Self-improvement "for yourself"

PMmeareasontolive · 2022-01-03T19:56:49+00:00

Yeah, I always found that RP reasoning sus that you are doing it for yourself, but oh by the way now women will like you too. Why not go Buddhist and withdraw from materialism and attachments? How about developing compassion? It's probably by far the most self improvement thing you can do but nobody seems to be red pilling it down that path.

Same thing with women who dress up just for themselves. Sure you are.

everleexc · 2022-01-03T19:16:03+00:00

Hmm even if i never pull a girl who i actually like and find pretty, ill never stop working out. Its a part of my lifestyle, like how gaming was when i was in school.

Potential_Plate2538 · 2022-01-03T19:32:56+00:00

It's a dumb platitude. People do things to attract others all the time and it's normal. Just don't go overboard and realize they have to be things you are ok with doing.

Feroc · 2022-01-03T20:55:45+00:00

People with a will to survive will still self-improve in this situation, they would just focus on different things, things that would help them in that situation to get the best out of it.

flapperfemmefatale · 2022-01-03T19:07:11+00:00

I'm pretty set on the kind of person I want to be. I don't think that'd go away because everyone else does, because it has nothing to do with them.

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ChibsFilipTelfordd · 2022-01-03T19:37:33+00:00

do you think they would continue to "self-improve"?

Yes bc I want to live to 100 instead of dying of CHF at 65

Novadina · 2022-01-03T20:03:02+00:00

I have always had an image of the kind of person I want to be, and it includes being healthy and in shape, being knowledgeable about many things, being a nice person, and finding happiness. I wouldn’t want to be obese no matter if there were other people - it actually sounds painful carrying all that extra weight around and being out of shape means I couldn’t do the things I enjoy doing (including things I currently only do by myself, like ride my horse). Even if I get a little out of shape I get pain, my back needs good strength just to carry my heavy boobs around, other people existing wouldn’t make me want to put up with pain…

And I don’t see why I’d want to change my goals of happiness or not being hateful no matter how many other people exist… it would be awfully hard for me to be happy if there were no humans left, but I’m sure the goal would still exist. And I always enjoy learning, it’s something I exclusively do alone, I don’t see why other people would effect that at all. I definitely don’t learn things for anyone else, I can’t even imagine who would even see anything from that.

Yixagurpuldink · 2022-01-04T04:31:55+00:00

There are things I WANT to be that can't be taken away from me. Things like a good physique, lifting goals, martial arts skills, etc... which obviously have a social benefit to them but at the end are me to claim I could.

lonely_mixtape · 2022-01-04T09:17:08+00:00

I feel like a mix of both is fine. But other people tend to be far better motivators. Not even just an SO or smthn, but I think of my future children and a family I want to have. I have to improve myself so I can be the best mother for my children and best wife for my husband. I also find motivation for things I just want for myself as well of course, but I still enjoy being recognized by others for my efforts and enjoy the social benefits of it as well.

eg. learning how to do make up is something I'd only ever take the time to do it if it was smthn I really genuinely wanted for myself. But if I do end up doing it, ofc I want ppl to recognize that I put extra effort into how I look and I'd definitely enjoy any extra attention I'd get for doing it. (not me, a full grown adult woman, outing herself that she doesn't know how to do make up 😅😅)

Anyways, I don't see why we can't do it for both external and internal validation. Perhaps finding a healthy balance is what ppl should really aim for. A balance between being secure in oneself for their own achievements while also appreciating how others recognize their achievements and reward them for it.

heyitsjeape · 2022-01-05T22:30:55+00:00

No. “Self-improvement” is a way for industry to sell you more of something. Almost every person will tell you they’re trying to improve themselves but many are worse off than they were before. There is nothing wrong with being happy - or at least accepting - of who you are and expecting that others can appreciate you for who you are as well.

Title	Self-improvement "for yourself"
Author	Kamaloso
Upvotes	10
Comments	34
Date	January 3, 2022 6:51 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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