toe with a genius scientist like Bruce Wayne/Batman. While Phoenix's Joker might have the psychotic of Ledger's Joker, he doesn't have the intelligent to go up against BW/Batman.

Let's not talk about Jared Leto's Joker in Suicide Squad. Leto's Joker was too OTT cartoonish, remind me of Jim Carrey's The Mask.

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I hate the "victim mentality" shame attack. It is empty and honestly shows that the person being attacked has a point (else they would just prove him/her wrong instead of relying on shame attacks)

Heck, Joker takes responsibility and works to get eh vergence he wants.

It is good because it touches on responsibility. Our current, anti-responsibility culture, tries to put all the blame on the person who does not do what we want them to do so we can escape our own personal responsibility in the matter.

We shame people who point this out by saying they are avoiding responsibility...even though they usually are taking responsibility. They are just pointing out how other people are not taking responsibility.

A good example of this is school shooters.

We bully a boy until he cannot take it anymore and he tries to seek out justice in some way. Usually it is suicide (which everyone is either happy or okay with), but sometimes the boy takes it out on the world instead.

We then treat the bullies like they are innocent victims and treat the boy like he was born as a monster.

When in reality neither are innocent. The bullies made a poor choice and suffered the consequences of it and the shooter will also suffer the consequences for his actions too.

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A portrait of the truth. If you walk around looking homeless people will treat you that way. The best part about it is going into a store and having the help follow you around. Then you walk out and get into a 60k luxury car. Funny shit. Society has a way of shaming men as they hit the ground and continue to fall. I haven't seen the movie yet but I can only assume this is the direction it goes. The character is pushed and pushed more to soak the intolerance of the city to the point he breaks. At least that's what I gather from the preview.

The intolerant left has an issue with the movie because the Joker is a white man. If he was a black man they would be in love with it. In their cross-section identitarian minds they cannot fathom a white man being oppressed. These virtue signaling shitlords throw a fit whenever I tell them my background. They think I'm bullshitting them when I tell them the horrors of what it's like being white boy in a black ghetto.

This is why the "progressive" left is actually a regressive entity in our society. They're either extremely ignorant or extermely naive posturing as intellectual authorities when they're really not.

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They think I'm bullshitting them when I tell them the horrors of what it's like being white boy in a black ghetto.

That must be hard, i would do everything to get out, blacks are far more racist in their communities than whites. Also i heard it is very hard to be mixed. You dont integrate with whites nor blacks. And both hate you. But at the same time you feel like you belong to both and none. Its a messed up world.

I think the left doesnt want to see the fact that their world hurts people. They also dont want to admit that the migrants they import do not also appreciate being forcefully integrated. Foreigners and blacks are not allowed to be conservative, and if they advocate for closing the borders, then they are called mentally ill, or that they have internalized racism. A man who is not white, the left "tolerates", and "embraces", so long as he is a good pet. If he shows signs of individualism, or that he doesnt want to play all those games they want, then suddenly you are just like a nazi, yet they cant call you a nazi.

And its very funny, because blacks and non-whites, its true they were in part rejected by society two decades ago. At least in my country in Europe. Whites kids would make fun of your color of skin, and the girls would not want to be seen next to you, or were afraid of you. Even the teachers were condescending. But now all of a sudden, things got way better, and now, the left wants to make them pets by forcefully integrating them, as if nothing happened. As if thats what a man wants, and not just to be left the fuck alone. As if they didnt grow up in many cases having to build walls around them and being apart from society. The left truly disgusts me as much as the conservatives.

And i tell you this because, no man wants other men to be massed into his land or his tribe. There is nothing racist about it. It causes problems and conflict. But thats what the society of women wants. More men, fighting each other, and competing for scraps, so that women have value, and so that the economy keeps going, and it works. And thats why i cant stand both leftists and conservatives. Because they both love this system.

