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CARNEGIE, Okla. - An Oklahoma teacher has been charged with second-degree rape, accused of having sex with a 16-year-old student. According to court documents the teacher was employed at Carnegie Public Schools as a special education teacher when she began a relationship with a 16-year-old student.

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Title CARNEGIE, Okla. - An Oklahoma teacher has been charged with second-degree rape, accused of having sex with a 16-year-old student. According to court documents the teacher was employed at Carnegie Public Schools as a special education teacher when she began a relationship with a 16-year-old student.
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Comments

[–]DeesABird40 366 points367 points368 points 5 years ago (84 children) | Copy Link

I know there will be the same jokes made here but why does this happen so often??

[–]RicardoMultiball 138 points139 points140 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Serious answer: one theory is that it was under-reported, and under-investigated, for a long time. And now that smart phones and social media have given students or parents the power to publicize and/or prove alleged crimes of this nature, school administrators and law enforcement officials take such allegations more seriously than before.

A supporting theory to add to the first: the normalization of teens "friending" adults (or vise versa) on social media, and those interactions leading to inappropriate personal communications and worse, has played a part in some of these cases. Not that students and teachers didn't mingle socially back in the day, but getting likes, loves and IM bubbles from seemingly-harmless adults as a teen wasn't something most teens experienced (or had to deal with) before the advent of social media and smartphones.

[–]Frigoris13 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Why does it have to be this way where we either have adults only existing as authority figures casting punishment or they're creepy pervs that rape minors? Why can't adults just be mentors to minors and sleep with consenting adults and keep those two lives separate?

[–]5318008rool 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Uhhh. The vast majority of adults sleep with other consenting adults, and, in some cases, even mentor minors. Sure, there are shitty people in the world, but not every authority figure is an abusive asshole and not every “nice” adult is a pedo.... not even a majority... probably not even a large percentage in the scheme of things.. don’t project fringe behavior as the norm.

[–]Frigoris13 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, you're right. But I guess I just don't understand how it could so far in either direction - that people push it so far. I suppose it's good I don't comprehend it because that would illude to me having moral standards and empathy toward others. But there are adults who don't and that unsettles me.

[–]just_some_guy8484 216 points217 points218 points 5 years ago (63 children) | Copy Link

People who make jokes are part of the problem. It's why people never take a female teacher raping their male students seriously and why there is such a double standard when the genders are reversed. Rape is rape. Period.

[–]bl00j 130 points131 points132 points 5 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, the headline is shit too. Says she began a relationship??? Nah, she began raping children. Scum.

[–]JawTn1067 43 points44 points45 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Began grooming with the intent to rape. Just a little more accurate.

[–]GentleChaoticNuetral 19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

I mean, title says she’s charged with rape so it’s not wrong.

[–]bl00j 18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

Its wrong to call rape a relationship in any way.

[–]GentleChaoticNuetral 21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

It’s a relationship in which she raped a 16 yo. Title isn’t inherently wrong. It suggests it happened more than once over a period of time these two people have associated with each other. It is by definition a relationship. A fucked up and illegal one yes but still some kind of relationship.

[+]bl00j -20 points-19 points-18 points 5 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

I fixed the headline in my 1st comment. Thanks for your opinion, but I'm still right. Headline is shit.

[–]BurningHotels 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Agreed. For confirmation, go and look at headlines when its a male teacher assaulting a student vs a female teacher. With a male teacher the keywords are "rape, assault" and with a female teacher they're "had sex with, sex, relationship". Fucking gross.

[–]bl00j 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly

[–]thewinneristod 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

No, your reading comprehension is shit. They began a relationship. Then she began to rape him. Don't be a fucking moron.

[–]bl00j -5 points-4 points-3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Fuck off with your pettiness. Shes a rapist. That is all.

[–]NoctuaPavor 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No shit no one's arguing that dumby

[–]systemshock869 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

They never said it wasn't technically correct. A man would only get language like rape, assault, grooming. Society still coddles women, even when they're actually being charged. Really the only excuse for this language I could see was if she was no longer employed by that administration when it happened, which the language suggests. Still should use something more negative. Egalitarianism is not equality.

[–]thewinneristod -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The language used in the title is correct. Anyone, whether they be male or female, should be accused of/alleged of a crime until they're found guilry. It's not how it bears out, but it's correct.

