"Toxic Masculinity" vs Masculinity

Hopefulwaters · 2021-05-21T19:44:16+00:00

Why would social isolation or self reliance be negatives... ?

SilentQ2 · 2021-05-21T17:54:14+00:00

"I am a strong, independant and self controlled woman."

"Toxic masculinity: strength, independance, self-control."

lieutennant_chipmunk · 2021-05-21T18:43:00+00:00

>Kimberly Hill
>Men's Life, Dating, & Relationship Coach

Yeah, sorry Kimberly, I don't think I'll be needing your services.

Such_Temporary_9597 · 2021-05-21T20:44:07+00:00

😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣a woman telling me what masculinity is and trying to make me feel ashamed

shucksdang · 2021-05-21T18:14:41+00:00

that’s the beauty of this philosophy. all you need to do is just walk away.

Sintar07 · 2021-05-21T19:52:52+00:00

"Self reliance" is toxic? Really? I mean, REALLY?!?

traveller1976 · 2021-05-21T21:07:30+00:00

Fuck these definitions. Never apologize for being a man. Donate dick to deserving bitches only, and watch your back

givemethatrandom · 2021-05-21T16:59:48+00:00

Based on a Better Bachelor's video. All credits go to him.

The Masculinity doesn't look like image itself.

speranzaprimaamorire · 2021-05-21T23:31:23+00:00

What does "Extreme self-reliance" even Means??

kanray68 · 2021-05-22T01:15:19+00:00

toxic masculinity: anything men do that does not benefit women

jacknifejones · 2021-05-21T20:48:01+00:00

If you apply her bullet points in order and followed her "advice", you become a beta male.

Her points are a prescription to become a man who is weak, emotes instead of think, is dependant and needy. A man who neglects himself to focus on women.

It's all just a game. A power play.

Lower the value of masculinity through underhanded shaming tactics, raise the stock of females in comparison.

Sea-Buffalo · 2021-05-22T03:46:04+00:00

What cracks me up is how woman will not date a guy like she describes.

The whole toxic masculinity thing is women trying to make betas to use.

Darthios_121 · 2021-05-21T17:29:38+00:00

Sheeeeesh

KarosGraveyard · 2021-05-22T04:23:33+00:00

I find it very funny that they dictate what makes and breaks a man, but the very second we do the same to them, they scream bloody murder and accuse us for being bigots for some reason...

Either way, just dust in the wind. To hell with what they think.

Snowave7 · 2021-05-21T23:57:48+00:00

And if somebody try to describe a negative feminists, see what's will happen next.

Plus point if it describe by man's account, see the beast in their true form.

carlbrooks2 · 2021-05-21T20:10:47+00:00

I feel a raps coming on. MOTHERFUCKER IM TOXIC!

Ricosuaveeeee · 2021-05-22T01:31:00+00:00

All of this is merely opinionated. Not facts. Lost me at social isolation as a toxic trait.

same-old-song- · 2021-05-21T20:30:45+00:00

What’s wrong with having “extreme aspirations?” Is trying to become the best of the best, in a competitive nature a bad thing?

WrongTime01 · 2021-05-22T06:21:24+00:00

You never hear the term “toxic femininity” but you see it significantly more often than whatever the hell “toxic masculinity” is

theanswerisinthedata · 2021-05-22T01:52:53+00:00

The things she lists are “things women dislike about masculinity”. When women bring up “toxic masculinity” they never bring up things that are actually harmful to men. The example I always give is “white knighting”. It’s funny to see how they react to this since women benefit from “white knighting”. But it is great example since men gain nothing from putting themselves at risk to protect a woman but are expected to by society and shamed if they don’t do it. All because of their gender.

Nocturnal_Sociopath · 2021-05-22T04:55:52+00:00

Women talking about"Toxic Masculinity" is basically a women telling men what to wear and how to act. Reverse the roles and see how it sounds. Don't learn how to be a man from a woman.

Phantom_Spark · 2021-05-22T12:14:30+00:00

It’s pretty simple. Toxic masculinity is in essence anything and everything men do. Just throwing around the term toxic masculinity is nothing short of blatant hatred of men.

We already understand ideas like, criminal behavior, unhealthy or unproductive behavior, addiction, etc. That’s sufficient to discuss issues men and women have. The prime focus of saying toxic masculinity is really just the mainstream hatred of men.

It’s easy to see how much many women hate men on a small or large scale when they say things like this but moan and cry about actual constructive criticism.

Ill-Cancel-6322 · 2021-05-21T23:05:44+00:00

Idk seems both have valuable points. MGTOW is literally established to dismiss the opposite sex's moralism

Wasntme_37 · 2021-05-22T01:46:32+00:00

Yep this all that is left, learn masculinity traits from women who themselves don't have any feminine traits 🙄

monk201 · 2021-05-21T20:41:50+00:00

Well damn I got all on her list on a daily basis except the sex got 100 on the mgtow yes i am still in the club

TheApricotCavalier · 2021-05-23T20:31:39+00:00

I value women fairly. They dont like that.

46et2et17 · 2021-05-22T20:21:06+00:00

I'm confused. Who's oppressing who here?

Traditional-Plum-796 · 2021-05-21T19:58:04+00:00

Both are right imo

comptejete · 2021-05-23T00:02:18+00:00

If women are the gatekeepers of sex, then they get to define what masculinity is.

00Starved00 · 2021-05-22T02:19:06+00:00

Women don’t want you, they just want you to hug each other once in a while so that you don’t keep shooting up malls or attacking sororities

Title	"Toxic Masculinity" vs Masculinity
Author	givemethatrandom
Upvotes	1
Comments	87
Date	May 21, 2021 4:59 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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