MGTOW defined by Wikipedia... 😑😑😑

YouSaidChicken · 2020-11-23T00:46:30+00:00

It's just a feminist edited, wikipedia supported hate article.

Never donate money to wikipedia. They intentionally locked the page for man haters.

DonMelbourne · 2020-11-23T01:01:11+00:00

Wikipedia has fairly strict rules about what can appear in their articles. The content can't be original research, and must come from verifiable sources. Usually this means articles from newspapers either in-print or on-line. (I know this because I've edited some articles based on my own areas of interest.)

The article is an accurate reflection of what you'll find on-line about MGTOW in the MSM. Keep that in mind when you read other articles on controversial topics that you aren't familiar with!

When the MGTOW article starts to reflect what MGTOW is actually about, then you'll know that MGTOW has reached the mainstream.

13065729n · 2020-11-23T01:02:41+00:00

And Wikipedia claims to be an 'encyclopedia'. What a bunch of BS. The authors just brainlessly list their opinions without providing any evidence and then lock the page so it cannot be edited.

KING_CPB · 2020-11-23T04:51:36+00:00

Wikipedia has been joke for histories & politics & cultures for long time. Only use it for scientific stuffs.

GalacticBisquick · 2020-11-23T05:38:54+00:00

Okay woman here, I know I don’t have the best rep here, but I mostly read the stuff you guys post. It’s not misogynistic or sexist. It’s just you guys doing YOURE own thing. Keep it up guys I know from experience (because I’m a woman) we can be monsters. Some of you are nasty incels but the majority of you have a good heart and just want the best for yourself, stay strong kings, it gets better

TraehNoil · 2020-11-23T02:55:09+00:00

The world doesn’t like men’s rights and that’s the hard truth.

TheApricotCavalier · 2020-11-23T05:18:20+00:00

O no, they are lying about us. Who could have predicted this

3889-1274 · 2020-11-23T08:04:52+00:00

"Wikipedia is not a reliable source". Your teachers were right after all.

ManofGod1000 · 2020-11-23T01:49:08+00:00

Stuff like this happens when people do not understand that words actually have meanings. Heck, how hard is it to understand Men.Going.Their.Own.Way? People need to pull out a proper dictionary and see what each of those words mean but hey, here in America, people believe that the constitution is a living, breathing document that changes throughout time so........

the_cooler_spez · 2020-11-23T03:15:24+00:00

I mean, they're not wrong with a lot of the people who go by this label. You know who you are. There's the actual mgtow who go their own way, and there's the "mgtow" who bitch about women. The majority unfortunately fall into the latter category. If you don't believe me just scroll through r/mgtow or even this sub these days.

ivanoud · 2020-11-23T05:19:44+00:00

mYsOgYnIsTiC

practicesquadleg · 2020-11-23T00:51:55+00:00

Adjectives in general are so lame. It’s shitty writing to just declare something “misogynistic” - if the author objects to certain actions or beliefs of MGTOW, they should state that.

ijustlovebreasts · 2020-11-23T04:56:13+00:00

That also includes incels and pickup artists

You couldn’t have two more opposite things lol.

Blunt_Sage · 2020-11-23T03:04:50+00:00

They literally got everything wrong

Impossible-asset · 2020-11-23T02:51:12+00:00

And you can't edit it for changes to correct it.

This is why i don't dive them that $3 they always want.

CoolDEpot · 2020-11-23T02:38:04+00:00

zalupafilina · 2020-11-23T02:48:01+00:00

I can’t report false information and slander. Anyone know how to do this?

GoMake_me_a_sandwich · 2020-11-23T03:25:11+00:00

We have talked about this before. If you are a editor on wikipedia, DO NOT TRY TO EDIT IT. You will be banned and lose your account. We already experienced that. Feminists own the power there.

CycloneKelly · 2020-11-23T04:17:42+00:00

This is how some men are on MGTOW. I have read some disgusting things about women.

Nostalgic__Memories · 2020-11-23T02:51:57+00:00

We should report and edit it... wtf

akihonj · 2020-11-23T07:18:15+00:00

So, I don't care if they stated, in their opinion, that mgtow is a cult, I really don't care what they say about mgtow.

It's my body, my choice, isn't that the phrase. I can chose what I do with myself and my life, if chose to separate myself from society and in particular from toxic women then isn't that my right.

Now of course everyone is going to say yes, the trouble is to do that they have to admit that some women are toxic and need to be avoided.

That's where they develop cognitive dissonance, either way that's their problem not mine.

I really don't care, Noether should you.

2020-11-23T12:54:51+00:00

Unfortunately part of the MTGOW community is indeed irrational and toxic, from lots of what I'm reading. A large part of the degenerate incel movement has been fuelled by MTGOW, as has misogyny.

Lots of MTGOW people (not all) believe females are inferior to males, toxic, and to be dispensed with by a man. They prone an individualistic male lifestyle devoid of relationships with females beyond prostitution & pornography (two very toxic and degenerate practices that encourage human slavery).

So yes, MTGOW has a very bad rep.