[–]BaldrTheGood 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Oklahoma Teacher Accused Of 2nd Degree Rape Makes Court Appearance

How is that headline shit? The actual headline doesn’t say anything about a relationship

The Reddit title also says it was rape, and describes their relationship. Which it was. Because a relationship is “the way in which two or more concepts, objects, or people are connected, or the state of being connected”

So those two people are connected because the teacher raped the student. That’s their relationship.

Just because you don’t understand words doesn’t mean you can just tell people that facts are their opinion and act like your opinion is fact.

[–]bl00j -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Accused of having sex? Its rape. Began a relationship with a 16 year old? Rape. I understand completely. This headline is shit.

[–]deiterbug 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You’re being quite argumentative about the English language for someone so uneducated on the language...

[–]BaldrTheGood 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The headline doesn’t say the word relationship. The post title does.

The connection between two people is their relationship.

The headline isn’t shit, your understanding of the English language is.

[–]Spoon_Elemental 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The word "relationship" is a neutral word and doesn't necessarily have to imply a romantic situation. A rapist and a rape victim is still a form of relationship. If one were to say "The relationship between sharks and tuna is that of a predator and prey." most people wouldn't immediately think that it's a romantic situation between a shark and a tuna because the statement clarifies the type of relationship. When you associate with somebody or something in any way you have a relationship with it.

[–]Spoon_Elemental 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The actual article doesn't say that. It just says she's being charged with second degree rape. And even on the post here it leads with calling it rape.

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like they had the same intelligence level, so I don't see it quite as imbalanced as you do.

[–]Mick_Donalds 39 points40 points41 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Go on a Facebook post and read the comments.

It's all bearded simps saying "hurr hurr how come mah teechur never did this? Hurr hurr"

Completely toxic. The way men give women a pussypass for literal rape and sexual abuse "Cuz it's cool, maaannn!"

[+]Couchpotato1999 -21 points-20 points-19 points 5 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

Rape is unacceptable, but I seriously wish I had a hot teacher like this in high school. Hey it’s not considered rape if you want to bang her too !

If I was able to bang a hot teacher in high school, I guarantee you I would not have been traumatized, lol.

[–]Wrath7heFurious 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

I mean, I think this is a real conversation. Not trying to be funny, just honest. I like many people in America, or maybe just is prides in Florida, I lost my virginity at 15, to a senior at my school, she was 18, I also told her I was 16 cuz reasons. Year later I was sleeping with a girl who was 14 and I was 16 for reals this time, and the 14 year old was much freakier, or should I say sexually inclined, than the 18 yr old. All I'm saying is kids at that age, many of my peers, were all sexually active. Yes I was still a kid and a dumbass, hell I'm still one of those things, but I KNEW what I was doing.

This may not be everyone's belief, and yes sometimes adults take advantage of kids but when I was 16 my neighbor asked me to help her move a couch. She was 36. I obliged and then she asked me for some weed I had weed so I sold her some then she said, "oh don't worry you're going to get this pussy" I was shocked, surprised but also intrigued. I didn't know if I should but I kind of wanted to so I did. It was cool. she never bothered me afterwards or made me do anything I didn't want to do. We never really hung out after that but we always said hi to each other. If I could go back in time I would definitely do it again but harder and faster. And then I would turn to the side and do it like this boom boom boom.

I also think would I be upset if something like this happened to my son. Well I would talk to him about it I would try to gauge the situation and I think my son talks to me about most things so if something like this came to light I think he can honestly tell me if he was taking advantage of or if he was a willing participant which would influence whether or not I wanted to press charges and then most of these cases I don't think it's the parents who press charges I think once it comes to light the state or maybe the school press charges I'm not sure but I just think this isn't all cut and dry and it's not like this lady is like the devil. Yes maybe a bad and f***** up individual but there is a lot more to this situation that plays A part. Now again if it was a female student and a male teacher automatically so many people look bad at it but during my time of browsing Reddit I've seen lots of stories of female kids who had crushes on professors or teachers and made it a very awkward situation for the adult. Now that I'm older I just think you can give more credence to what teenagers are capable of.

[+]Capudog1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Excuse me but I'm afraid that you are not the norm.

[–]Fakercel 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This literally adds nothing to the discussion

'Conform your ideas to the norm'

[–]FantasticStock 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Uh..../s?

