Article: pre-nups actually prevent divorce

House-of-Raven · 2025-05-18T19:10:24+00:00

Can’t read it, but it makes sense. 80% of divorces are initiated by women, and they overwhelmingly stand to gain the most from divorce. Take away the ability to profit, the incentive disappears, and the rates go down. Seems like common sense.

Rocketronic0 · 2025-05-18T20:18:51+00:00

those who are more likely to exploit a man will not be willing to do a prenup

bifewova234 · 2025-05-18T18:26:27+00:00

Paywall

Redsands · 2025-05-18T23:09:09+00:00

Jana Hocking, as in the same Jana Hocking who has hit the wall after being everyone's darling. The single "dating advice" columnist?

No one should be taking this seriously, this is a last desperate attempt to trap men.. Hit the wall, agree to pre-nup, false accuse later on, pre-nup gets thrown out (pre-nups are entirely at the discression of the biased anti-male court).

Yeah nah, not buying! Change the fucking laws!

Historical_Bet · 2025-05-19T02:38:43+00:00

Absolutely agree, especially for anyone with significant assets or a high net worth, a prenup is just smart planning. It’s not about expecting failure, it’s about creating clarity and protection for both parties. Ironically, having that clarity upfront can actually reduce conflict down the line and lead to stronger, more honest partnerships.

greatfreight · 2025-05-19T09:12:49+00:00

Prenups are one of the very few things that help men protect their assets in a marriage, and even then they not legally binding, they're only to be used as guidelines. It's ridiculous that the Rule of Law & Contract Law comes second to women's privilege.

It's also ridiculous that in a prenup you specify at the time of marriage what items are to be considered separate from the marital assets, but then at the same time if at divorce time the judge may deem it unfair and deem it void. This is despite being signed in front of lawyers and agreed to by both parties. It makes a mockery of Contract Law and the Rule of Law in general. It is up to the man to find a balance between protecting his assets yet still putting up certain assets that are to be divided in the marriage, and having a agreement that seems "fair" to a judge if it does go to court.

Rare-Discipline3774 · 2025-05-18T20:27:16+00:00

Grass is green.

UWontHearMeAnyway · 2025-05-19T08:24:18+00:00

Well yeah... because it prevents one sided benefits from initiating it. "Never sign a contract, where the other side is exclusively incentivized for breaking it".

hendrixski · 2025-05-19T12:21:04+00:00

Divorce rates are much lower among couples with prenuptial agreements. Why then are some people so opposed to them if they're objectively a good thing?

nick690000 · 2025-05-19T16:28:02+00:00

Date them, adult fun, hangout but NEVER EVER cohabitate with them! RESULTS: Solely own my mortgage-free home, totally out of all debt, five figure savings, close to ALL my adult children! Life is GREAT now! NO prenuptial needed!

michaelpaoli · 2025-05-19T18:18:05+00:00

 'They force couples to have brutally honest conversations about expectations, values and what they truly owe each other. It's an opportunity to ask: Why did you choose me? What makes our relationship unique? You're not just talking money, you're unpacking the emotional and economic ecosystem of your relationship.'

Yeah, that's a rather key bit in the article (at least in my opinion). So, prenup, certainly not only about protecting one's self/interests/assets, but really it's a negotiation and discussion. Why would anyone sign a prenup if it wasn't (mutually) beneficial? So, yeah, it (generally) need be that. And, generally involves discussing a whole lot of possible issues and "what ifs", and figuring out how to proceed from there and what would be reasonably fair, etc.

Also, for most intents and purposes, marriage is a civil contract - and there's a whole lot that comes with that - at least by default. A prenup is a way to customize that (much) more to one's liking, rather than just accepting the standard legal package exactly as it is.

So, yeah, prenups - at least done reasonably well, are generally a (very) good thing, typically reasonably well protect both parties, avoid a whole lot of unpleasant surprises, etc. And the whole process of working and figuring all that out and agreeing on it ... yeah, that's all kind'a like couples therapy/counseling/planning too, so there's also that benefit too.

And, sure, doesn't mean prenups can't go badly. E.g. if folks are forced into them, or do them quite improperly so they end up being legally unenforceable or null and void - yeah, don't do that. But some are ignorant, stupid, and/or cheap, and try to, e.g. do their own prenup without knowing the law, without proper legal representation, and end up doing something that then legally falls apart, or wasn't even legal under the applicable jurisdiction at the time the thing was created and signed. So, yeah, don't do that. If it's of enough concern to bother to have it written and get it signed, it's dang well worth investing the bucks to have proper competent legal counsel well go over it and make sure it's all well and proper legally and including as applicable for the particular jurisdiction (e.g. different jurisdictions often have different laws regarding prenups and must satisfy certain conditions for them to be legally binding).

So, yeah, prenups, generally a good thing, and working them out and agreeing on them also generally a good thing for marriage. And yeah, don't just go thinkin' one can grab some standard form one out of some older legal help book, modify it to one's liking, get partner to sign it right before the marriage on-the-spot, and presume that it'll actually be legally valid - yeah, that's almost a sure recipe to screw it up and end up with a not legally valid unenforceable waste of paper. If you're gonna do it (generally recommended), do it well and proper, and with proper competent legal representation, and be sure it's legally appropriate for the relevant jurisdiction. And yeah, lawyer/attorney, you don't want one who does a bit of everything and "sure, I'll do a prenup for you", no, you want competent legal representation that well specializes in applicable area(s) of law, not some generalist of a lawyer/attorney. So, yeah, do it right, your future self will thank you.

SubstantialMajor2798 · 2025-05-20T01:38:54+00:00

Obvious one .. which is why in some gynocentric countries prenups are illegal

RealStarkey · 2025-05-20T18:26:41+00:00

Abolish financial incentives in divorce without prenups.

PerennialPsycho · 2025-05-27T09:31:18+00:00

I think its the other way around. People who sign prenups are more intelligent and have a "action proof" mentality. Which just means they deal with conflicts better.

Title	Article: pre-nups actually prevent divorce
Author	EnvironmentalBuy244
Upvotes	222
Comments	28
Date	May 18, 2025 6:22 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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