Why do people consider men talking about men’s issues as anti women?

Nateyandere14 · 2021-03-18T00:46:13+00:00

Because feminists don’t like hearing the truth that we as men go through more statistically they want to be the victims so bad that they drag down any men who dare speak the truth

ShortTailBoa · 2021-03-17T22:51:23+00:00

Gynocentrism. Our society teaches people to value women over men from a young age and so anything that points out issues that affect men as opposed to women is anti-woman.

HaelenHaagen · 2021-03-17T23:47:22+00:00

I found that women are more inclined to over focus on themselves first because of the way they're wired. However, from that to getting triggered at anything and everything, making it out that the whole world is against women is a long way.

Psychopaths and narcissistic are the ones who tend to interpret the way people talk, as an insult. Unless a lot of women are psychopaths, (which I don't think) I suspect they're having Ego issues.

There's also the brain washed theory.

Since women are surviving in groups of mainly women, it's easy to follow whatever bollocks they come up with, and it ends up everyone copying each other's narrative.

LiberalCombatVet · 2021-03-18T00:10:09+00:00

On most sites that discuss men's issues are a bunch of females putting in their two cents, even though they don't attempt to see or understand the male perspective. They are literally trying to tell us to think like a woman not a man. F&ck all that. I'm going to be me, a straight male not some neutered girly man.

2021-03-17T23:41:01+00:00

Feminism isn't progressive otherwise they wouldn't silence men from talking. They're traditionalists

theblackparade87C · 2021-03-18T11:39:12+00:00

Women are always told how oppressed they are. Makes it hard to understand the men.

BurningOrangeHeaven · 2021-03-18T04:35:25+00:00

Like a lot of things, the underlying issue is resource distribution. If they acknowledge male problems, then some of the funding and positions will have to be redistributed.

DiamondDiggler · 2021-03-18T10:07:05+00:00

Unfortunately it's a typical women trait.

Everything has to be about them - anything else means you are oppressing them. Just think about how many women hate their husbands having a good hobby.

HPUnicorn · 2021-03-18T11:12:14+00:00

If you frequent /r/rant, just about every other week there is rant that goes like this "Fuck, men who talk about suicide etc as a man's issue, women commit suicide" and other such posts.

BeastMcQueen · 2021-03-18T13:05:37+00:00

They do not care about men. They worry that, if caring about men is allowed, it might catch on.

343-guilty-mendicant · 2021-03-18T15:04:49+00:00

Because feminism is the oppression of men and anything pushing against that is a threat to the feminist community.

ZimbaZumba · 2021-03-18T04:24:36+00:00

It is how cults operate, dissenters are punished. That is how they retain power over people. The idea of a heretic in the RC Church is a good example of this concept. It is power through fear, and is self perpetuating once established.

TheFakeVenum · 2021-03-18T13:55:16+00:00

Ruins their narrative of all men being evil as well as men's issues disproving the existence of a patriarchy.

WeaknessTechnical654 · 2021-03-18T16:13:29+00:00

We should be pro women and pro men. It is wrong to be pro women and anti men. Pro men is not anti women. Pro women is not anti men. We must make sure everyone understand this.

Drippinice · 2021-03-18T16:44:06+00:00

because they know feminism is anti-men and they're projecting. The men's rights movement has been a whole lot more accepting of women than feminism has been of men

AbysmalDescent · 2021-03-18T18:06:13+00:00

Holding women accountable for their toxic ideals, sexist expectations, double-standards, ignorant projections/misconceptions or outright misandry is viewed as anti-women. Opposing feminism, even when it is clearly destructive or extreme, is viewed as anti-women. Anything that brings attention to the fact that women do, in fact, how power or how that power can be abused in a negative way, is viewed as anti-women.

sofjiihdd · 2021-03-18T10:48:12+00:00

I have found it even on this sub. I was talking about something I had been through and someone instantly said that women went through the same. When called out they said that they didn't mean to dismiss what I had been through but carried on comparing it to with what women go through

mikesteane · 2021-03-17T22:45:49+00:00

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ObviousObservationz · 2021-03-17T23:04:33+00:00

Menslib is a very popular sub reddit and no one thinks it is anti women. The vast majority of conversation is issues that affect males.