[–]Mick_Donalds 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

^ comments like these are the problem. You're part of the problem and the reason why these rapists are let off with nothing more than a slap on the wrist and a "well try not to indulge young boys' fantasies, okayyyyy?" stern warning by cuck judges and courts.

"Well of course we should punish Male teachers for engaging in sex with underage female students!! Oh man, I wish my hawt female teacher would have sodomized me, LOL!!!!'

[–]Professor-Wheatbox 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey it’s not considered rape if you want to bang her too !

It literally, legally is because that child is not an adult and thus cannot consent

[–]Deathstrike30001 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

I watched a documentary where it showed that Mary Kay Letournea and he victim turned fiancé (he was an adult by then) received a bunch of letters from other people. The letters showed sympathy and acceptance towards the engaged couple. In one of them, a man wrote that he and his wife were on her side from the start.

[–]just_some_guy8484 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

.....Jesus

[–]LanceLynxx 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

Making jokes doesn't make rape acceptable: non sequitur.

[–]just_some_guy8484 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

Care to explain why female teachers who rape their students always get far lighter sentences than male teachers who rape their female students?

[–]LanceLynxx 22 points23 points24 points 5 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

Because justice isn't just. Sentences are given by judges, who are biased in favor of females in cases of violent crime against males.

Not because of jokes; but because of personal bias of judges.

[–]JonathonWally 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thankfully female judges tend to give scum like this woman harsher sentences.

[–]LanceLynxx -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We can only hope sexism slowly withers away from the government institutions as new generations fill the ranks

[–]hb76356[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

And you don't think cultural norms, like it being ok to joke about female teachers raping students, contribute to this bias. Biases don't form in a bubble.

[–]LanceLynxx 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I don't think jokes contribute to it, but giving a free pass, on the other hand, does.

Most biases do form in a bubble, by the way. Which is people that live in bubbles and closed communities tend to be a lot more prejudiced, bigoted, and biased. When you're exposed to different viewpoints, you have more information from which to draw conclusions from.

Classic example are macho fathers teaching their male children to not do things considered unmanly or effeminate, like showing emotions or crying.

There's nothing wrong about making jokes. There's everything wrong in letting things slide and people go unpunished.

Which is why laws need to be as objective as possible to rely as little as possible on subjective judgements of judges and justices.

[–]hb76356[🍰] -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think the issue is the normalizing of certain things also, except I think minimizing their importance by joking about it is a key factor. It's how perpetrators get away with these things, it's not seen as serious. "I wish my hot teacher..."

On the other hand, the hipocracy is amazing. All through school it was put in our heads that girls mature faster than boys, they're more responsible, etc. But let a RUMOR get started a male teacher was hooking up with a female student and he's done, true or not.

All these things develop from the culture and the many facets that it contains. I think our comedic/dismissive way of treating this subject is part and parcel.

[–]LanceLynxx -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think it's more of a consequence than a cause. If anything, it's also a way of making fun of the hypocrisy.

[–]hb76356[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would like to think it's mocking, but then you see that they always get a slap on the wrist and no one cares. I think a lot of truth is said in jest and those people really just don't care

[+]just_some_guy8484 -8 points-7 points-6 points 5 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

And where does that bias come from?

[–]LanceLynxx 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

From bad parenthood and home education to teach that people are equally victims to all wrongdoings regardless of their sex. Most of these values and judgement are taught and not inherent.

[+]just_some_guy8484 -9 points-8 points-7 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Partially. It also comes from people who make jokes that assuage the very real crime of female teachers raping their male students. If your initial reaction to this article isn't pure disgust and a desire to seek justice, but rather to make jokes about it, then yes, you are part of the problem.

[–]Lumator 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It could be argued that jokes are more the consequence of the bias, not the cause of it. These jokes and the lighter sentencing could come from the same source.

Imho the problem is complex because we are often “indocttinated” by society, and society has created this biases for ages; women were ofren viewed as “protected” because in the first small human groups, if a woman died the reproductive capabilities for the village were severly handicapped, whereas when men died, his genetic material is lost but the reproductive capabilites of the villaged remained mostly the same.

This was the reason women stayed as caretakers and men risked they lives for their peers; this in turn infantilized the image of women in society, as women weren’t exposed to the horrors men used to and were often seen as more inocent and pure for the same reason; translate that to modern times and society still sees women as less capable for violence and malice, and add to that the concept of “motherhood”, which people regard as sacred and special, and you end up with a society that often assumes the best intentions of women.

