"what's the murderer's gender?"

mikesteane · 2022-12-22T09:14:02+00:00

"What's the murderer's gender?"

"African"

"That's the race, I asked for the gender"

"My bad, you're sexist not racist."

Qantourisc · 2022-12-22T07:52:58+00:00

"what's the murderer's gender?"

Anyone asking this question has a bias already and is not arguing in good faith. And with their own preconceptions and judgments.

I suppose the only valid reply is: I am sorry to hear you are engaging in sexism; judging the vast majority of a demography based on a small percentage. You are no better then racists.

odysseytree · 2022-12-22T06:52:00+00:00

Just ask who is killing the children. The crimes that bad men commit on people are the same crimes that bad women commit on children.

EmirikolWoker · 2022-12-22T07:22:18+00:00

The focus goes to the gender of violent criminals because the foundation of all forms of feminism are "men are bad and women are weak". Since men are the majority of victims of violent crime (not just murder) the "women are weak" portion is proven wrong in this area, so they move to "men are bad".

What they often don't realise is that they're conceding that violent men would rather be violent against men than women. Which rather throws a spanner in the whole "women are oppressed" narrative. If even the worst elements of society are about 10x more likely to be anti-male (as victim stats show), what does that say about the values of the less- or non-violent men?

Hirudin · 2022-12-22T14:34:08+00:00

"Who raised the murderer?"

elebrin · 2022-12-22T15:19:54+00:00

Mostly, when I talk to them, I feel that I talk against emptiness. What can we say to them? How can we win this conversation?

You can't. I hate to phrase it this way, but this is exactly what some people mean when they talk about NPCs. There are lots of people where, no matter how good your idea or how right you are, you will not be able to bring them to understand it or agree with you. You are talking to a brick wall.

There are some little tricks you can use to influence people in one direction or another, but without a leader from their tribe telling them what to think,they aren't going to change their minds. Hell, I think even if a leader from their tribe told them what to think, they might just change tribes rather than change their minds.

sharksville · 2022-12-22T13:48:02+00:00

You don’t need to sugar coat it or beat around the bush or anything. Say it like it is. People can pick and chose whatever they like to hear. It won’t change the facts. They can choose to remind like the idiots they are, no smart person should drop to their level of stupidity just to try and get something into their head that they are arrogant about. Period

IronJohnMRA · 2022-12-23T17:13:02+00:00

"what's the murderer's gender?" -> why is this too much important?

Because feminists want to pretend that only men murder, not women. It's a way of getting someone to assign blame for serious crimes only on the male gender. Also, it's an attempt to get people to buy into their ideology.

equalRights111 · 2022-12-22T08:15:25+00:00

It’s just a way of discounting the issue, as they often do with any male issue that is raised.

Aside from often not making sense, it’s also not a particular pleasant thing to do. Not much point discussing how to improve gender equality if they are just going to shoot down any issues you are concerned about!

chrisdidwht · 2022-12-23T06:16:54+00:00

Ok but why do women like violent men?

Metraxis · 2022-12-22T11:54:41+00:00

The question you need to ask is: "Does that make them any less dead?"

ggleblanc2 · 2022-12-22T07:16:57+00:00

"The only way to win is not to play." WOPR - WarGames (1983)

mcmur · 2022-12-22T23:10:14+00:00

Yeah this is always the bullshit excuse you'll get when you point out that men greatly outnumber women when it comes to victims of violent crime.

Its total bullshit though, because the gender of the victim is complete irrelevant when it comes to the gender of the perpetrator.

For some reason murder doesn't seem to count for feminists if the victim and the perpetrator share arbitrary characteristics with one another (like gender).

Just because you both have a penis in common doesn't make you less dead when you get shot in the face.

g1455ofwater · 2022-12-22T20:26:30+00:00

Don't focus on defending your position, focus on exposing their hateful position. Feminists among other abhorrent groups use the tactic of vague accusations that don't even make sense to control the other person by making them be on the defensive the whole time.

First make them define their positions, second focus on exposing their double standards. Lastly remember that you can't make them be reasonable, caring or empathetic. All you can do is reveal their evil and move on.

After-Ad-3806 · 2023-01-12T04:11:05+00:00

No one is saying that it’s not murder if it’s a man, but why are you complaining to women when your problem is other men in terms of violent crime and murder?

The killer’s gender is actually important when they commit 90% of the crime you are referencing.

DocRocksPhDont · 2022-12-22T19:19:10+00:00

I agree. Men on men crime and black on black crime are shitty phrases that ignore the issues.

IronJohnMRA · 2022-12-23T17:25:36+00:00

"Should we blame all women for the murders done by a few female adults?"

Alone_Tension4314 · 2022-12-25T00:14:58+00:00

men are killing men

I always thought that's a ridiculous argument. That would be like saying; "Humans are killing other humans" to a woman who was murdered by a guy.

Title	"what's the murderer's gender?"
Author	le_maitre34
Upvotes	71
Comments	83
Date	December 22, 2022 6:48 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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