When Red meets Blue

alreadyredschool · 2017-01-23T02:45:32+00:00

This doesn't sound really new. You need value to give others value. Covered in rp alpha stuff. You should elevate everyone around you to your level.

MorpheusGodOfDreams · 2017-01-23T06:19:17+00:00

My mantra is "balance".

Except that the final level of TRP is exactly this balance based on the fundamental understanding that Men and Women are DIFFERENT.

TRP explains that LTRs naturally require a man to inject a bit of beta.

The issue affecting the absolute largest amount of men (i.e. your exact clientele) is that they have been brainwashed with an extremist nature over nurture blank slate bullshit marxist ideology.

Most of them will NEVER get to the point of even balancing or calibrating, because women will not give them the chance. They are that beta, that Blue.

Women have options, which means that large amounts of men are being left in the cold.

This leaves them vulnerable for additional marxist brainwashing that tells them "oh, you poor thing. You are so unique, you don't have to fall into those evil patriarchal gender roles! You can be an ally (traitor) in the gender war!"

Any smart dating coach would recognize the importance of an initial impression, and thus focus their teaching to lean hard towards the blood red basics of TRP. Gotta smash that pedestal, focus on the self, and grow a fucking spine.

BrownEyedENFP · 2017-01-23T02:27:54+00:00

I'm a dating coach

I have a PHD in womanology and a bachelor in agriculture(I specialise in bullshit)

BP mentality, on the other hand, is all about selflessness

Am BP, am selfish

Put the good parts of the two pills together

See you can't do that, because anything that works is automatically reserved as Red Pilled Alpha Male advice and anything that does not work is all Blue Pill Brainwashing propaganda.

usernameras · 2017-01-23T10:33:32+00:00

RP love says "I love you, but I don't need you." And that's a much healthier perspective because you're maintaining your sense of independence. Love needs a strong dash of fearlessness to exist. When you no longer fear, things like speaking your mind, believing in yourself, leading your relationships, and following your desires, all become much easier to exude or obtain

And why do you imply that applies only to men when it applies to women too?

I used my hatred of women

Like clockwork. Hating women is unattractive.

I'm also an advocate for men who just want to have fun

But not an advocate for women who just want to have fun, eh. That means your "suggestions" are going to be harmful to women, and women should learn about them so they can avoid those who attempt to enact them, for their own good.

Also wow, 100$ to get your inbox spammed with shit you can find for free on the internet. That's some Nigerian prince-level scam.

wub1234 · 2017-01-23T02:33:07+00:00

If you're a dating coach then what advice would you give to an introvert?

I've already heard:

Go somewhere really loud and noisy and hit on loads of women.

Constantly approach women during the day.

Expand your social circle.

Lift lots of weights.

i_have_a_semicolon · 2017-01-23T04:50:42+00:00

I can't debate you since I agree with everything you said.

Lyanina · 2017-01-23T06:42:34+00:00

So how are we defining what counts as "BP love" and "RP love" here? I don't need my partner, I choose to be with him -- does that make it RP love? Nope, it doesn't work that way.

The thing is, I think you have some good (if obvious and generally accepted) points here. Of course selflessness and self-respect are both needed, of course needing someone because you don't love yourself is unhealthy. But the way you felt the need to label things as BP and RP ruins it.

Put the good parts of the two pills together, and you create a well-balanced individual.

This is going to be the Beta Fucks/High Beta thing again, isn't it?

exit_sandman · 2017-01-23T09:20:41+00:00

However, I have yet to encounter a mature post stating you need to be an asshole, or that you need to treat women like garbage in order to get the results you want.

You're welcome.

goatismycopilot · 2017-01-23T11:25:01+00:00

A few thoughts. I notice you Op did not participate in the thread. So basically, this post was a free ad for your services. I notice you said you are an advocate for men to have fun and dating should be fun and exciting while relationships are just comforting. Here is what I do not understand, if you are a dating coach whose primary goal is to help men get laid why not just say so? The TRP dudes say some mean ass things about women but at least they are honest. You are wrapping it up and calling yourself a "coach" so what do you charge for your services if a man comes to you wanting to increase the fun in his life?

goatismycopilot · 2017-01-23T14:27:40+00:00

I reported this BS. Whoever this toad is, he is just blathering on trying to attract somebody to his ridiculous "gentleman's coach.com" as if there were not already eight trillion dating coaches aimed at men and women trying to suck money out of them promising the sky and fleecing their pockets. Soft marketing/advertising like this bugs me more than men saying shitty things about me/women. The OP has no intention of engaging he does not have enough money to do real marketing, he probably came up with this half assed dating coach idea while high, and like every other idiot thinks he is going to be the next Tony Robbins.

