Samsung portrays men as unevolved slobs.

LAMFF · 2013-05-24T03:00:33+00:00

Glad they took some time at the end of the article to explain how women are the real victims of this advertisement that portrays men as bumbling idiots.

JohnGalt316 · 2013-05-24T04:30:53+00:00

Further, she argues, men, who are in power in our society, cannot legitimately cry sexism. “You can say [this ad is] prejudiced, in bad taste, insulting, not funny,” she said. “But it can’t be sexist. Just like a black person can’t be racist. Sexism is a word with a very specific meaning, which is a certain group having more access than another group to the things that make life worth living, such as high wages and good housing.”

truthjusticeca · 2013-05-24T03:25:30+00:00

It's great advertising. Now I know not to ever buy a Samsung product.

Chimmly · 2013-05-24T04:58:40+00:00

I must say that I'm more put off about Gail Dines comment at the end that women cannot be sexist like black people cannot be racist. How can this woman be an "expert" if she doesn't know the very definitions of what she's talking about.

EnlightMen · 2013-05-24T07:53:39+00:00

If women are more evolved, why are they so impressed by shiny objects? - Bill Maher

Patchwirk · 2013-05-24T05:32:49+00:00

Lets see how Samsmug portrays gender roles in this ad:

Implying men are severely inferior to women, or at least not as evolved, by using the title "Evolutionary Husband?"
Sloths who are retarded, incapable maintaining good hygiene or having a legitimate conversation aside from watching TV and eating.
The only way that lifestyle is supported is because of women, who are incapable of changing things themselves (except if they have a magic box)
Men cannot cook for themselves, or choose not to, and it is implied this rarely happens due to it happening in a fantasy.
Cannot care for children unless they choose to. Same fantasy stuff.
Men should be the slaves of women who file their nails while their SO cooks, cleans, takes of the children, and prepares a nice night, rather than trying to work together on it.

inb6 yuutub comments are shit, we all know that.

Also, just some public info the people who directed it, straight from the video description:

Credits:

Animated film: "Tadufeu".

Directed by: Michaël Bellamy, Coralie Braconnot, Franck Delfortrie, Julien Jamme, Olivier Pierre at ESMA -- Ecole Supérieure des Métiers Artistiques -- 2011

You shouldn't doxx these people, but the information regarding their email addresses is likely public. If you have an issue, bring it up with them personally as well, don't just let off steam here with no effect. Be an MRA, not a Mens Rights Armchair Quaterback.

Also, the last two paragraphs are enraging:

Gail Dines, an expert on sexist images in the media and a professor of sociology and women’s studies at Wheelock College in Boston, agrees. “It’s not funny because it normalizes masculine behavior and makes a joke of it,” she told Yahoo! Shine in a phone interview. “It’s the reality of many women’s lives, who get dinner ready, take care of the children, help with homework and do the housework, while the husbands are, in fact, sloth-like.”

Seriously doubting the level of expertise she has actually amounts to anything. As for the normalization bit, you can't judge a group of people by a small portion of them, similar to the Apex Fallacy. This goes both ways, so we shouldn't say all feminists are like this man hating woman. In regards t the last sentence, it may be a reality in some people's lives, but I would like to see a source against or for her case.

Further, she argues, men, who are in power in our society, cannot legitimately cry sexism. “You can say [this ad is] prejudiced, in bad taste, insulting, not funny,” she said. “But it can’t be sexist. Just like a black person can’t be racist. Sexism is a word with a very specific meaning, which is a certain group having more access than another group to the things that make life worth living, such as high wages and good housing.”

Dohoho. Sexism, by her definition, is hypocritical. Men should have equal to using the word "sexism" as much as women do. I really hope she is joking with the racism statement. Just because they were oppressed in the past, does that mean that everything they say is automatically racially okay because of that oppression? Apparently so, and those sorts of statements encourage racism and sexism because it can be interpreted as meaning that women can say what they want due to the oppression they face(d), which she demonstrates. Once again, proper channels people.

2013-05-24T05:53:45+00:00

I like the part where it says its not funny because its realistic.

