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Would you date a former/current stripper? A former/current porn actor? A former/current prostitute? Why or why not?

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Title Would you date a former/current stripper? A former/current porn actor? A former/current prostitute? Why or why not?
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Date January 1, 2015 12:28 AM UTC
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[–]SirNemesistitties not tithe15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, no, and no. Ewwwwww.

Just the thought of this is so disgusting. I'm going to go deflower a virgin to shake off this disgust.

[–]jacks100011 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No.

Why? For obvious reasons. Who wants to marry a whore?

[–]AerobusThe Red Pill is Truth15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, no, no, none are relationship material in my eyes.

[–]ECoast_ManRed Pill Man14 points15 points16 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No.

Explanation is not required.

[–]VarsitySlutTeamCptI'm on mobile.5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No because of the environment they come from.

[–]give_me_shinieshere for the bants2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Gross. No way.

[–]AryaBarzanProud Fat/Slut Shamer1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Only men with very low SMV would settle for any of these mega-sluts. These women are great for using for sex when they're still young, though.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Their past sexual history wouldn't bother me, but being a sex worker would be a red flag for me to watch out for emotional/childhood/addiction/mental problems. I'm not saying ALL sex workers have issues, but I'd be willing to bet a good portion of them do. If I honestly found a balanced person that was a former sex worker and a good fit, I think I could deal with it.

[–]waylandertheslayer-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Quite a sensible response, I think. I agree that while being a sex worker sends up red flags galore, if you know that a specific sex worker doesn't have them, it's not as much of an issue. That said, for me it would still be a dealbreaker for an LTR+

[–]Christian_Kong80% Natural Red2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would probably fwb but never date. I tend to try to date away from the people who yell "I make shitty/terrible life decisions."

I've known some strippers, a few "Suicide Girls" and probably a few prostitutes. They are all a blast to hang out with but they are terrible to their SO's, fwbs and whatnot.

[–]cxj75% Redpill Core Ideas0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Have fwb with a stripper before.

NEVER AGAIN

[–]98769876987698767[S] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why?

[–]cxj75% Redpill Core Ideas3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Critical mass crazy. If there was ever a demographic of girls that conformed to TRP absolutes, it would undoubtedly be strippers. In my experience they respond only to pure alpha asshole game. Fine ass bodies doe. And the sex is great, you can do whatever you want to them and they'll love it. Still not worth having to go out all the time, fend off tactical nuke shit tests or deal with their degenerate social circle imo.

[–]buarthaDelights in homosexuality0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No to any of the above for current, yes to any of the above for former.

Unless I knew them very, very well though, I'd want them to have a history of long term monogamous (~2+) year relationships that they didn't cheat or leave their partner for someone else during, post porn/sex-work/stripping. I'd also like evidence that they're capable of holding a steady job that doesn't involve anything in that realm.

I'm a firm believer that people can move on from their past, but if I can't see proof of effort to do so, I'm unlikely to be interested romantically.

[–]BakerofpieRed Pill Woman3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Woman: stripper whether former or current is fine. Maybe even a plus, but that depends. No on prostitutes or porn stars. Being a stripper is putting her boobs in some guys' faces and going home for the night. No big.

Man: no, no, and no. In theory I wouldn't mind a man stripping, I just have never found a male stripper remotely attractive. Their bodies usually gross me out if anything.

[–]AFormidableContenderPurple Pill Man1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Are you saying you don't like the appearance of highly muscled guys? I have never really believed that. I heard someone say once how amazing it must be for women to have sex with jacked pornstar looking guys and how after doing it, it must be pretty much impossible to have sex with anyone else who isn't similar jacked because they'd be so lame, and that stuck with me ever since.

[–]BakerofpieRed Pill Woman0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

If you saw my response looking at a ripped dude like that you would believe me. It is a visceral disgust. I'm grossed out just thinking about it. A dude with huge muscles is gross to me like a land whale is to most men. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate some muscle definition, but think Bruce Lee and not Vin Diesel. Skinny dudes with muscle tone are hot as hell.

[–]AFormidableContenderPurple Pill Man0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

What about it would be gross? The bigger the muscles, the more naturally able he would be to protect you and your hypothetical genetic Bakerofpie replica

[–]BakerofpieRed Pill Woman0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I really don't know. There's zero logical reason for me to find it gross, I just find it extremely unattractive visually. Maybe part of it is that I am quite tiny and I like the idea of possibly having kids that at least somewhat look like me, but that's just an attempt to rationalize a feeling that existed regardless.

