This really bothers me

mattreyu · 2015-10-01T12:30:54+00:00

This is great. I hate all the things talking about how childish/helpless/uselessly inept husbands are portrayed. Look at almost every TV sitcom, the husband is a bumbling idiot, and the wife has to save the day every time.

iongantas · 2015-10-01T13:44:34+00:00

I dislike both the original picture blurb and the response to it.

whatpaper · 2015-10-01T17:05:16+00:00

Talked about male work related deaths in class a while ago.

The consensus was that men are stupid and don't use the safety equipment.

So yeah, it does carry into the professional world and yeah, it's hugely damaging.

I hate this type of imagery and I don't care why people are opposed to it. I just want it gone.

As a side note, it was men who were jovially joking about how much men suck. Working class men who definitely don't identify as feminist.

As a gender we really need to stop using self deprecation as a self defence tool if we want to combat disposability in any useful fashion.

Where did you find that image? Is there an address I can sign?

Funcuz · 2015-10-01T17:02:01+00:00

I dunno...I have trouble getting worked up about this sort of thing. Come to think of it, the longer I'm here the more I see similarities with the feminism we've all come to know and love.

I mean, look at it : Whoever made that is basically saying what we always say. So what are we nitpicking it for ? Because we're on the same page as some magical feminist who actually practices what she shrieks ?

This reminds me of when feminists look at a statistic about some major disadvantage men face and turn it into an issue that somehow disadvantages women.

2015-10-01T17:44:45+00:00

At first I thought it was going somewhere good, then they brought up power.

FraustDogger · 2015-10-01T15:07:41+00:00

It also bothers me that he has a wedding band on his right hand and her left hand is bare.

outhouse_steakhouse · 2015-10-02T03:42:52+00:00

I was nodding along with this until I got about halfway through, then... ugh. "Women have always been the primary victims of negative stereotypes against men." There is nothing that feminists can't twist into women being the eternal helpless victims.

Keiichi81 · 2015-10-01T17:16:00+00:00

Feminism proposes that men are simultaneously all-powerful oppressors who control the world and conspire to keep women down, and woefully inept, weak, fragile creatures who need constant mollycoddling and supervision from their female superiors without which they would be incapable of surviving.

MenandBoysareGood · 2015-10-01T17:29:04+00:00

It used to be that society backlashed over the treatment of women as children. Today you can talk about men as being childish and useless and it makes for lots of cheers and humor.

Tomppeli · 2015-10-01T14:39:47+00:00

Many men on the top because they fought their way there (most of them anyway). Men described as idiots because so many people, and feminists in particular, have this stereotype and spread it.

These are two distictly separate phenomena. Stereotypes are something you can't do anything about because they hit each and everyone within the stereotyped group.

TheRationalChannel · 2015-10-01T14:44:11+00:00

It's funny that I have heard feminists complain about being portrayed as the intelligent ones in those adverts whilst the husband is an idiot. I can't recall why they hated it but for some reason yes they did.

creamyfrog · 2015-10-01T21:55:31+00:00

Wow are you really getting offended by a joke? GG men's rights subreddit, great first impression. I thought you were better than this. Consider this an aggressive Milo finger wagging.

javi404 · 2015-10-01T13:11:12+00:00

This bullshit pisses me off as well. As someone who does the dishes and empties the trash, I take great offence to those fucking posts. One of the reasons I don't bother with social media.

Rethgil · 2015-10-01T20:05:14+00:00

Ask yourself a simple question. Who are the target audiences these things are mostly made for? Who are the adverts in the ad breaks aimed at? Are the things being sold generally female items and services, or bought mostly by women? Add on to this the same question regarding white knights or gays.

Now. Final question. With this in mind, why do you think men in such shows are portrayed this negative way? Because it panders to, and reflects, the views of the audience they are targeting with their shows and adverts. Remember, media is not about entertainment. It is a business, about SELLING things. Selling advertising space to corporations to sell products to people. No high audience share means no paying advertisers means the network cancels your show. If it is public broadcasting, it is in the hands of the politicians, whatever they tell you. They also need to appeal to the biggest most gullible section of people to keep their jobs and get elected. Fear is the biggest seller. In other words "men are stupid and dangerous, now buy this"!

DavidByron2 · 2015-10-01T16:46:24+00:00

Yes it's the usual "women are the biggest victims of war" (because their male husbands died) syndrome.

xNOM · 2015-10-01T15:06:15+00:00

LOL as if that guy had trouble feeding and clothing himself before that parasite latched onto him. The idea that the way women take care of men is in any way comparable to the way men take care of women, is a joke. If they were that similar, men wouldn't be dying 6 years sooner.

Title	This really bothers me
Author	chesterfeildsofa
Upvotes	259
Comments	47
Date	October 1, 2015 11:16 AM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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