Question for the red pill

FullRedvolution · 2015-03-05T06:09:31+00:00

I don't call it cyncism, I call it reality. Despite what we think human life isn't here for our own enjoyment. Certain things are enjoyable, but that's just a consequence of our evolving to survive. Why sex is good, why food taste good, it's all there. So when you take the red pill, you realize that men and women may not be meant to be spending extended periods of time together. Evolution only dictates that we have sex, and that we have sex with the most genetically fit specimens we can. Women evolved to be hypergamous, and to be manipulative and it has served/is serving them well. I guess you could even say it served humanity well. I guess what I'm saying is that women weren't put here for male enjoyment, which sounds like a feminist to say, but it's true. I accept this, and realize I can only expect a small amount of temporary pleasure from them. So I've learned how to maximize the good I can get out of them and nip the bullshit they spew my way in the bud.

happycow12 · 2015-03-05T06:00:15+00:00

Your own happiness is what is most important. Assuming that a women will also act in what she believes is her best interest is a good place to start when your assessing someone. Women will prove their worth and you will keep them or they will not and you will move on.

Putting a women up on any kind of pedestal above men is a recipe for disaster.

Cyralea · 2015-03-05T17:48:15+00:00

No more cynical than recognizing that a snake will bite you. That's its nature.

Thing is, most of the guys over in TRP have had multiple experiences perfectly described by TRP. When a model accurately describes past, present and future experiences, that's a pretty good model.

exit_sandman · 2015-03-05T09:11:39+00:00

Why all of the cynicism when it comes to the opposite sex.

Because it explains all the stuff that has been reiterated not to be true over and over again despite obviously happening.
Because all women I know (without exception) display at least some traits subscribed to them by TRP. The good ones only very few, though.
Because knowing what women in general are able to do and what tactics they use in their dealings with men can be pretty handy for the case you run into one who does it. The point is: I don't need a manual about how to deal with women when they are not complicated and adverserial, I need one for the situations when they are - regardless of whether the former or latter is more common.

YaBoiTibzz · 2015-03-05T06:03:13+00:00

Is there a specific point you're trying to make?

HumanSockPuppet · 2015-03-05T07:30:08+00:00

But for a group so centered around data and analyzing did you ever think maybe you were with a girl who wasn't good for you and your sample size for something like awalt is woefully small?

That's what each guy believes before he finds the Red Pill.

"It must be me. I must be some kind of bitch magnet. These other guys seem to be having good relationships, so that means there have to be good girls out there, and I'm just not meeting them."

Then, he finds a community of guys online, and they all have stories that sound exactly like his. Each story is a data point, and all the data points reveal a pattern.

And then, he realizes that the guys who are having "good relationships" - they're just following a set of rules. A set of rules that he was never taught.

TheScamr · 2015-03-05T09:54:12+00:00

It is an adjustment from the positive idealization of women in society. I was raised in schools where I was told girls were smarter than boys, better communicators, more caring.

So you overlook a lot of faults until you cannot take it anymore. If you say you don't want to something you should not be nagged. If you are in a disagreement you should not be the calm one while the other screams and slams stuff. And you should not have to deal with all the excuses for women's lack of accountability for their petty drama.

nomdplume · 2015-03-05T18:36:10+00:00

I view myself as a "pragmatic" or a "realist" rather than a "cynic" or a "pessimist."

I don't see myself as "cynical" because there is a value judgment about reality in there.

Cynicism is just the flip side of the "idealist" coin. Both make the mistake of looking at people, the world, life, whatever, as if there is something inherently wrong that needs to be fixed or changed. That the universe could (or should) somehow be improved upon.

I look at the universe and everything in it as "perfect" (i.e., the way it "should" be) in and of itself, my personal feelings on the matter notwithstanding.

Therefore, instead of looking to the universe (and the people therein) to accommodate my feelings, I adapt myself and my feelings to the universe. It's way easier to work on myself than it is to work on the universe (and other people).

So, I'm not cynical about women (or men, or life) because I don't believe that there is anything wrong with them. They are what they are, and they need be nothing else. Humans be human, and there is plenty to love and appreciate right there.

When women (or people) do great things, I feel happy. When they don't do great things, I feel sad. But I work to remove the "taking it personally" from the equation by not equating my happiness or my sadness to some ideal state.

Title	Question for the red pill
Author	nermalsweater
Upvotes	6
Comments	75
Date	March 5, 2015 5:43 AM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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