The New Math on Campus

Cookie · 2013-01-15T15:35:14+00:00

Men pushed out of universities; women hardest hit.

Coinin · 2013-01-15T13:17:12+00:00

“Out of that 40 percent, there are maybe 20 percent that we would consider, and out of those 20, 10 have girlfriends, so all the girls are fighting over that other 10 percent,” she said.

I love her little "we", what are they, like, a hive?

The gender gap is not universal. The Ivy League schools are largely equal in gender, and some still tilt male. But at some schools, efforts to balance the numbers have been met with complaints that less-qualified men are being admitted over more-qualified women.

Well, bless my soul.

Edit: There's more!

Women on gender-imbalanced campuses are paying a social price for success and, to a degree, are being victimized by men precisely because they have outperformed them, Professor Campbell said.

So oh. my. god. Outperforming men is now being victimized by them.

This whole article is a most artful exercise in denial. Pathetic. I suppose we'll be seeing a lot more of these kinds of whinges.

buster2209 · 2013-01-15T13:29:03+00:00

So women complain when there are too many men on campus, then complain when there are too few...?

In other news, water is wet...

2013-01-15T14:17:33+00:00

I love this article. I can just imagine the thought process of the person who wrote it.

"Hey, so men are now being underrepresented in colleges and universities. I could write an article examining reasons why young men are avoiding higher education and how to reverse this trend. I could write an article about the implications of raising a generation of young men without a college degree in a world where a degree is more and more required for a fulfilling job. But FUCK THAT, the real problem is that women can't get dates."

mayorjimmy · 2013-01-15T14:37:41+00:00

I laughed my balls off at that.

So you're having to "settle" in the dating game and even then you can't find someone? Welcome to our world ladies. Enjoy the punch to the face life delivers every night when you go to bed alone.

SuperUppercut · 2013-01-15T13:34:50+00:00

It's pretty funny how they frame young men being held back from higher education as A FEMALE PROBLEM... because Suzy Q freshman feminist and her over-entitled lady brigade can't find any dates. Boo-hoo, Suzy. Boo-hoo for you.

Kampane · 2013-01-15T11:39:43+00:00

Good article but your title isn't very gripping so it probably won't get much attention. Also 3 years old.

“A lot of my friends will meet someone and go home for the night and just hope for the best the next morning,” Ms. Lynch said. “They’ll text them and say: ‘I had a great time. Want to hang out next week?’ And they don’t respond.”

Sucks when your "rare commodity" is common.

Women [...] are being victimized by men precisely because they have outperformed them

Such bias. Women are being victimized because men won't commit. Delusional thinking here. The education system failed so many men; they're the real victims.

“A lot of guys [...] can go out and [...] not treat girls to drinks or flatter them"

Bastards need to rot in jail.

BioGenx2b · 2013-01-15T17:20:45+00:00

“I was talking to a friend at a bar, and this girl just came up out of nowhere, grabbed him by the wrist, spun him around and took him out to the dance floor and started grinding,” said Kelly Lynch, a junior at North Carolina, recalling a recent experience.

Italics/bold for emphasis, I'd like to point out how this behavior is gender-neutral, but the responses aren't. I'd never get away with that shit, just damn...

DavidTheWin · 2013-01-15T17:48:32+00:00

Considering most of these women are white, middle class and earning a degree I think it's about time for them to check their privilege. /s

murphymc · 2013-01-15T13:24:41+00:00

So that was incredibly sexist.

dakdego · 2013-01-15T12:35:27+00:00

I got to admit this article made me laugh; I did my undergraduate at an Institute of Technology. My entering class had the best male to female ratio in the Institute's history: 33% female. The dynamic is screwed up when it is skewed either way. Oh the stories I heard about Tech Bitch Syndrome (TBS).

unexpecteditem · 2013-01-15T17:32:55+00:00

Sure they act and dress that way for themselves. Actually I believe they dress and act like they do specifically so they do get noticed by guys, then they berate the men for noticing their advertising and being typical guys. They are attention whores.

Seebiscuit369 · 2013-01-15T13:46:22+00:00

Since most of them are going after only 20% of the men its no wonder they can't find dates. Those 20% are frolicking in fields of boobs.

pastafarianprez · 2013-01-15T19:03:15+00:00

Equality is a bitch.

AnonTheAnonymous · 2013-01-15T20:20:29+00:00

This is exactly feminism. The education system systematically discriminates against men, and the biggest problem women have with this is that there are fewer men for women to date.

Just imagine if Universities were mostly male, and an article like this was written with the genders reversed.

Coinin · 2013-01-15T13:28:57+00:00

I'm not trying to minimalise the growing gender gap in colleges, it genuinely is a huge issue. But the "end of days" tone of the article falls a little flat when Burlington (55% female) is considered lamentable.

Greyfeld · 2013-01-15T20:34:55+00:00

The thing that pissed me off the most was this line:

But at some schools, efforts to balance the numbers have been met with complaints that less-qualified men are being admitted over more-qualified women. In December, the United States Commission on Civil Rights moved to subpoena admissions data from 19 public and private colleges to look at whether they were discriminating against qualified female applicants.