Gail Dines, an expert on sexist images in the media and a professor of sociology and women’s studies at Wheelock College in Boston, agrees. “It’s not funny because it normalizes masculine behavior and makes a joke of it,” she told Yahoo! Shine in a phone interview. “It’s the reality of many women’s lives, who get dinner ready, take care of the children, help with homework and do the housework, while the husbands are, in fact, sloth-like.”

Wat.

Mr_Rivers · 2013-05-24T08:14:07+00:00

Heh my quote got featured in the article.

"Maybe it’s just always a relief to see men, rather than women (and their butts), as the butt of an advertising joke."

No, this is always the case, it isn't a relief. Obviously, some wymn's studies professor who knows everything about sexism and oppression can clear this up for us by saying men can't be the victims of sexism. Are those guys actually paid real money for their mouth breating, or monopoly money, because I honestly can't see anyone paying someone with such a twisted world view anything.

“It’s the reality of many women’s lives, who get dinner ready, take care of the children, help with homework and do the housework, while the husbands are, in fact, sloth-like.”

Says you can't be sexist and stereotypical against men.

Does it in the next line. THESE PEOPLE ARE MARKING COLLEGE PAPERS

rusty_chipmunk · 2013-05-24T08:23:36+00:00

I looked up this Gail Dines person, and wow she's got some serious issues regarding porn and she seems to have issues with men as well. So I guess your typical womens studies professor?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gail_Dines

In 2007 Dines wrote an article on the Duke lacrosse case in which she suggested "we should put some of the focus back on the men in this case" and their behavior because "they saw the hiring of two black women to strip as a legitimate form of male entertainment."

Dines' writing and positions have come under fire from other academics, including Ronald Weitzer of George Washington University, whose essay "Pornography: the Need For Solid Evidence" critiques Dines' writing (specifically Pornland) for being poorly researched and in strong opposition to the existing body of legitimate research on pornography

On January 30th, 2013, Dines published an article in Counterpunch in which she accused the BDSM website Kink.com of being in violation of the United Nations Convention Against Torture.

Just a few choice things from the page. Pretty sad she is a professor at a college with shit like this, then again it's women studies, gotta keep that oppression card going.

MechPlasma · 2013-05-24T09:57:15+00:00

Jezebel's actual take on the matter is... a little stupid. Basically, they do point out that the writers were just really lazy than that they were actually sexist - which is presumably true. But also uses it as an excuse for why it shouldn't be a problem. Culminating in this line:

If anything, this ad should be considered offensive for its grotesque sound effects.

In other words, Jezebel found something that's actually, and by their own admission, sexist. But since it's against men, they won't admit there's anything wrong with it.

Most of the comments there, on the other hand, are extremely insistent that it's hardly sexist against men but it is against women, because it's encouraging men to be lazier. ...I forgot how amazingly stupid the people at Jezebel are.

Aerithia1 · 2013-05-24T11:04:02+00:00

Gail fucking Dines is at it again.

'It’s not funny because it normalizes masculine behavior and makes a joke of it.'

She believes that masculine behavior is inherently lazy.

2013-05-24T13:10:50+00:00

Is it sad that my first thought after read Gail's quote was this:

"The foolishness of this comment is so deep that I can only ascribe it to higher education. You had to have gone to college to say something this stupid."

Thoughts?

Amunium · 2013-05-24T09:20:05+00:00

Oh, come on. It shows exactly one man as being a slob. This is exactly the type of shit I'd laugh at feminists for getting offended over if the genders were reversed.

Not that I think the ad is good - who would buy something apparently targeted at Neanderthals? But I can't get up in arms either, sorry.

This woman, Gail Dines, on the other hand, offends the fuck out of me. Apparently "masculine behaviour" is being a brain dead sloth, and we even get the old idiotic canards that women can't be sexist and black people can't be racist. Why are they even printing the opinion of someone that ignorant? Not to mention her claim to expertise is a "women's studies degree".

2013-05-24T11:55:04+00:00

“You can say [this ad is] prejudiced, in bad taste, insulting, not funny,” she said. “But it can’t be sexist. Just like a black person can’t be racist."

What the fuck is that sentence... oh for goodness' sake.