[–]LanceLynxx 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Precisely this. Women were always treated as weaker than men, so when men get beat up or abused, it's seen as not as bad because men are strong and women are weak. You can see this every time a woman punches a man, nobody does anything, but the moment the man retaliates, bystanders will try to stop it.

We informally call this "the pussy pass" and it works at all levels of society, including institutions that are supposed to treat everyone equally.

[–]just_some_guy8484 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Fair points. So the goal should be for society and the justice system to shed these abhorrent biases that in today's world result in these double standards.

[–]LanceLynxx 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

No, it does not. Jokes are just that: jokes. they are not an argument in favor of sexual abuse.

Jokes are used to cause humour for some people precisely due to the fact of abuse being a horrible thing.

Jokes are not arguments in favor of sexual abuse.

[–]ComprehensivePoint711 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Nobody said they were. But they're a measure of societies opinions on things. Women raping boys is just a big funny joke in our society...and the sentences reflect that. Its not some deep-state anti-male conspiracy.

[–]just_some_guy8484 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I simply disagree. This is a widespread issue across the country and the fact that the justice system buys into it as well only ignores that fact. Making light by joking about this issue only exacerbates the problem and it's why it will continue to NOT be taken seriously by the masses.

[–]HappyHound -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"Non sequitur" means "doesn't follow", so I don't understand you're comment.

[–]LanceLynxx 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It means that making jokes does not make rape acceptable.

A does not lead to B. Non sequitur.

[–]_dark_wolf_333 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Where were teachers like this when I was young?

[–]JawTn1067 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same places we just didn’t have color tv gramps

[–]MBT1953 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not according to Whoopie Goldberg.

[–]Trainpower10 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

South Park brought attention to this issue on that episode where Ike’s kindergarten teacher starts a relationship with him

[–]Lupin_The_Fourth 30 points31 points32 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Attraction to minors is not limited to men as it happens in women as well. These people often search for work in fields that deal with children to compensate for their guilt. This could be a reason, another reason is that teenager boys are riddled with hormones and hit on their teachers. I saw this a lot during middle school and high school, a lot of teachers are insecure introverts that enjoy the attention.

[–]moush 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It doesn’t help that 16 is considered an adult in many parts of the world and in ancient days was most definitely past it.

[–]DeesABird40 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Former losers from high school wanting to be in the cool crowd still?

[–]asianabsinthe 16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's nothing like seeing the local teachers here at the bar acting like sluts trying to be the center of attention

[–]odel555q 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It doesn't happen that often.

Oh wait, there's a whole subreddit dedicated to it.

[–]thefudmaster 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This has probably happened for quite some time but it is more publicized now, which is a good thing. Both genders are capable of rape, sexual assault, and pedophilia.

[–]Fanboysblow 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not that it happens more often, it's that thanks to social media and other internet forums, it's being exposed more often. Teachers have always been exploiting and abusing kids. Take a few minutes to search Youtube and look at all the videos of teachers abusing kids. This has always gone on.

Why? because of human nature. Teachers aren't any more decent than anyone else, and when scummy people get into a position of power over others, they take advantage. No, not all teachers but more than people would like to admit. As far as I'm concerned, there should be no privacy in schools and everything should be recorded.

[–]daebro1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

People like sex?

[–]DeesABird40 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Deleted comment from above “people like sex”

Very true, but why fuck children. Even this busted broad can go get a legal sexual experience literally anywhere else.

[–]johnthegawd 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Statistically, i would imagine there are prob just as many females who are wired to be on the spectrum of pedophilia just like some of only the males we see/read about on the news. Im sure that proclivity (think im using that word right) could and does influence the professions people pursue. I also think acts of female pedophilia dont get reported as often, especially when the kid is a teenager and the woman is attractive, which a lot of these teachers happen to be for some reason i dont understand. I can tell you that i sure as hell would have kept my mouth shut if a hot ass teacher wanted to bang me when i was 16. That would have been fine by me, but in the eyes of the law, not a good look for her.

[–]CherokeeSurprise 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The pathology of a female school teacher pedo. It's a woman who wants to feel young again. There are elements of dissatisfaction with her life, and elements of sexual addiction. They love the smell of a high school, filled with teenage hormone excretions. It reminds them of a different time back in their youth. They fear they're no longer young and pretty, so they overcompensate. It's often a strange mixture of histrionic personality disorder, and borderline personality disorder.

