Feminists literally can't accept that men also struggle because it would ruin their identity that women are victims and require them to take responsibility

Tangible_Falcon · 2024-07-16T19:13:31+00:00

Some feminists are misandrists and they fully believe that they don't need men and that the world would be better off without them. But from my experience most feminists do acknowledge that men can struggle, but they're fully indoctrinated into patriarchy theory (which in many ways is a deeply misogynistic theory) where women are unable to have any agency over themselves or the world, so you'll often hear feminists spout the insane idea that: men built the world, and built it for themselves, therefore all problems men face are their own fault. A mere projection of a self-serving, selfish and entitled woman who thinks men operate the way she does. (#notallwomen)

"If men are struggling it's their own fault and they should become feminists in order to fight the toxic patriarchy and toxic masculinity so men won't struggle anymore. The future is female!" -The average feminist

63daddy · 2024-07-16T17:33:25+00:00

Women being oppressed victims of men as a sex (patriarchy theory) has been a successful, go to strategy for feminists to win policies that advantage women and disadvantage men.

If society and lawmakers acknowledged female privilege and male victimization, then it would be hard to justify policies and practices advantaging women.

Feminist agenda is dependent on selling patriarchy theory so they put an enormous effort into propaganda perpetuating this myth, to the point even many feminists actually believe it.

RhodiumMaiden · 2024-07-16T20:13:41+00:00

It’s like the whole victimhood culture. Despicable, irrational, immature, narcisstic & entitled.

AbysmalDescent · 2024-07-16T20:32:05+00:00

A lot of it is, as you say, coming from women and feminist being unwilling to relinquish their victimhood fantasies, which a lot of them were raised on and indoctrinated into by decades of hateful women being platformed and legitimized, but a lot of it is simply that male disposability and misandry has been so normalized into culture that most people, women especially, simply do not see or recognize it.

A lot of it also has to do with how women are not only purposefully deaf/blind to the way men express themselves or experience the world, but with how many women simply do not care to learn. Women also never really have to actually learn or even be correct about the ways men struggle, because they live in cultures where men are already expected to take on the brunt of the burdens and responsibilities that come with heterosexual relationships.

It's ironic, because women are often depicted as the "empathetic gender", despite all evidence to the contrary, and this false belief is often perpetuated by women who are either too apathetic or never challenged about their views of men to recognize how little they actually know/understand about men. Of course, stereotypes over motherhood and men placating to women also plays a huge role in maintaining this narrative too, but a significant driver for this misconception stems from women validating their own misconceptions about men in other women too.

Current_Finding_4066 · 2024-07-16T17:08:54+00:00

Feminism is victim hood Olympics.

tilldeathdoiparty · 2024-07-17T00:31:24+00:00

You see what they don’t understand is that privilege is only for the privileged.

In all of history, Men would operate within their circumstances, make do with the cards they have. When the original feminists, it was like ‘well yeah, you should be able to vote and have a bank account’. Once they started challenging the system, most of us were like ‘hey, this stuff is our problem too, can we join’ and they said no, and accused us of them problems.

Men will naturally place people in a hierarchy, and operate within it, so everyone can complete the task, right or wrong we all have different strengths and weaknesses. Feminism wants everything to be fair, but when their position is challenged they flip out.

Challenging the elite and the problem with society I am all for, but these dumbasses have labelled all of us the problem and won’t even listen to what we are going through. Imagine if we accepted some of the petty differences and helped each other, what we could accomplish.

Since they can’t get up to a certain level (victim mentally usually can’t progress because they need sympathy) they need to tear it down everyone else to their level, but also not realizing that helps no one, and if we focused our efforts more appropriately, we would get somewhere.

So here we are defending ourselves so we don’t get taken advantage of

killcat · 2024-07-16T20:09:26+00:00

It's the Marxist oppressor/oppressed dynamic they cannot be the oppressed with out the oppressor so they can never accept that men are victims to.

Arise212 · 2024-07-16T17:43:56+00:00

You are right about some feminists. I think others were probably treated badly by an abusive man or other bad men in their lives & then generalize ALL men as bad, due to the actions of a few. Then they treat good men (that did nothing wrong) like crap as some kind of twisted form of revenge against men in general.

rbw223 · 2024-07-16T18:37:44+00:00

A-effin-men!

DrewYetti · 2024-07-17T08:07:49+00:00

You are right on the money with this on and not only that, feminists expect men play the role of the white knight to come to the rescue and take responsibility for their problems. Also, by painting men as the villains and women as victims, women (mainly feminists) can get away with being a villain. So does this reflect women nature or feminists true intention of doing bad and being bad without consequences?

EfficientSimplicity · 2024-07-16T23:11:07+00:00

Great point. Also, women are solipsistic and believe the world revolves around them. And add to that, they care about “emotional truths” rather than objective facts. So women can be wrong objectively but in their minds correct

Fearless-File-3625 · 2024-07-17T00:41:20+00:00

That's nothing exclusive to feminists, most people don't want to accept that men can struggle because then that would mean allocating resources to fixing it. Feminists just use this flaw in our society to further their dehumanisation agenda.

FinalFcknut · 2024-07-17T15:16:16+00:00

100% Right. I've had friends who married feminists, the nicest guys I've known (of course), totally supportive of women; but no matter how much they gave and submitted and apologized, it was never enough, and their wives just continued villifying them. So they ended up crushed, broken, depressed, alcoholic, utterly dominated, Impoverished, having said "I'm sorry" about 10,000 times to women who NEVER apologized and CONSTANTLY abused them... And these guys were still treated as villainous inadequate subhuman oppressors.

Standard-Ad7794 · 2024-07-16T17:09:40+00:00

For people 'campaigning' for equal rights, it's kind of being a backwards effect

TheRabid · 2024-07-16T20:41:16+00:00

It is necessary to understand? Why not just not engage? Or limit engagement?

Main-Tiger8593 · 2024-07-16T19:21:32+00:00

KaliTheCat "mod of askfeminists"

(topic - what mra get right)

I think many of their complaints are legitimate-- that poor men are often exploited for dangerous, cheap labor; that there isn't much social or cultural support for male victims of sexual and domestic violence; that hegemonic masculinity can be stifling and fragile; that men and boys are lonelier than ever before; that male infant circumcision is still legal and widely practiced in some areas; etc.

However, instead of directing their efforts towards criticisms of and activism against capitalism, nationalism, patriarchy, and other oppressive systems that are the cause of those issues, they simply blame women and feminism for their problems.

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thanks for downvoting me for providing proof how feminists think

xxTheMagicBulleT · 2024-07-17T13:10:00+00:00

Both sides got given a shit sandwich. That's not the biggest problem feminists create.

The biggest problem is that the only problem of one side gets taken seriously. And the other side gets seen as whining.

So one is more allowed to complain and be taken seriously. While the other get more silence when they do the same.

The biggest problem is that special privileges are sliding one way. While they don't even give half the same respect. They demand of others their way. And complaining when people don't give a fuck about their troubles based on how they treat others.

Why the saying of double standers. Is so common.

And I just think you're not worthy of Anything your not willing to give someone else the same rights and respect.

Both sides are given a shit sandwich. That's just a fact. Especially with economy shit as it is atm

DazzlingApartment0 · 2024-07-18T01:03:26+00:00

Where are we seeing that Feminists dog think men suffer? I constantly hear from feminists that men should seek therapy. Are you just making shit up?

Jake0024 · 2024-07-16T17:28:28+00:00

Who told you that?

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