[–]AFormidableContenderPurple Pill Man0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Weirdo.

Jk. I want pie.

[–]BakerofpieRed Pill Woman0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I should have known this name would haunt me for the rest of my reddit life.

[–]AFormidableContenderPurple Pill Man0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But you're so recognizable. :)

I'm surprised you're not a novelty mod by now.

[–]angelicahah0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i think women in general like BIG guys, that gives the impression of "man who can take care of me", but not necessairily like the highly visible muscles like a six pack.

I'll give you an example http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss184/PetersRose/14mar_till2.jpg

this dude used to be a bit more toned when he was younger (till lindemann if you're curious) but never had the super defined muscles, you see now he has no tone but it's still a BIG guy (can't probably tell from this pic)

here's another one http://media2.popsugar-assets.com/files/2013/01/03/5/485/4852708/71ba8fc2d29b85fd_spl450902_014.xxxlarge/i/Jon-Hamm.jpg

the manlyness is given by the hair on the chest and the fact that he's still a somewhat big guy , compared to me at least.

I'd take any of those man over let's say this https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/d6/d4/39/d6d439c67df1bc5e314486deeff6ca02.jpg

this guy looks like he'd go back to being a tiny dude if he stopped hitting the gym, the other two will always look manly.

I do admire though the dedication it takes to have that kind of body so i'd say "wow impressive, but no thanks"

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

We see muscular, shirtless guys in the media all the time. I could see how it might get desensitizing after a while, the same way that some men prefer women who are imperfectly curvy, rather than modelesque. I personally don't find highly muscled guys attractive in a sexual sense.

[–]AFormidableContenderPurple Pill Man3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

At the same time, we see Megan Fox or Olivia Wilde in the media all the time and no one is deciding they don't wanna fuck them. Attractive is attractive.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It more rare to see a topless, attractive woman than it is to see a topless, attractive man in everyday life outside of porn. I think there's still more of a mystery to female sexuality and that's why people don't get desensitized. Besides, I know guys who are not interested in Megan Fox because she looks like many of the other skinny, tall, silky haired, plump lipped celebrities.

[–]AFormidableContenderPurple Pill Man1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't agree with your premise. If anything, nudity and breasts are becoming extremely blaise in american society and media. Game of Thrones which is the most popular show on TV at the moment has boobs in every other scene for the sake of having boobs. Marco Polo which I just watched which is a miniseries about a horrifically historically inaccurate take on Marco Polo did the same thing; Boobs everywhere.

People don't give a fuck about boobs. Boobs aren't even censured in the UK. You see boobs on reality TV regularly.

[–]wombatinaburrowfeminist marsupial-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The kind of overmuscled guys you see on "manpower" type shows are a bit of a niche market. Many women prefer a Jarvis Cocker, Kelly Slater, James Blunt or even a Jack Black to a guy who spends more time in front of a mirror at the gym perving at himself than actually doing something productive.

[–]AFormidableContenderPurple Pill Man1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Great mental image

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

you know, if they were someone that I was really into and happened to be a stripper... I don't see why not. I remember growing up with the mindset that strippers were 'bad' but then I actually got to know some of them and as it turns out, they're just as human as anyone else. I've never met any male strippers or porn stars/sex workers of any kind, but I assume my findings would be the same. no need to dehumanize them; I regret that I ever thought so poorly of strippers, and I resolved not to place that kind of judgment on strippers or sex industry workers just because of their profession moving forward.

that being said... I don't know that I could so easily be in a relationship with a sex worker/porn star. I don't like porn in general (personally) and the idea of being with someone who regularly sleeps with other people would be painful for me. we could still be great friends though! ha.

[+]98769876987698767[S] -6 points-5 points-4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I agree, I might be down to date a stripper, maybe. If she was hot enough.

[–]cxj75% Redpill Core Ideas3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well if shes a stripper she most likely is hot enough. Its her crazy you have to worry about

[–]AerobusThe Red Pill is Truth2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep. The hot crazy matrix places strippers in the danger zone. Very accurate.

[–]AFormidableContenderPurple Pill Man0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've known quite a few strippers, and at least one prostitute. I would date them. I would never in a million years expect fidelity. If I came home one day and caught her sucking some dudes dick, it'd be like "Oh. Yea. That makes sense. K, bye".

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Date? For sure, that's damn hot. Actually getting emotionally invested to the point of considering marriage? No, never.

