Why do men only have extrinsic value in comparison to women’s intrinsic value?

shit-zen-giggles · 2023-09-24T07:39:30+00:00

directly follows from their reproductive roles:

Women need to carry the baby for 9 month and then breastfeed for another 9-12 monts. During both of these the woman needs to be taken care of. 👉 intrinsic value

Men on the other hand need to do / provide the care for the woman and the child. 👉 extrinsic value

TiddybraXton333 · 2023-09-24T07:46:46+00:00

Am i the only one here who isn going to ask for a definition of both

walterwallcarpet · 2023-09-24T07:13:00+00:00

All mammals begin life as female. Only at 7 weeks gestation does the SRY gene make us grow a pair, if we've got a Y chromosome. The fact is that, in the harsh environment which shaped human evolutionary biology, a female pregnancy was doomed unless there were men to provide Vitamin B12 and protein, in the form of meat. Females required emissaries, strong, logical, fearless pawns who could be sent out into the outside world, fight with other males, and bring back resources. They'd pick a few berries, while they waited, then would reward the best provider with sexual favours. Often, the hunters wouldn't come back, so the women didn't have favourites to whom they were faithful. They just gave their booty to the winners. That booty has intrinsic value. Bringing back resources has extrinsic value.

Plus ca change, plus la meme chose.....

Net_Flux3 · 2023-09-24T09:14:38+00:00

Why do men only have extrinsic value in comparison to women’s intrinsic value?

As in, are you asking why "society" sees it that way or are you asking it on the premise that it's a true statement regardless of society's views on it? Because if it's the latter, I don't agree with the premise, doubly so for today's overpopulated world.

i-eat-dogs- · 2023-09-24T14:04:58+00:00

Because dudes are simps they give women value simply because they wanna get their Johnson juggled where as men are only seen as valued for what they can provide overall basically simps ruining it

lol_80005 · 2023-09-24T08:00:47+00:00

I don't entirely agree with the premise. Make sure to value yourself. Give yourself a pat on the back, 👑.

I would say people I want to talk to have intrinsic value. Oh, and my family.

FriendOfChad321 · 2023-09-24T11:11:57+00:00

We all know the answer to this.Sex and reproduction.Because of difference in our sex drive and also women have strong in group bias so they stick together while men are always competiting with each other.Men like women and women like women

WasThatIt · 2023-09-24T08:48:10+00:00

How are you getting to that conclusion? Both genders are seen by society as having extrinsic value. We’re all having a shit time because of how society sees us and what we’re expected to provide (be it food, shelter, money, or beauty, sex, doing house work, raising kids, or anything in between). All you need to do is just try and empathise more and it might start bothering you less.

ButWhatOfGlen · 2023-09-24T04:35:36+00:00

Men are sperm, women are wombs. Think about your question with that in mind. Got it? Good.

Rude_Shock343 · 2023-09-24T14:18:04+00:00

because women have value instrinsically due to vajayjay. Men only have value to the extent they are productive.

MrSuggaLand · 2023-09-24T17:21:28+00:00

I think you need to explain what you mean. How do those terms apply to the differences in our psychology?

keeeeeeeeeeeeefe · 2023-09-24T21:01:35+00:00

women carry and create life.

Boxisteph · 2023-09-25T17:02:37+00:00

Only in a patriarchial/(hetero) system does this happen and even then. It doesn't happen men just perceive it to be true once they step into a male echo chamber of their own low self esteem.

Where everyone has a price. A woman, by virtue of just èxisting can birth 'an army' and tame hoards of testosterone fuelled men. A man by just existing has to consciously do something to have a monetiseable impact.

A woman is always a resource in the male world but a man is not.

Within a matriarchy qnd to most women all lives have value and all people are loveable untill proven dangerous - which is where most rejection of males comes from. They constantly prove themsleves dangerous. But girls and women cuddle and love boys, the problem comes when those boys turn to men and start becoming sexually predatory.

NatalieNewmomz98 · 2023-09-26T15:28:27+00:00

IDK where you're getting your ideas, but age or fertility doesn't define a woman's worth. Look at historical events, or even today's refugee issues. Plus, despite lower birth rates, women's social status is better than ever. We should DL the stereotypes and respect everyone.

Title	Why do men only have extrinsic value in comparison to women’s intrinsic value?
Author	Deadwalking2k
Upvotes	102
Comments	48
Date	September 24, 2023 3:24 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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