Equality they said

thedudewhosanon · 2019-07-22T05:37:21+00:00

That's the logic they have. “I'm strong and can stand up to a man if he decides to use physical force against me”. But when it's reversed, “He hit a woman, which isn't okay, burn the patriarchy!” it's just ridiculous at this point

teeny_big_tree · 2019-07-22T09:11:22+00:00

Self defence should not be gender biased

ClubZlut · 2019-07-22T07:23:58+00:00

Don't hit someone in anger that you're not prepared to fight.

Man or woman, when you hit someone with the intent of doing harm, you become an opponent, and if you're not ready for whatever that may entail, keep your hands to yourself.

GmanTEM02 · 2019-07-22T04:09:44+00:00

Things are not perfectly balanced, Papa Thanos is disappointed.

FaerilyRowanwind · 2019-07-22T06:35:58+00:00

People shouldn’t be hitting in the first place. If someone smacks me back that’s what I get for putting my hands on them first. Seriously though.

SimpleQuantum · 2019-07-22T09:58:21+00:00

So I actually want to hear the sides of both the people saying no you shouldn’t hit back on both

Gozie5 · 2019-07-22T13:24:45+00:00

For me, This "never hit back" rule only applies to children. Because they don't have the full mental capacity.

If an adult (man, woman, animal or alien) hits me, I will hit back.

Fully grown Feminists went the same privilege as children, it's pathetic and embarrassing.

Xyrektv · 2019-07-22T11:21:13+00:00

If you hit her back do you think she would ever hit you again?

MasterVash · 2019-07-22T10:37:14+00:00

Personally, I believe in equal rights.

And equal lefts.

2019-07-22T11:25:47+00:00

Of course, in both cases

samzac01 · 2019-07-22T10:44:49+00:00

Is there any source to this?

sourkid25 · 2019-07-22T13:24:50+00:00

Well it's 2019 so you can identify as a woman before you hit back

TheStumblingWolf · 2019-07-22T07:06:42+00:00

Please provide a source... anyone could post 4 bars and add some numbers. We wanna be taken seriously I assume.

TheN473 · 2019-07-22T13:35:20+00:00

Playing devil's advocate here - were are these two polls from?

The wording suggests they are aimed at opposite sexes (the first to women and latter to men), which makes it look as though the two audiences are of different opinions - so it's not as if the women are saying "I should be able to punch a man" AND "men shouldn't hit women back, no matter what". It looks to me like women are saying "yes, hit that man back" but men are saying "nah dude, don't hit her" (albeit by the tiniest of margins) - which is a totally different narrative...

RealBiggly · 2019-07-22T13:42:10+00:00

Reality check - if a typical man punches you, and you're a typical woman?

RUN!

PurveyorofToxicWaste · 2019-07-22T14:06:11+00:00

No surprise that hypocrisy is a central aspect of a gynocentric society.

GendhisKhan · 2019-07-22T12:47:13+00:00

An important aspect of this is this is how it's seen with the police. If your female partner (or rando) is knocking you about, you cannot try and defend yourself. Fight back, or act defensively (pin their arms etc), you're going to be the one in trouble. You just gotta leave. And if they're physically blocking you from leaving, that's when you should be recording if you're not already, and on speaker-phone with the police.

See a lot of comments, especially on other male-focused subreddits, where they say to hit back, "Equal right equal lefts" all that stuff, that they shouldn't have hit you if they weren't prepared for it to come back. It's terrible advice, and downright dangerous. You will go to jail.

Imposterbatman · 2019-07-22T13:35:58+00:00

I know this is an unpopular opinion but strength disparity should be taken into consideration here, and when I say that I don't apply gender to that statement. I'm 6'1 250lbs, if a 130lb woman takes a swing at me unless shes a trained fighter I'm not swinging back. Same thing applies to a guy, if I have some scrawny guy pissed at me for some reason or another trying to fight me I'm going to defend myself but I'm not going to retaliate, I'm not looking to kill anyone.

anillop · 2019-07-22T13:25:19+00:00

Well of course people are going to say that don't want to get hit back if they hit someone.

2019-07-22T14:21:03+00:00

Anybody thinks they are big enough to hit me, a well built 6' 170 lbs guy, teenager elderly scrawny women obesse I'm gonna put them on their ass. Mentally unstable get a pass but if they know and comprehend their actions they are getting hit back

2019-07-23T00:56:36+00:00

I would re-do the questionnaire to women as follows:

Ladies, if a guy punched you, do you think you should hit him back?
Ladies, if you punched a guy, do you think he has the right to hit you back?

xPASTELx · 2019-07-23T07:42:08+00:00

i bet if i post this in a feminism page or subreddit id get insta banned

UltraD00d · 2019-07-23T16:13:01+00:00

Satou Kazuma wants to know your location.