And that's sad because, like every ideology, there's a part of validity. There are problematic female behavior, but the problem is MTGOW ignores and fuels problematic male behavior which prevents self improvement.

Male & female relationships are better seen as two sides of the same coin, yin & yang. Neither is bad or good, they just are. MTGOW often is just the male equivalent of toxic radical man-hating feminism. They're both product of this degenerate agressive post modern ideology.

jakkups · 2020-11-23T02:59:41+00:00

The writing style says it all...

ssebastian364 · 2020-11-23T06:32:27+00:00

https://www.google.com/amp/s/timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/arise-awake-and-stop-not/mgtow-men-going-their-own-way/

"At times they are harder working than men"

This is bullshit.

ssebastian364 · 2020-11-23T06:34:57+00:00

MGTOW need more presence in modern media and men should understand what it means.

009VDETT · 2020-11-23T06:38:47+00:00

Wikipedia is a cuckified pussy-worshiping, feminists trashcan of a free-to-edit online encyclopedia. Nobody on here should be surprised, considering their MGTOW description has been like this for the last 3-4 years it seems.

malemanjul1 · 2020-11-23T06:48:45+00:00

misogynistic?

SheerSocialSuicide · 2020-11-23T10:37:08+00:00

The talk page must be a shitshow

Edit: Here it is:

Misogynist I do not know much about Mgtow, but is it appropriate to address it as misogynist in the first sentence, or should it be more neutral? Again,I don’t know much about it, so I decided to ask. Jcoolbro (talk) (c) 22:44, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

@Jcoolbro: Neutrality on Wikipedia means representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic. It doesn't mean avoiding words like "misogynist", so long as they are reliably sourced and weighted in representation to the sourcing. MGTOW has been widely described as misogynist in reliable sources, and I've yet to see a RS disputing the descriptor, so yes, I believe it's appropriate. Full disclosure, I am the one who inserted the descriptor, but past discussions about the term on this talk page have resulted in it being retained (for example, Talk:Men Going Their Own Way/Archive 14#Misogyny). As always, if you (or anyone else) knows of reliable sources that contradict the descriptor, happy to take a look at them and discuss possibly rewording. GorillaWarfare (talk) 22:53, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia doesn't label terrorist organizations as 'terrorist'. This could only be done if everyone agreed (and obviously their members think they are freedom fighters etc.) What usually happens, after the first few sentences, is something like "The USA, Europe etc. all consider group X a proscribed terrorist organisations" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.138.92.138 (talk) 15:40, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

If you would like to discuss how we describe organizations designated as terrorist groups, I'd recommend you do so on the talk pages of those articles, not here. WP:OTHERCONTENT. GorillaWarfare (talk) 15:47, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Looking at the references on the page though they're ludicrously biased hating on incel pieces, so you'd have to address that first.

thefudmaster · 2020-11-23T12:39:50+00:00

This is classic disinformation from a frequented online source. I overheard middle schoolers the other day (all boys) actually talking about never wanting to marry. I listened to them talk about their parents’ divorces and how their dads were raked over the coals. The other side realizes marriage is a sunk cost and how men are opting out. This terrifies governments because no marriage means very low birth rates. Low birth rates means less taxes later on.

Sintar07 · 2020-11-23T18:24:53+00:00

They also define the Sad Puppies movement at the Hugos as an "alt-right anti-diversity movement," which is almost the exact opposite of what it was. I'm sure I could find a dozen more examples if I looked up anything controversial or political; Wikipedia is not a useful resource anymore.

2020-11-23T19:31:19+00:00

I realized this some months ago: the Wikipedia entries for most MRM entries are all written by feminists citing pseudoscientific, gender-studies articles where they made most of that stuff up. There is a system behind this, because you can write anything on Wikipedia as long as you find a source that can be cited. Be careful: there is a tendency to declare Incels a terroristic group, throw the Incels into MRM and stir/mix vigorously ... this way the feminists can declare any MRM content "hate speech" or even terroristic

prelude12342000 · 2020-11-23T02:29:25+00:00

Feminism is great, anti feminism....ughhh hatred!!!!!

Scantraxx12 · 2020-11-23T03:25:21+00:00

Wow wiki done goofed

djsthename · 2020-11-23T03:42:52+00:00

I hate that every "virgin" group in the internet is seen as misogynistic and anti women

can't we just be a group of self-deprecating group of men

chriskela · 2020-11-23T06:14:54+00:00

That concludes you shouldn't trust wikipedia. I'm to focused on my own things to care about some shady app that puts labels. Stop complaining, GYOW

mrbill1234 · 2020-11-23T07:02:05+00:00

This was posted last week

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2/comments/jvrots/mgtow_wikipedia_entry_where_do_them_come_up_with/

theredqueensrace · 2020-11-23T13:48:57+00:00

When they contacted me for $ support I reminded them of this definition. They’re answer, “ They have no control on content posted by outside agencies and could not edit that content.” . WTF, Are they serious, the person that wrote me back was a female.

WeAreMoreThanUs · 2020-11-23T16:10:32+00:00

What did you expect?