Don't let anyone tell you discussing mens issues is anti women. Thats utter garbage.

ClubLegend_Theater · 2021-03-18T05:40:38+00:00

that's the whole reason FOR those issues. People refuse to listen, and it leads to men having problems that go un resolved.

But also, many men's rights types are just anti woman. Just look at the responses here. They are extremely combative against women.

eji1019 · 2021-03-18T08:02:15+00:00

There also is crossover, the same way if you have conversations about women’s issues, sometimes there will be misandrists. So knowing that some people definitely do hate women, they will probably be talking about men’s issues.

Additional_Ad3573 · 2021-03-18T17:14:28+00:00

I don't think that many people consider it inherently anti-woman. Rather, people don't take it seriously because of the fact that often when we discuss men's issues, it's in the context of whataboutism and dismissing women's issues.

iainmf · 2021-03-18T13:48:49+00:00

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Wildcardjukebox · 2021-03-18T04:05:11+00:00

It’s the same reason why people think feminists are anti male when they voice women’s issues. When you advocate for yourself people assume it’ll take away from themselves. However both can simultaneously exist you can advocate for yourself and nothing will be taken from the other person. People don’t understand this. And are selfish and self preserving.

maxlvb · 2021-03-18T03:35:12+00:00

Because you/we/us are not talking about how all women's issues are caused by, and the fault of all men. /s

MattyK414 · 2021-03-18T00:57:48+00:00

Because they inherently understand that half of the population were handed privileges at the expense of the other half.

Burlerevyy · 2021-03-18T02:19:10+00:00

People or woketards ?.

Akiraworldwide · 2021-03-18T06:36:36+00:00

I think because women in general live lives where a large proportion of men are anti-women, and a lot of ‘male rights activists’ are also anti-women, it’s rare to meet people irl that are genuinely not anti-women. I think if you are a balanced human and are able to voice concern for the rights of men and women while not simultaneously blaming women for men’s difficulties, then it’ll be pretty clear you aren’t anti-women. I think the key point is to listen and understands women’s problems and not replying to them with “yeah but men...”

Surrender01 · 2021-03-19T01:26:33+00:00

Because the people that do this are selfish people with poor character. Hear me out:

I know women in my personal life whose minds I've changed. They're no longer feminists and in one case, have become an MRA. I know a couple men like this too. This is because they're open-minded, compassionate, reasonable people who realize they've been propagandized to once the facts are on the table. They demonstrate all three of those character traits: they're open-minded enough to hear the facts, they care about men enough to see them as people, and they're reasonable enough to think about the facts in a way that leads to honest beliefs.

All three of open-mindedness, compassion, and reason are necessary to change a person's mind. Most people are not open-minded, compassionate, and reasonable all at the same time, and the proof is that once the facts are on the table, they still insist on the propaganda. They have a character defect in at least one of those three.

And the reason is ubiquitous among human beings: power and money. As hyperbolic as this may be, it's also true: feminism is basically just communism. It's just an excuse to tax men to pay women, and a way to give power to women at the expense of men. And it's outrageously successful: in Western countries men pay approximately double the taxes women do while women receive about double the government entitlements men do.

Badgerz92 · 2021-03-19T03:08:29+00:00

Talking about men's issues is anti-feminist, and feminists claim anti-feminism is anti-woman.

MattyK414 · 2021-03-20T03:08:58+00:00

I'm trying to dodge bans. "Privileges" isn't referenced to males in this case.

Title	Why do people consider men talking about men’s issues as anti women?
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Upvotes	179
Comments	82
Date	March 17, 2021 10:23 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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