[–]RmeMSG 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Feel young again. Many of them are in their mid 20s or 30s.

How damn insecure do you have to be at that age, where your moral compass decides having sex with a student is a good thing.

The sexual addiction I can get on board with. With most, it's insecurities. The boy is a bit more mature than the the other boys, both emotionally and physically. Shows her attention and flirts with her.

I think this is a bit closer to the profile. It would fit for a male teacher too, just change the gender.

[–]CherokeeSurprise 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Feel young again. Many of them are in their mid 20s or 30s.

To you that may sound "still young." But to many of these offenders, they feel like they're still teenagers themselves. It's uncanny interacting with them. It's a grown woman pretending to be a grown woman but still secretly thinking she's a teenager. Like a teenager cosplaying as an adult teacher. Watch videos, or go out and meet one. There's this constant "I'm pretty, I may teach here, but in my mind I go here," mentality. "Oh my God I think Robby thinks I'm cute, he gets an A on his paper."

[–]RmeMSG 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To be that mentally immature and have the ability to make and be held accountable for their decisions.

It wouldn't be shocking if these women fell victim to scams (id theft) and other crimes which exploited this type of psychological immaturity. This is really unfortunate.

Somewhere during the development of this type of woman, there was an environmental factor in their life which was completely not in sync with what would be considered acceptable standards by most people, which stunted her psychological growth by locking it in a time which was safe in real life, yet now has authority of adult.

This is why parenting is so difficult and shouldn't be taken on so lightly. Everybody thinks having a baby is great. Their so cute, etc.

However, each one is unique, with no instructions on how their personality is going to be, what life experiences will they have?, will any be so extraordinary; will they define/change who they are?, are they born with a genetic disorder?, etc. This is why people really need to think before deciding to have kids and have the stability to do it.

When the environment is stable, kids will thrive and grow. Even when they've had a few obstacles put in their path during their lives.

[–]CuntSniffer9001 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because most women can't keep their legs closed.

[–]Aronacus 180 points181 points182 points 5 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

My God, her kids go to the same district. Imagine going to school and having everyone know you mom, is a kid fucker.

[–][deleted] 94 points95 points96 points 5 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

The fallout from this will be with them for the rest of their lives.

We had a neighborhood gal secretly driving to a neighboring state to perform as a stripper. Upper, UPPER middle class family, she definitely didnt do it for the money.

Someones relative happened to be there and he taped her giving raunchy lap dances, and of course the vid made its rounds. Those kids were devastated, as was the husband.

Those poor kids were fucked with to no end, many kids in school had the vid on their phone. I cannot imagine having to deal with something like that.

[–]Aronacus 41 points42 points43 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, daughter will be asked if she is a good as mom.

Son will get, I fucked your mom! I know we all got this one in HS. But he won't have a quick comeback.

And the husband. You know he's getting shit too.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, it was a shit show for everyone involved, this wasnt a very big town so everyone knew. After the divorce he took the kids and moved over 800 miles away. Last I heard she was living with some dirtbag in a 5th wheel camper a few towns over, Im assuming there is dope of one kind or another involved.

[–]Gotexas1972 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

My fifth wheel is nice bro! Stop hatin!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ha.

[–]Gotexas1972 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Stupid bitch. Imagine her husband knowing he got cucked by a 16 year old retard.

[–]BootyFatMan 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I can't believe I laughed at this. Fuck you.

[–]Aronacus 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you laugh you're going to hell.

[–]zbruno101 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That seems like a case where a person's decision ruined several people's lives including their own.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

For sure. I cant imagine dealing with that kind of shit in school.

[–]DifficultLeg 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

My mom is considered an attractive woman and when I was in highschool I constantly heard how people wanted to sleep with her. Now that I'm an adult, if I ever put a picture of us up on Instagram or something, I'll get comments about people wanting to be my step-dad or how good looking she is.

I'm a 27 year old man and I've never done that to anyone. I have no idea what the fuck is wrong with people that makes them think its ok to say that shit to someone else. Men and boys are fucking scumbags online.

[–]maryberry044 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it’s the concerned parent (Clark) whose kids go to school in the same district as the teacher.

[–]Thats_All_I_Need -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Where did it say that?