[–]Sheaf_of_Reality 1 points1 points1 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Relevant: http://www.cracked.com/article_20734_5-myths-about-prostitutes-i-believed-until-i-was-one.html I see no reason to disconsider dating someone just because their job involves sex. Sure, most of them are at high risk for STDs, but the porn/prostitution industries are tightly regulated due to the fear of spreading said diseases. Sex is a deeply ingrained urge, which means that prostitution is probably the oldest job in the world. As long as we want sex, we will have sex workers. It's best to treat them as the human beings that they are.

[–]jacks10009 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

TheBluePill: the Marketing Department for Sluts, Inc.

Literally

[–]GridReXXit be like that-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Says the guy waving the flag for a sub about getting sex with as many people as possible. Cute.

[–]jacks10004 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Says the guy waving the flag for a sub about getting sex with as many people as possible. Cute.

I have no idea what you are lying about now...

[–]98769876987698767[S] 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just because they are a human doesn't mean I want to date them though.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah sure, why not? I don't see myself ever dating a prostitute because that says something about their socioeconomic status but the sexual part doesn't really bother me.

[–]17b29a2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice hypergamy

[–]mymatemooseyI am Blu-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If I was into them, liked their personality and things, I don't see why not. I've got friends who are strippers, and they are some of the kindest, most selfless girls I know. It just so happens they worked out they can get paid very very well to take their clothes off.

I have very mixed feelings about the whole sex industry, as I think even if someone has a whole lot of self respect and their head screwed on right and they're just in there for easy money, it's a whole industry that feeds off insecurity and taking advantage of terrible situations. But that's my issue with the industry, not the individual person.

[–]98769876987698767[S] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I like the careful wording as to not offend anyone. But it seems like you consider prostitutes and porn actors as simply romantically incompatible.

[–]mymatemooseyI am Blu-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If that's what's implied it's not at all what I meant! What I mean is I despise everything about the sex industry. That doesn't mean the people within it are inherently flawed. I could absolutely see myself in a relationship with a prostitute or porn actor, if I liked them, just as I could see myself with a teacher, or lawyer, or nurse, or accountant, if I liked them. The job doesn't change that at all. The only reason I hadn't mentioned them was because I haven't personally met anyone involved in those jobs, whereas I know some strippers very well.

[–]17b29a-4 points-3 points-2 points 11 years ago (106 children) | Copy Link

sure thing yo

[–]98769876987698767[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (105 children) | Copy Link

You really would? I'm just asking because your answer seems sarcastic.

[–]17b29a-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (104 children) | Copy Link

yea why not

[–]98769876987698767[S] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (103 children) | Copy Link

Well some people wouldn't date a prostitute, but good on you!

[+]17b29a-6 points-5 points-4 points 11 years ago (102 children) | Copy Link

yeah insecure idiots they are, rifk

[–]jacks100012 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

yeah insecure idiots they are, rifk

Don't want to marry a prostitute?

You're just "insecure."

"Insecure" is the Blue Pill go-to line. That is what they call anyone and everyone that doesn't agree with them.

If you aren't participating in a poly-amorous, bisexual orgy, complete with bondage and "pegging" - you're just "insecure."

It's all pretty transparent and laughable, isn't it? TheBluePill is a joke - outside of something like reddit, these people would never be taken seriously.

[–]VarsitySlutTeamCptI'm on mobile.10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If youre getting cuckholded and your mad about it, you're insecure.

If you dont want to raise another man's child, you're insecure.

If youre SO tries to open up the relationship which you don't want, you're insecure.

So on and so forth.

[–]jacks10006 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Unless you are literally being sodomized by a black lesbian with a strap-on, you're "insecure" - and racist! And sexist and homophobic!

That is pretty much "progressivism" in a nutshell.

Again, outside of the far-left echo chamber that is reddit, these people would just be laughed at.

[–]callmesir35-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"the far left echo chamber that is reddit" hahaha.

Where could you possibly live: Afghanistan? Moldova?

[–]17b29a-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

you sound p insecure, tbh

[–]jacks10008 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

you sound p insecure, tbh

Who didn't see that one coming?

[–]17b29a-3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

it's nothing to be upset about hun

[–]jacks10006 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

it's nothing to be upset about hun

It is something to be amused by, however.

"Progressive" social justice warriors are like the comedy gift that keeps on giving.

Please, continue...