Darthios_121 · 2020-11-23T16:13:07+00:00

I bet a woman wrote the definition

TigPlaze · 2020-11-23T22:16:06+00:00

I tried to push back against the criminals who wrote that article. I used to edit Wikipedia, so I tried to make that article accurate, but they would have none of that. They deliberately put totally biased misinformation in the article. I've been meaning to look up how to challenge a Wikipedia article's objectivity. That would at least put a big banner across the top that says, "This article's objectivity has been challenged." They're supposedly committed to objectivity above all else, but they obviously don't give a crap about that. They might as well start off the article about a heliocentric solar system as, "The heliocentric model of the solar system is a blasphemous view of the solar system espoused by heretics who deserve to be burned at the stake." That would be equally biased.

Lord_Teapot · 2020-11-23T04:09:54+00:00

arguing with holes

AK9029 · 2020-11-23T06:55:46+00:00

How to report this?

daproest1 · 2020-11-23T07:09:42+00:00

Torvaldz_ · 2020-11-23T07:58:53+00:00

How objectives and descriptive.. Is this wiki or it's a fiminst twitter account?

karvina_42 · 2020-11-23T08:37:13+00:00

The person who wrote this is either a simp or a feminist. No doubt.

asaw123 · 2020-11-23T08:52:08+00:00

The main reason of this first sentence is this article The pussy ain’t worth it, bro’: assessing the discourse and structure of MGTOW. This article given as a reference to whole misogynistic parts. Who are these guys, what are their studies I wonder.

A-rip-threw-time · 2020-11-23T09:02:33+00:00

Wtf !

King_retard420 · 2020-11-23T09:16:30+00:00

I read it the other day and it made me sick

a_aniq · 2020-11-23T10:22:17+00:00

Somebody should add an article about MGTOW2

AndreilLimbo · 2020-11-23T11:28:38+00:00

Pick up artists? Wtf did these guys do to them?

mvong123 · 2020-11-23T11:53:27+00:00

We are not "anti" anything! It is our choice to live a life as we see fit, and it doesn't include the manipulation of the justice system, and playing the victim card to achieve it. Can it be more simple?

AsiEsLaVidaAmigo · 2020-11-23T11:58:42+00:00

Oh look, it’s a protected article too. The talk page for that article is full of people calling the author out, but god forbid we let anybody destroy the propaganda.

adishr_ · 2020-11-23T13:26:08+00:00

So what is this sub reallyy about? I'm new

JesusB05 · 2020-11-23T13:31:20+00:00

True tho

typicalgoatfarmer · 2020-11-23T14:32:55+00:00

You can edit the page if you don’t like what it says. This isn’t adding to the community at all.

Edit: turns out I wasn’t paying attention and it is locked to editing.

I personally emailed the Wikimedia Arbitration Committee to try and resolve this issue. I recommend others here that are interested in the real MGTOW ideologies being available do so as well.

The email address is [email protected]

daHorseman324 · 2020-11-23T14:51:00+00:00

Can someone go and re-edit that page again.

gimli52 · 2020-11-23T15:17:47+00:00

I mean it's super accurate.

pdiggs1500 · 2020-11-23T17:41:59+00:00

Wasn't this exact link posted last week?

artographic · 2020-11-23T18:31:59+00:00

Almost anyone can edit wikipedia lol. Just go and re edit it.

papa_za · 2020-11-23T19:07:08+00:00

How... would u guys describe it

2020-11-23T19:23:54+00:00

There are two things I disagree with, the avoiding society part and the incel part.

First I’ve barely seen anyone in the mgtow movement talking about how they’re gonna go off and become a hermit outside of society so that blanket statement is just false.

Secondly, every man is an incel until they and a woman have sex. The term incel is a buzzword and bait towards anger. It’s fucking stupid.

The other stuff is pretty true though from what I’ve seen.

Well, never mind. There are three things. Given the message of the mgtow movement according to this article, who the fuck wants to practice pickup game?

redback-spider · 2020-11-24T00:23:30+00:00

Well isn't MGTOW about not needing aprooval of women? at least a big part of it, so why do "we" need aproval of wikipedia?

I get that such lies are damaging for political movement, but because MGTOW is mostly apolitical slander can't hurt it. It's like somebody would slander math, math as idea don't get hurt by it, it's just true that's the end of it.

GibbyNotGibby · 2020-11-26T05:50:21+00:00

Wouldn’t this also mean that gay men are misogynistic?

_FireInTheHole_ · 2021-03-10T08:23:10+00:00

So now men can't even think about themselves. Even that is misogynistic to these low-key women. Why do they want so much validation? Thank God, I never paid for this crap.

TheShadow420Blazeit · 2020-11-23T03:46:51+00:00

Bruh...

th3allyK4t · 2020-11-23T23:16:04+00:00

Wikipedia is a treasure of misinformation.

TheShadow420Blazeit · 2020-11-23T03:54:32+00:00

"sigh" oh for fucks sake...

Title	MGTOW defined by Wikipedia... 😑😑😑
Author	DaikonGlobal9691
Upvotes	1
Comments	157
Date	November 23, 2020 12:45 AM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW2
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