[–]Stopitstravtime 82 points83 points84 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Why is always special Ed teachers? Kinda fucked that she could of abused more kids and they might not know

[–]Dankaroor 20 points21 points22 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

because children who need special education are usually easier to take advantage of

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I know special education teachers have a lot more freedom of movement in schools as they aren't saddled with watching 30 kids every period of the day.

[–]Balls_DeepinReality 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She almost definitely did. That’s how sexual predators work.

[–]FultonPottz 93 points94 points95 points 5 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link

I never understood this. A women can walk into any establishment and get a guy in 5 minutes if they really want sex. Why 16 year old boys?

[–]deadleg22 121 points122 points123 points 5 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

Because she's a pedophile.

[–]IanZee 42 points43 points44 points 5 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

Technically she's an ephebophile. Pedophilia implies pre-pubescent children.

[–]funknjam[🍰] 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Weird. Literally just learned this word maybe four or five days ago and here it is. And I don't think it's a matter of having become sensitized, as can so often be the case, because I'm the kind of person who is always, actively, attempting to expand his vocabulary.

[–]alpha_amanda 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sounds like the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon

[–]funknjam[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Baader-Meinhof

Yes, that's the proper name for what I described as "becoming sensitized to it." I really don't think that's it, and for the reason stated. Sometimes, there are just coincidences!

[–]IanZee 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I learned it on a podcast! I think we use pedophile as a blanket statement but pedophiles are a whole different thing, entirely.

[–]Werft -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Having sex with a child is the same as having sex with a child. It's not "a whole different thing, entirely". One must be sick in the mind to do such a thing.

The term "ephebophile" is actively trying to make a heinous act sound better and as such I really don't think it should be used.

[–]thewoogier 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Different words mean different things for a reason. There's obviously a few degrees of separation between someone raping a toddler and someone having sex with a person that is the legal age of consent in the state, but is in a position of power so it's technically second degree rape. Differentiating the terminology doesn't mean you condone anything, but obviously there's a difference.

[–]ephebobot 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hey there, it seems you've used a pretty big word. Heres a helpful video on how to pronounce it:

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[–]Werft 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Amazing. Good bot.

[–]IanZee 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Umm no. We're going to disagree here. That's OK. But using the proper terminology actually helps to protect children as one word is a psychological diagnosis and the other is a moral issue. If we call everyone who is sexually attracted to someone younger than 18 a pedophile, we are diminishing the impact of the word. It should be reserved for extremely immoral cases.

While I would NEVER be attracted to a teenager as I'm 32 and married, they are vastly different things. An ephebophile isn't a psychiatric illness, pedophilia is. We westerners view ephebophilia as morally and legally wrong BUT that is a cultural thing, not biological. Being attracted to pre-pubescent children is wrong on even a biological level - there is no reason to be sexually attracted to people that young.

If you continue to use pedophilia, you're robbing that word of its impact and importance. It'd be like labeling everyone who's conservative as "a fascist". There is no word more extreme than "fascist" for that definition of person, so if you immediately jump to the extreme then you are taking the weight off of real fascists.

Same thing applies to pedophiles. She was attracted to and had sex with a child, yes. But that does not make her a pedophile.

[–]ephebobot 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey there, it seems you've used a pretty big word. Heres a helpful video on how to pronounce it:

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[–]ephebobot 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Hey there, it seems you've used a pretty big word. Heres a helpful video on how to pronounce it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB9fwJDweaU

[–]CuntSniffer9001 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

pedobot strikes again

[–]TheMoonstar74 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good bot

[–]CazRaX 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Legally it is just pedophile in the US, ephebophile is a scientific term and not a legal one here.

Edit: quick edit but searched "ephebophilia law us" on Google and the top is the Wiki link with the line "Ephebophilia is normal" above the rest in larger text.

[–]IanZee 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Pedophilia isn't a legal term, it's a psychological diagnosis. Being a pedophile isn't against the law, but rape of a child is.

What's bizarre to me is that Oklahoma has a marital exemption for this. If the teacher was married to the student, EVEN if the student was under 15, there'd be no law being broken. So if you're married, it's a-okay. Weird.

[–]Balls_DeepinReality 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oklahoma and the Middle East, more in common than you’d initially have thought

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Ephebophilia is not normal. Jesus.

[–]CazRaX 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Tell that to Google.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s not.

[–]ephebobot 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey there, it seems you've used a pretty big word. Heres a helpful video on how to pronounce it:

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[–]DeepSouthDude 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Because it's not about sex.