[–]98769876987698767[S] 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (93 children) | Copy Link

So you are saying that the only reason someone wouldn't want to date a prostitute is because they are insecure? Lol looks like I found the prostitute

[–]17b29a-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (92 children) | Copy Link

sex worker, please

[–]98769876987698767[S] 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (54 children) | Copy Link

Why do you think that insecurity is the only reason that people would not want to date a prostitute? I seriously want to know.

[–]17b29a-3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (53 children) | Copy Link

Because there are no other reasons

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I'm curious here, would you be able to answer a few questions as honestly as you feel comfortable with? I haven't spoken to many sex workers, but the ones I have come into contact with are invariably pretty damaged individuals.

  1. Have you ever been sexually assaulted or abused, either during the course of your work, or prior to? This includes rape, molestation, etc.

  2. How many people had you slept with prior to becoming a sex worker?

  3. Ever used drugs? Which ones and to what extent?

  4. What value do you place on sex? If you could elaborate on this answer it would be helpful.

  5. How do you reconcile your work with relationships? What do you consider to be cheating?

  6. Do you have any regrets regarding your chosen profession?

  7. What is the reason you chose to go into sex work?

I'll be honest with you, I would never date a sex worker because it sends up a huge number of red flags regarding lack of impulse control, low regard for sex and relationships in general, and a lack of long term loyalty. I.e. if you can be mercenary when it comes to sex, where is the line drawn? In this thread alone, you've indicated family relationship issues (you no longer talk to your father) and you became defensive regarding the use of the term prostitute. Both of those (daddy issues, defensiveness) are generally red flags on their own.

[–]98769876987698767[S] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (47 children) | Copy Link

Well for me personally, I think it is unattractive that a woman is selling her body. That's just me though. Do you think all women who aren't insecure would date a male prostitute?

[–]M_rafayCrimson Red3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (36 children) | Copy Link

wtf

you're a 16 year old prostitute?

You did say you were 16 and a virgin elsewhere right?

[–]17b29a-4 points-3 points-2 points 11 years ago (35 children) | Copy Link

so wat

[–]M_rafayCrimson Red0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (33 children) | Copy Link

On the one hand, i'm in japan so i can't say that's unbelievable.

but ive never talked to one before...

... do you know its immensely illegal? There is a minimum legal age for prostitution and 16 is not it. Anywhere. Every single one of your clients is liable to a jail sentence. You are also going to get your parents/guardians in a fuckload of trouble. And this is going to follow you for the rest of your life, unlike ordinary sex workers, because you are going to be charged with something far more serious.

Legal methods to get help if you get hurt or fucked over by a client are also going to trigger the above consequences. You honestly do not need the money as much as you need to stop doing what you're doing.

edit; either that or you're trolling me. but you actually sound like a prostitute so i can actually buy your stor. i used to think you just read like a weird 16 year old. now i kinda think the weirdness definitely resembles 16 year old prostitute.

[–]powerkickPoly, Bi, Blue, Betafag-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't date them BECAUSE they would be a stripper/porn star/prostitute, but if we met and had a tendency to hit it off and get along, I'd give it a try like dating anyone else.

[–]wombatinaburrowfeminist marsupial-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

A couple of my girlfriends worked as escorts to put themselves through university. They are both now married with kids and mortgages.

[–]98769876987698767[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Do the husbands know? Would they care?

[–]wombatinaburrowfeminist marsupial-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Yes they know, no they don't care. Needs must when you're a starving student, and dressing up and being a paid date or some guy's +1 at a corporate function is much better cash than pulling pints.

[–]98769876987698767[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Did they have sex with the men they escorted?

[–]wombatinaburrowfeminist marsupial-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Infrequently. Escort work is more "arm candy" than sex, although sex can be negotiated for an additional fee.

[–]98769876987698767[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Do the husbands know that their wives were former prostitutes? That they actually had sex for money?

[–]wombatinaburrowfeminist marsupial-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Where do you draw the line between "escort" and" prostitute"?

[–]98769876987698767[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

If you have sex with the person you are "escorting," you are a prostitute. Again, do the husbands know that they have had sex for money?

[–]wombatinaburrowfeminist marsupial-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes. I thought I had answered that already?

[–]98769876987698767[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well the way you phrased it downplayed the fact that they actually had sex for money. As if the husbands only thought that they literally escorted men and nothing else.

[–]GridReXXit be like that-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe a former stripper?

I wouldn't go out of my way to date a former any of those. But if I fell for them first. That's a different story.

[–]wazzup987Blue pill, you can beat me black & blue for it later[🍰] -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah sure, not because of there profession mind you but it wouldn't bother me really.

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