2019-07-25T01:50:13+00:00

Naturally men are actually aggressive so that makes them punch and scream as they want but women cant punch men because naturally men are stronger.

YoungConor · 2019-07-22T09:20:46+00:00

I'm mad at this

CallOfReddit · 2019-07-22T12:43:09+00:00

According to this, 46% of women are to blame for sexism.

wadsworthsucks · 2019-07-22T13:11:00+00:00

Most women would be either unconscious or in too much pain to hit a man back...

neoalfa · 2019-07-22T14:14:03+00:00

I don't care about their safety. I care about my own. I don't want to be anywhere near people hitting each other, unless I'm sitting comfortably, sipping a drink and at no risk of being hit myself, while I cheer either side to slug harder.

500Rads · 2019-07-22T14:41:25+00:00

No you are still physically stronger in most cases walk away

J2501 · 2019-07-22T14:45:22+00:00

You should take photos of any bruises and report it. I know it's emasculating to feel like a tattle-tale, but seriously, my ex struck me, out of anger, for years, and after she left, all I did was write about it, and got slapped with a protective order.

So document and report, or otherwise, without evidence, a projector is going to claim you did to her everything she actually did to you.

sebe7665 · 2019-07-22T15:00:16+00:00

I did something like this for a school project in year 11 (uk) and got similar results. Small group of people answered tho

TheTangerineTango · 2019-07-22T15:17:23+00:00

Personally as a man and still believing in male equality and all of that, I wouldn’t punch a woman, because honestly it’s not worth it. Everyone will rush to the woman’s side to defend her and you will never here the end of it. It’s better to give her a Warner or just walk away.

darksideofthemoon131 · 2019-07-22T16:00:44+00:00

How about no one should punch anyone else? Violence is unacceptable from either gender towards anyone of any gender. That said- if you hit me, imma gonna hit ya back. Man or woman.

LupivulRius · 2019-07-22T18:12:33+00:00

Self defense is self defense, fucking dumbasses

akamustacherides · 2019-07-22T19:00:18+00:00

My rule of thumb, if a woman hits me like a woman (ie slap, open hand, nothing to the face, weak punch) I won't hit back but if she hits me like a man (ie closed fist, strong, to the face, she took boxing) she gets hit back. I would never hit first and I have never had to use this rule.

2019-07-22T19:36:57+00:00

I slapped a woman in a bar bc she grabbed my crotch. Mind you this is after telling her i wasnt interested. 10/10 would do again. Yknow under the right circumstances.

What im tryin to say, is dont knock the bitch out

quaryquary · 2019-07-22T22:19:12+00:00

Here's the thing, im a girl, and if someone punched me I'd go for one to him back, although he shouldn't be punching me in the first place, go on about fucking manners or whatever, im smol mate, I'd die off a blow, of course, although i might not sound like it, i would prefer if a dude punched me instead of being a "nice" guy, y'know what, lets just talk no punching im fine

2019-07-25T19:34:46+00:00

She's getting punched extra hard to make up for all those years of privilege she's had....

Tgpoppins · 2019-07-22T13:01:26+00:00

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2019-07-22T13:09:45+00:00

Your attempt to make a joke about stupid feminists failed dude. They say that there are not equal rights...

BudnamedSpud · 2019-07-22T06:14:19+00:00

That's different though. I may be bias because I've been Ina lotta fights and therefore can take a hit but I've gotten hit by some girls and it just didn't hurt. Alotta em are harmless. Hitting them back with full force just wouldn't be fair.

Id restrain them though.

OBeliskPhantasm · 2019-07-22T09:17:54+00:00

Biilogivally speaking, you are a built killing machine compared to a woman. If a woman hoeecer is hitting You and trying to harm you, gender goes oit the window. Me personally, face, and balls are an instant "I dont give a fuck about your vagina, youte going to get hurt." However if a woman is shoving Me.and shit she's gonna get shoved back. Depending on the aggresiveness I'm going to try to stop them without punching their lights out by reetrsining or getteng them as far away as I can. If I can't I'm gonna amp up and warn them. If they persist or hurt me more I'm done.

Do0ozy · 2019-07-22T07:09:12+00:00

I can see both sides of this argument. Women should be treated as guys, and if they punch us they do deserve to be punched. However as grown man, almost no women are a threat to me in most circumstances. If a women punches me, I'm not really in danger unless unless she's a giant or a trained fighter.

I've never been punched by girl, but if it happened, I think what I would probably do is give her a good shove and leave, or grab onto her and restrain her if necessary. Although she may deserve it, in most cases punching her back would be excessive in terms of self defense.

Edit: Wow...this is why people don’t take this movement seriously..

Title	Equality they said
Author	zenn648
Upvotes	1854
Comments	104
Date	July 22, 2019 2:36 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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