MattClark0994 · 2013-05-24T12:07:44+00:00

I read yahoo a lot, and Beth Greenfield likes to spew her feminist nonsense in her articles as much as possible. At least she gives a link to r/mensrights tho.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2013-05-24T15:04:37+00:00

This is why I always laugh when feminists complain that ads portray women as too pretty.

At least you're being portrayed as good for something.

Men in ads are typically unattractive, dumb, and useless (if not downright harmful to their families).

I imagine the emotional trauma for young girls seeing women perpetually displayed as pretty, intelligent, and competent is a bit less than that for boys who only see men on TV who are ugly, dumb, and useless.

brightcityvice · 2013-05-24T12:12:07+00:00

I almost feel bad that I contributed money to this company previously for them to spend money on marketing like this. Will make me think twice about making the decision again

Steve_the_Stevedore · 2013-05-24T12:13:10+00:00

apart from it being sexist, i find it horrifying. even if i had no problem with how genders are presented in there i wouldn't want to buy that product after that ad.

2013-05-24T13:08:50+00:00

Gail Dines, an expert on sexist images in the media and a professor of sociology and women’s studies at Wheelock College in Boston, agrees. “It’s not funny because it normalizes masculine behavior and makes a joke of it,” she told Yahoo! Shine in a phone interview. “It’s the reality of many women’s lives, who get dinner ready, take care of the children, help with homework and do the housework, while the husbands are, in fact, sloth-like.”

Really?!? Really, Professor Dines? I'm pretty sure all the men in the good professor's social circle do their equal share. I cook breakfast, lunch and dinner, clean the house, put the kids to sleep, wake up and feed the baby, hold a full time job on top of all the traditional male duties I'm expected to do.

Then again, I should be so upset, I don't think the professor is a sane person. It is shameful that yahoo chose to quote this obviously biased person. This is the title of her website: Gail Dines | Anti-Pornography Activist, Lecturer, Author, Professor

MockingDead · 2013-05-24T13:56:48+00:00

Well, at least it shows us what feminism really wants from men, a slave.

2013-05-24T15:32:27+00:00

Gail Dines is an idiot.

cstrayer · 2013-05-24T16:54:05+00:00

Further, she argues, men, who are in power in our society, cannot legitimately cry sexism. “You can say [this ad is] prejudiced, in bad taste, insulting, not funny,” she said. “But it can’t be sexist. Just like a black person can’t be racist.

There's no justification for this premise. Membership in a historically disfavored group does not preclude bigotry.

cstrayer · 2013-05-24T16:59:03+00:00

Gail Dines, an expert on sexist images in the media and a professor of sociology and women’s studies at Wheelock College in Boston, agrees. “It’s not funny because it normalizes masculine behavior and makes a joke of it,” she told Yahoo! Shine in a phone interview. “It’s the reality of many women’s lives, who get dinner ready, take care of the children, help with homework and do the housework, while the husbands are, in fact, sloth-like.”

Can we really be expected to accept a conclusion like this on ethos alone?

If you want to show me that "husbands are, in fact, sloth-like," you have a lot to prove. Giving me the words of "an expert on sexist images in the media," without more, isn't going to cut it.

addictedtosugar · 2013-05-24T18:36:15+00:00

I have a galaxy s2 and was waiting to get the s4 as soon as my contract expired. Looks like it will have to be the HTC one. Is there an email address at Samsung I can send my complaints to?

stop_stalking_me · 2013-05-24T20:50:14+00:00

Maybe it’s just always a relief to see men, rather than women (and their butts), as the butt of an advertising joke.

What the fuck planet does she live on? Men are always the butt of advertising jokes. Does she even TV? Unless her logic is that women are the real victims of man bashing.

Further, she argues, men, who are in power in our society, cannot legitimately cry sexism. “You can say [this ad is] prejudiced, in bad taste, insulting, not funny,” she said. “But it can’t be sexist. Just like a black person can’t be racist. Sexism is a word with a very specific meaning, which is a certain group having more access than another group to the things that make life worth living, such as high wages and good housing.”

Seriously? Is this person for real?

Title	Samsung portrays men as unevolved slobs.
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Date	May 24, 2013 2:43 AM UTC (13 years ago)
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