On the other hand nothing will make you more isolationist and solidary to the whites and in the past of course the blacks. If you have been in a situation where you are a minority. It doesnt matter how tolerant your society is, if you are minority in the wrong place, you will have to fight and build walls, and you will hardly ever integrate. As a kid you will have to fight physically and assert yourself or you will be eaten. As a grown up you will have to work twice as good as the others, without the help of the group or the tribe its a huge disadvantage, and at every step you will be a scapegoat. Its a biological thing.

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I know all about that racism. Skin color was always a point of contention from being denied free lunch at the local schools to getting into fist fights and name calling. Black ghettos are just as racist as white ghettos.

That was my life for the first 20 years and it shaped me to what I am now. Extremely risk adverse and isolationist by nature. I prefer people off my property at a safe distance as I know too well the price of being too kind.

All while this was going on the media never spoke of it. That's how I know the MSM has been fake news for generations. It's not a new phenomenon but a very old one where they segregate Americans based on their caste and zip codes. The middle class kids wouldn't know what we poor kids were going through. How someone as ignorant as Bernie Sanders can say white people don't know what it's like to be poor. As if he's never met a poor white person in his entire life. A bizarre statement to be sure but easily explained by the fact many middle class whites have never met a poor white person.

All of this ignorance is fueled by the MSM propaganda machine to separate people into groups and feed each group a different narrative. This keeps their competitors in a controlled state where they can be manipulated for votes. That their propaganda had an immediate and violent impact on my life was irrelevant to them.

The nemesis of man is the ivory tower. That which didn't exist in nature allowed for the unnatural phenomenon of men looking down on other men. This is why America needs to get beyond this federalist issue and decentralize the current system. It's unhealthy for us and the root cause of all social degeneration mankind has ever known.

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Its incredible how you even with that background you are still very articulate. I had to say it. Anyways, i think they just want to have conflict and divide and conquer. The economies depend on destructive competition between men. Or should i say where the big profits come from. Order out of chaos. There is no other reason for mass migration in Europe under than trying to renew constantly the masses of a country to keep it going the way they want.

It is very clear that feminism needs an endless and constant stream of men. And that it thrives in an overcrowded environment where men of different backgrounds will compete and clash against each other for several reasons. All in all so that they could put a price tag on you the lowest possible. And so that we compete desperately for the freedoms that were naturally ours in the past.

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Mine was a unique situation in more ways than one. Not only was I one of a handful of white kids within city blocks of black kids I was also gifted. My IQ tested 134 in college. Much later on in hindsight I realized why my childhood was so contentious and why I've always come off as strange in my behavior to a lot of others. I read years ago that when you have an IQ difference this great there's little to talk about and a lot of anxiety. People often feel threatened when talking about life and ideas that rattle their belief structures right to the foundation.

I'm not sure how it happened this way. My mother is no doubt where my intelligence came from. Granted she's constrained emotionally and biologically in ways I'll never be. So maybe that explains it. She may simply be less inclined to take the same risks.

When it comes to immigration I think there's a lot of good paths and some bad paths. I think the west is currently on a desperate path due to birth rates scaring the future predictions. Like Western Rome beforehand this will spell disaster as mass immigration will not produce millions of new Americans but tens of millions of enemies. Obviously not every soldier of a foreign country comes packing a battle rifle. Some just bring their empty stomachs and insatiable desire to foist their way of life on the country they wind up in.

Is it driven by some global conspiracy? That I'm on the fence about. I think it's all easily explained to be headless and driven largely by human indifference to those impacted. Corruption definitely exists but to the extent it would be orchestrated by thousands of individuals makes it too porous to be real.

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I read years ago that when you have an IQ difference this great there's little to talk about and a lot of anxiety.

Thats the type women hate the most. Guys that keep it to themselves and are rational. Because you cant be manipulated so they want to make an example of you. Plus they know you are a minority. The trick to fight that is to avoid them, or act as stupid as them. Women always respect men who are aggressive, and criminals. In other words women are cowards. I know this because i have beaten bad women in the past, and they quickly fall in line. Its not something i appreciate or that i wanted to do, but i see it as nature. But as things are right now you would be crazy to think you can discipline all women and everyone around you, without getting in trouble. You cant be the father they didnt have. The best course of action is really to avoid female dominated social groups, or any group where you are not respected. And if all men did that, then things of course would get better, but most men even mgtows cant do that, even when we fight other men, or when we fight women we are not starving the beast, we are feeding it.

