Blue Pill Advice

nicethingyoucanthave · 2013-12-04T22:28:58+00:00

There is no unified "blue pill" blue pill is just anything that isn't "red pill" its like asking "where do I get non-christian advice?" Answer: anywhere that isn't christian.

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spechick · 2013-12-04T22:32:21+00:00

Hypothetical date girl was communicating her feelings. Which is always a good thing in any budding relationship.
(I'm under the impression this was a hypothetical first date)

There could be a number of reasons she may not want to supply a goodnight kiss:
Maybe she's shy and likes to take things slow
Maybe she's got hellish halitosis
Maybe she is indeed not attracted to you

The way she hypothetically went about it wasn't very tactful, but it gets the point across.
My advice would be to not press the issue, but before you guys part ways for the night, ask her about her expectations in the relationship. (maybe she's not looking for a serious relationship, maybe she's a saving-it-til-marriage type, etc.) Just so you know your wants/needs for the relationship mesh and there are no yucky surprises.

[Minor edit for my super-awesome grammar skillz. :P ]

myfriendscantknow · 2013-12-04T22:53:38+00:00

Like others have said, "blue pill advice" doesn't really have much meaning, so I'll just give you my advice.

If A woman said that to me, it would change the entire color of the date. I would begin to pry. "Where do you see this going?" "What do you want out of this date?" If she wasn't forthcoming, I would probably get annoyed. Unless she had a pretty sound reason to say something like that, it's very unlikely I'd go on another date with her.

So there you have it, official, bonafide blue pill advice from a real life blue piller.

Edit: I now realize that didn't really come off as advice, so here it is more advicey: don't be too invested in a date going well, or going anywhere. There are plenty of fish in the sea.

[deleted] · 2013-12-05T02:19:29+00:00

My opinion is to ask if she wants another date and see how it goes because that's not decidedly a sign that you're out of the running. It's possible that she's just shy or that she doesn't like that kind of intimacy on the first date. It doesn't necessarily have to do with you. Also, I didn't even know askTBP existed, we should bring some life to it. I think people usually bring their questions straight to TBP, but that's not the best idea if you want serious advice.

mrsamsa · 2013-12-05T03:10:07+00:00

Given your other comment in this thread aimed at me and soulcakeduck I'm assuming this is your attempt to get blue pillers to give an "affirmative" position on a topic, even though it was already explained to you in the other thread (and now here) that it makes no sense to ask for the "blue pill position".

So, now that we've established that it's absurd to ask for "blue pill advice" and we've accepted that you're likely to get as many varied responses as there are blue pillers, I'll give you my own personal position:

Let me give you a hypothetical: I was on a date and I thought it was going okay, but she told me, she just wanted to let me know so that it wasn't awkward later, that I wouldn't be getting a goodnight kiss.

I don't understand what advice you want or need. If the date was going well, then that's awesome. Keep it up.

I know the red-pill narrative. "Last minute resistance!" and "Shit test!" But those concepts are fundamentally offensive to blue pillers, right?

Those concepts aren't "fundamentally offensive", they're just ridiculous and essentially applied to every situation to suit the particular cognitive bias of the red piller using it.

The concept of LMR isn't entirely fictitious, as I'm sure it's possible that there are some women who say 'no' when they actually want the guy to try to convince them, but there are two major problems with how it is applied: 1) it doesn't happen as often as many red pillers seem to think which results in them applying the concept of LMR to actual statements of non-consent, and 2) even if a specific instance of "no" is simply LMR, it is so dangerous and unnecessary to treat it as LMR that it makes the concept redundant and useless since you have to treat it as if it doesn't even exist.

With "shit tests", again there isn't necessarily a problem with the concept itself. The fact that people play games with people they're attracted to is undebatable, as evidenced by the biggest shit testers of all - red pillers. The problem is more with how it is applied. For example, a red piller will be hanging out with a girl and she'll comment on how some actor is sexy or something and he'll complain that it's a shit test that he's supposed to respond to or pass somehow, instead of realising that it's just a person making conversation.

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RedPillFictionQuesti · 2013-12-04T23:53:44+00:00

I think the part of redpill that most people agree with is the part that tells one to improve on oneself and don't spend a lot of time on people who are not attracted to you.

In this case, I would say "The girl doesn't want to kiss you." If this doesn't co-ordinate with your desires, find someone else who does. If it makes you feel bad about yourself, improve yourself and find someone who makes you feel better. I think that's the common sense part of RP.

Trying to get someone to like you or be physical with you when they have explicitly stated that they don't want to seems really insecure and bizarre to me, when there are so many other people in the world. This might be where I really don't understand RP ideas - who wants kisses that have to be cajoled and manipulated out of someone?

All that said, I agree with the poster who said asking Bluepill as a cohesive unit can't really be done, it's like all secular society to answer Xtian questions.

Still, this is a really interesting topic. I like the idea of trying to compare redpill to other actual advice systems. There was some school of advice that leaped up around the Art of War stuff in 2001 or so; I wonder how it compares to RedPill?

Hayleyk · 2013-12-05T07:03:49+00:00

Bluepill just something redpill has created as an imaginary opponent. The only real answer to this is, "whatever it is you, as a redpiller, want to challenge and/or use to strengthen your most recent redpill talking point."

polyhooly · 2013-12-04T23:44:53+00:00

I would be tempted to say, "no problem, so you're picking up the first check then, right? I'll get it next time (with a smile)."

Title	Blue Pill Advice
Author	nicethingyoucanthave
Upvotes	3
Comments	74
Date	December 4, 2013 8:56 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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