LittleWindowpane · 2017-01-23T02:23:40+00:00

OK, I agree: my main problem with TRP was the 10 percent of toxic, sexist garbage they had in there. Chuck that, replace it with some ethical guidance from Stoicism or something, and they wouldn't have something that's so dangerous and objectionable: the "Full Dark Triad Bro" crap is like a nerd playing at being a tough guy. Not gonna work.

SkinnySweaty · 2017-01-23T03:38:25+00:00

You have created a False Dichotomy here with red pill and blue pill.

Stop discussing everything in these absolute values. There are a TON of us blue pill folks who do not fit into the neat little boxes you have designed for us. That's for starters.

You've created a neat little model here, but like all neat little models, when they hit reality they don't fit.

Blue Pill is simply opposed to the sexism and misogyny of red pill (something you know a lot about). Anything else you think about us is just projection.

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Entropy-7 · 2017-01-23T08:40:25+00:00

I recall someone saying that if you want to be a movie producer then just say you are; perhaps "dating coach" is the same.

BP is not about selflessness. They are self-centric about all sorts of things. Granted, only a few RP men will think beyond themselves but you can't use that as a metric.

Anything "unconditional" is a recipe for disaster.

matrixpush · 2017-01-23T11:30:27+00:00

Red pill basically says lift all day long or feign a dark triad persona when that's not you

Blue pill says just be yourself no matter boring you are lol

Most "red pill" guys were formerly blue pill. The valley between naturally red-pill & those who became red-pill later on is basically the grand canyon. So much red pill is focused on overcorrection.

Naturally red pill is still, & will always be a secret society understood by very few, the interesting thing, it's not even gender specific. Current red pill doesn't understand that, they're too busy re-packaging a modern version David DeAngelo's cocky funny routine when they're not lifting or praising Trump, lol.

statsfodder · 2017-01-23T02:40:05+00:00

I'm a dating coach

So now PPD is allowing advertising.

BP mentality, on the other hand, is all about selflessness

BP mentality, on the other hand, is all about ~~selflessness~~ boundaries.

If my girlfriend decides to disrespect me or tries to card me some type of power play, I do not hesitate to remind her that I am the masculine energy in our relationship, and not her subservient. I do not hesitate to speak my mind if my opinions are challenged

If you have to remind her or speak your mind or she's challenging your opinions, you're not dominant in the relationship, dude.

BP love is very unhealthy. It says "Since I do not love myself, I need you to love me, so I'm putting your needs ahead of mine."

BP love is very ~~unhealthy~~ healthy. It says "Since I do ~~not~~ love myself, ~~I need you to love me, so I'm putting your needs ahead of mine~~ I'm in a place where I can love you, too."

pleeskeen · 2017-01-23T12:48:00+00:00

Man, I have a life philosophy that is pretty similiar to yours. I do believe that in balance there is truth, but the fact is, that what lies in unbalance is not a lie (cit.)

I think that in our modern western society, you can't really "be yourself". You have to put a minimum amount of effort in what people call "social skills" if you want to have success in a professional or social environment, and I'm one of those kind of people who always rejected any kind of social construct. There is a extremely high level of competition for everything: work, love, even just hobbies sometimes.

But still I think that there isn't "one way" of doing things.

I feel like the core point of TRP is just surviving in a society that is culturally on the edge of an abyss, and you can see that everywhere, just reading the news, or noticing how people interact between each other, especially in man-woman interaction. There is no space for "being yourself" if your true self is a horrible person.

I think that this post is still too idealistic, but I can relate to some parts of it.

Princeso_Bubblegum · 2017-01-23T03:24:50+00:00

Do you ever get a rash from sitting on that fence?

Title	When Red meets Blue
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Date	January 23, 2017 2:21 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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