Like Western Rome beforehand this will spell disaster as mass immigration will not produce millions of new Americans but tens of millions of enemies.

This is where i think you got it wrong. The system at the moment is our enemy. Bringing in migrants will bring enemies of the system, not necessarily enemies of men, of course that is if they are patriarchal, or muslims. Our women are traitors to the natives, regardless if you are from the black community or white. And our men for the most have no idea whats going on, or are complete useful idiots and white knights. So its hard to say who is really in your side and who is not. And thats why i understand mgtows that say the only solution is to let it collapse.

The masses being brought to the west, are acting as an economical pressure to the majority of enslaved native men. You have to understand most men in the west are not like you and me, and regardless of color and background, they are for the most on the side of the cancer the west has become.

The hopes of the elite, is to keep their economy based on feminism and male disposability. Mass consumerism, materialism. Their hopes, is that wave after wave they bring into the west, that no specific group can gain enough power and unite to destroy the system as it is. So its not necessarily a war against white men or western men. But a war on the tendency of all men to revolt against tyranny. So if our fears are that the muslims overcome feminism and destroy it, then i shouldnt be afraid of that, because the elites would not be risking that, even if it seems they are. But the birthrates are low, and the western feminist economy is very volatile, so we could say that they are somehow desperate, when they resort to importing muslim migrants, but thats about it. I think they know what steps to make after, and that whoever who will be in the west in the future will follow those steps and will submit to feminism. Why do i say this? Because we are in the 5th generation of migrants in Europe, and in America the generations of migrants go back even more, and that only made feminism, the economy and taxes increase.

They might not be able to manipulate the muslim patriarchal migrant, that one thinks he is coming to liberate the west from our degeneracy, and to free men from the idolatry of women. But their sons, it has been proven, they fall into the same exact trap as the natives. And thats the new slaves they want. Until they replace them for the next wave.

Think of a night club. When you get more men in your night club, the drinks get more expensive, and the females get more picky and bitchy.

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White male being destroyed by society and turning psychotic because of it. Think about it in a "school shooters are not created by guns and a bad person alone, but also other people who have a hand in this because of their shitty behaviour and tendencies to use others as scapegoats to feel better themselves" way. The white male took everything upon himself including serious aggressions until he broke.

They would have LOVED it if this movie if it was about a woman or any other "minority", but saying that white men are also victims and that the ones that screw up don't just screw up because they're born as evil white men, but also because the rest of society, including people seen as "good" (...so said sjw themselves and reviewers too, who think they are the most innocent beings on earth and problems are only caused by others and the "society" that only exists in their dreams), is a sin by itself. A white man is privileged and thus any problem he causes only has his nature as a source, not these retards.

Which is funny because it supports a lot of their views at the same time (like this also being caused by the healthcare system and a rich vs poors message), but they don't give a damn about this if it's related to a white man being a victim.

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It was probably rated R because of the "fear that it will cause more school shootings" and other crap like that. That's the propaganda they've been using since the very beginning of this witch hunt, to the point where even the army got on it.

The Army e-mail explained that incels “idolize the Joker character, the violent clown from the Batman series” — an angry loner who turns to violence after too much rejection.

They also like “his depiction as a man who must pretend to be happy but eventually fights back against bullies,” the Army said.

An Army spokesperson said the message was routine.

“We want our workforce to be prepared and diligent on personal safety both inside the workplace and out,” the rep said.

So yeah. Rated R because they didn't like the message (well, they didn't get it at all to begin with so it's not surprising, just like them not getting it isn't surprising itself) and it was "dangerous".

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Title	SJW nightmares coming true
Author	Belzebuthian
Upvotes	1440
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Date	October 26, 2019 5:09 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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