Does anybody else see the hypocrisy in this? You know, as in, "We need more women in office, whether they're the most qualified or not, but trying to balance the gender numbers in college is outrageous and sexist if it's not in favor of women" sort of hypocrisy?

Of course, I believe that the most qualified candidate should always get in, whether it's a job, or a college position, or whatever else you're applying for. But the double standard presented here... I just...

I feel like I'm a fucking crazy person. Like I live in some sort of bizarro-world, where I'm the only person that can see how utterly ridiculous, illogical, unreasonable, and unequal this treatment is.

dieukulele · 2013-01-15T20:42:02+00:00

“A lot of guys know that they can go out and put minimal effort into their appearance and not treat girls to drinks or flatter them, and girls will still flirt with them,"

Oh no! In an environment where the majority of qualified jobs will go to women (because they make up the majority of degree-holders) men won't buy them a drink!

I would like to take a vacation to the U.S., visit all these towns and watch this debacle of logic and values unfold.

Chicago-JSO · 2013-01-15T22:16:45+00:00

"and, to a degree, are being victimized by men precisely because they have outperformed them" Yeah.... Bullshit!

VaginalAssaultRifles · 2013-01-15T23:36:04+00:00

Out of that 40 percent, there are maybe 20 percent that we would consider, and out of those 20, 10 have girlfriends, so all the girls are fighting over that other 10 percent

WOW, I feel so sorry for you, being too good for half of the men you know. That must be really, really rough.

Chicago-JSO · 2013-01-15T22:10:59+00:00

I love how women's logic turns this into how bad it is that women have to compete on "men's" terms. It's like because women "have" to have sex sooner than they would perhaps like they are somehow being violated... Shut up!

Aaod · 2013-01-16T00:25:08+00:00

They refuse to settle and are morons. Not to mention did it ever occur to them the men aren't going out to clubs because they are working on a hard major that leaves them exhausted at the end of the day? Another thing ladies why travel in big packs if you want to find a date? That is intimidating to a lot of guys and chances are it will only attract the wrong kind of guy.

Leaving aside complaints about “affirmative action for boys,” less attention has been focused on the social ramifications.

... how is it affirmative action for men when it is boys who are the ones who are hurt by affirmative action.

Since that is not her style, Ms. Deray said, she has still not had a long-term relationship in college. As a fashion merchandising major, she said, she can only hope the odds improve when she graduates and moves to New York.

HAHAHAHAH good freaking luck with that now you will be competing with women who are even better than you are.

mechakingghidorah · 2013-01-16T01:41:01+00:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPesKyIhGZg

There,Chris Rock explains this fucking article without all the female grandstanding.Women crave social currency and lifestyle,while men crave sexual currency and beauty.

Now,of course this is a generalization,and can be wrong on an individual basis like any other,but I think it holds well.

How many men have complained on the internet that they were nice and women weren't attracted to them,and women are quick to point out that niceness is no "pussy pass" that lets you cash in for fucking.

I can't help but laugh at the irony when they realize that men don't give a shit about her having a college degree and a master's degree.

2013-01-15T19:25:12+00:00

It is so I do not have to be proximal to this detritus that I take correspondence classes. It saves money on incidentals, rent, and transportation, and best of all, I can stay away from the propaganda that is so heavily spread at colleges.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2013-01-16T03:29:28+00:00

So in a story about how men are being excluded from higher education (with all the social detriments that entails) the focus is on . . .

But surrounded by so many other successful women, they often find it harder than expected to find a date on a Friday night. ...Even worse, “Girls feel pressured to do more than they’re comfortable with, to lock it down,” Ms. Lynch said.

Women as the victims and . . .

Needless to say, this puts guys in a position to play the field, and tends to mean that even the ones willing to make a commitment come with storied romantic histories. Rachel Sasser, a senior history major at the table, said that before she and her boyfriend started dating, he had “hooked up with a least five of my friends in my sorority — that I know of.” ....As for a man's cheating, "that's a thing that girls let slide, because you have to," said Emily Kennard, a junior at North Carolina. "If you don't let it slide, you don't have a boyfriend." (Ms. Kennard, however, said that she does not personally tolerate cheating).

Men as the villains.

In December, the United States Commission on Civil Rights moved to subpoena admissions data from 19 public and private colleges to look at whether they were discriminating against qualified female applicants.

Women are 60% of the higher education population, so naturally we need to investigate if women are having it too rough.

Facepalm.

Bobsutan · 2013-01-16T06:43:43+00:00

Oh, hey, I was wondering why this article looked familiar. Thanks to the OP for the H/T to me, it's appreciated. As for the content, this is exactly what I was talking about elsewhere when I spoke about only 10% of men being the ones truly enjoying the fruits of hookup culture. The other 90% of the guys are just like what's described in the article: most guys are completely overlooked by women from an attraction standpoint, and of the men who are attractive many are going to be in relationships. That leaves a small number of men to clean up with the ladies.

The simplest solution for women, like those quoted in the article bemoaning the lack of dating options, is to lower their standards.

edit: here's another article on the topic:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Foodforthought/comments/16nirx/the_end_of_courtship/

Title	The New Math on Campus
Author	unexpecteditem
Upvotes	38
Comments	60
Date	January 15, 2013 11:19 AM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/mensrights/comments/16m2n1/the-new-math-on-campus/
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