patriarchal society is a myth

63daddy · 2022-09-16T01:37:51+00:00

A patriarchy is a society in which men have power of rule and women have no say and in which men use their power to benefit men.

This is in no way shape or form our system. Women can and do run for political offices. Women not only have equal voting rights, but there are more eligible women voters than men. We don’t pass laws advantaging men, we pass laws advantaging women.

Don’t get into any argument based on patriarchy theory, because it’s founded on a false premise.

operative87 · 2022-09-16T01:47:01+00:00

With this I always point out that when it was a crime to be gay in the uk that law only applied to men. Now I in no way support homosexuality being illegal before anyone jumps to that, the law shouldn’t have existed at all but it did exist and was only in relation to men. Same sex relations between women were never illegal.

The reason for this being that queen Victoria, the monarch at the time the was passed, would not give royal assent to such a law if it included women.

proteios1 · 2022-09-16T14:42:47+00:00

patriarchy is the lie told often enough that it eventually becomes the truth....

IronJohnMRA · 2022-09-16T11:42:36+00:00

There is no patriarchy.

JericIV · 2022-09-16T14:41:21+00:00

The queen had no real power. Calling her a matriarch might be technically true, but she was essentially just a prop.

Dramatic-Task8448 · 2022-09-16T14:48:26+00:00

'Patriarchy' is just a political smokescreen for women to get free stuff like subsidies, quotas etc.

You need to understand that women think collectively .

If you say sth about one woman they interpret this as attack on all of them.

It's tricky to wrap your head around it but simple indeed.

Study women are wonderful and female in-group bias it ought to explain all.

REHarris1952 · 2022-09-16T01:19:02+00:00

I got banned from a sub Reddit for pointing this very fact out but it was about Liz 1 not Liz 2

Sparrowphone · 2022-09-16T14:04:32+00:00

The problem is that having an eternal source on which to blame your failures (like patriarchy) is emotionally comforting for most people and also that it's lucrative to sel a narrative that supports this to women.

And so the myth of patriarchy persists.

DutchOnionKnight · 2022-09-16T06:33:25+00:00

If there was a patriarchy, there would have been laws advantaging/protecting men. But there are none. The contruary.

NullIsUndefined · 2022-09-16T12:36:51+00:00

Tbh I think Men and Women respect each other well within most families. Meaning women and men have a great deal of influence over one another within families. Definitely not one sided as patriarchy or matriarchy would suggest.

Sure there are some train wreck families out there where one is very selfish.

The issues arise from our systems which tamper with natural families. No fault divorce for example, uneven child custody, etc.

westoast · 2022-09-16T17:58:15+00:00

Patriarchal society is not a "myth" in general, as some societies are highly patriarchal (see Saudi Arabia, for an extreme example). This point is however frequently overstated with regard to "Western" societies and the situation is more nuanced than most people are willing to admit. It would be ignorant to claim that men don't have an advantage compared to women in certain realms of any society (often with regard to career progression and earnings, for example) Similarly ignorant would be to ignore that women have advantages compared men in other realms of society (often in terms of military duty and prison sentencing, for example.)

vkanucyc · 2022-09-16T02:12:31+00:00

my impression is that while men do have more power in politics - there are more male politicians, women's perspectives and influences often have more influence than men's, even on those male politicians, so it is more of a matriarchal society in that sense, a society with rules and laws that favor women more than men.

Rain4rce · 2022-09-16T05:23:34+00:00

GET REAL. THE ONLY MYGONSITS ARE WOMEN AGAINST EACH other. Queen Elizabeth is the Neigh Century of proof. The only Royals 21st century didn't want to free their people. Woman are women's worst energy. Ask adult Women

PersonMerson · 2022-09-16T03:10:28+00:00

Great analysis of the issue

Suspiciously_Flawed · 2022-09-16T04:14:51+00:00

Disregarding the rest of the argument and topic, your argument is really poorly put together.

A show queen with no actual power is proof that a theory about the overall functioning of society is wrong? Make better arguments brother.

TheHypest64 · 2022-09-16T02:36:37+00:00

Nah man, you don't get it, women and shit, men poopoouhhhh, you wouldn't understand, just trust me man it's a patriarchy and it's really bad and women are really bad l, I mean good, they're really good and I'm an idiot who refuses to address my own lingering trauma from a handful of bad experiences with the opposite sex which is the primary motivation behind my MISANDRY that I will continue to project out onto the world spreading the pain and misery delt unto me until either a miracle happens and I choose to be a better person or I die and I intend to die before I live another day in this oppressive patriarchy! REEEEEEEEEE

Archangel1313 · 2022-09-16T04:52:23+00:00

Lol! Oh boy. Maybe start with high school history class, go back anywhere before 1900, and actually listen to the instructor tell you what life was like. Don't just wave your hand at it, like it couldn't have possibly been that bad...because it was usually worse than what they tell you.

2022-09-16T16:26:22+00:00

It might be a thing of the past, but it’s definitely not a myth.

TAPriceCTR · 2022-09-16T08:47:15+00:00

Patriarchy is very often real... is just absolutely nothing like feminist doctrines claim. Patriarchy is a society where men are responsible for women's wellbeing. The patriarchy of feminist imagination is where men only have power over women for no good reason.

True patriarchies are historically quite common because when men take responsibility for women's wellbeing, society thrives. And when men don't take responsibility for women's wellbeing, societies decay. Women aren't self motivated and powerful enough to carry society... and are far too vain and selfish to sacrifice for "the greater good" (here come the "not all" police).

When ever discussing whether patriarchy is a thing, it's important to clarify the difference because "men rule" has, in fact, very often been a thing, and more often than not been a very good thing. While matriarchies are virtually unheard-of because in their lack of success they vanish into historical obscurity.

bluehorserunning · 2022-09-16T13:14:53+00:00

*snort*

exceptions do not invalidate the rule, and nor do a few queens with zero actual power.

-Soggy-Potato- · 2022-09-16T13:58:11+00:00

There are probably better examples to try and make this point than… a queen existing who inherited the throne - as queens typically have done for centuries - alongside her having essentially no real power over decision making

And even if to make a point, you falsely claimed she had any real influence over the countries rule. That would still merely make her an exception. it’s not as if women were particularly privileged under Mary I / II or Elizabeth the first

fugelwoman · 2022-09-17T11:16:06+00:00

Royal family and queen have not ruled for over 100 years. It’s figurehead no real power so …

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Date	September 16, 2022 1:01 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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