Because she doesn't want a man, she wants a child.

Because she's a suck individual that needs to be put away.

[–]FultonPottz1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

The article didn't say anything about oral. 🤣

[–]CuntSniffer9001 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Male pedophiles could also have sex with adult women, but they don't for the same reason this female pedophile chose to have sex with a child. Because pedophiles are sexually attracted to children.

[–]Rollthadixe 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s actually way more different for men. Women can go online or some app and find a man more easily than a man who goes on a dating site or app. A lot of women can even find other women. I think a lot of men do that sort of thing because they think they will be turned down if they sought out a woman.

It’s actually crazy considering good-looking broads would rather sleep with boys than men.

[–]SparkyMcBiff 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck I really really really hate clicking on a link and having it take me to a stupid moronic TV "news report.

I turned off the TV decades ago, I don't want it in my feed now!!

[–]l0g1cm4rt 64 points65 points66 points 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

She was a Special Education teachers, which means her victim was likely a boy with special needs.

[–]Razgris123 43 points44 points45 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

One of the kids had been circulating a nude picture of her

Naw. No way you're sending a picture to a kid with special needs phone.

[–]JawTn1067 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude idk how old you are but for me 18 years was enough to realize that yes there are people this stupid

[–]hsifeulbhsifder 33 points34 points35 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean not necessarily but yea

[–]FantasticStock 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, it absolutely would’ve been in the headline

[–]Fyrepup 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, but it doesn’t say that anywhere. That’s not really a good assumption.

[–]l0g1cm4rt 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

It's not an assumption (without probability or evidence). On the contrary, it's a presumption (supported by probability or evidence). The fact that she is a Special Needs teacher, means there is a high probability that her victim was a special needs child. It doesn't mean he definitely was; however, the fact she worked in special needs, means that she has regular access to special needs children.

I'm happy with my conclusion.

[–]Fyrepup 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks for the clarification. I still think it’s wrong to presume that, but I respect your right to offer your opinion.

[–]l0g1cm4rt 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[raises glass] live long and prosper my good fellow.

[–]Dissk 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Dude how about you read the article instead of making up shit based on the headline?

[–]l0g1cm4rt -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because, i'm a lazy bastard!

[–]KillerOkie 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The AOC in Oklahoma is in fact 16. The problem legally in this instance is the child-teacher relationship.

https://www.oklahoma-criminal-defense.com/crimes/age-of-consent

Statutory Rape Laws

Under Oklahoma law, sexual intercourse with a person considered legally unable to consent is considered statutory rape. Oklahoma statutes include the following as unable to give legal consent:

Those under the age of 16 (legal age of consent in Oklahoma)

Those incapable of giving legal consent due to mental illness or unsoundness of mind (temporary or permanent)

Those under the supervision or legal custody of a state agency, county, municipality, or political subdivision who engage in sexual activity with an employee or contractor of the authority. This includes relationships between teachers and students, even if the student is between the ages of 16 and 20.

Statutory rape is a strict liability crime. This means prosecutors are NOT required to prove that an assault occurred. But it is still classified as rape under the Oklahoma penal code.

[–]fellate-o-fish 34 points35 points36 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

her face is like 90% forehead and mouth

[–]CookedPeaches 21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What else do you need?

[–]L7-Optimuz 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Huh not really

[–]SkippedTheSaladBar -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly!! Wait, what..?

[–]maskedman0511 -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

*Fivehead

[–]TrollingKevi1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

This screen LMAO

[–]CuntSniffer9001 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

When a woman does it, they report it as "sleeping with student" or "having a relationship".

When a man does it, they report it as "statutory rape" or simply "rape".

Every. Single. Time.

[–]HeWhoIsNotMe 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How old is this woman?

[–]Always2StepsAhead 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

she turns 13 next monday

[–]queen-vampire 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She should get a tougher sentence because she is someone a child should be able to trust and rely on,

[–]Professional_Gold_25 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But muh women......

[–]KnightsOfTheNights 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Where is this nude photo at?

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[–]alexdiezg 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good bot.

[–]Betolicks 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I wish I would boned my HS teacher she was so bomb the perfect milf

[–]mlnombre 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah bro, me too with my high school teacher

[–]asdf333aza 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We finally calling it what it is now? Great. Now let's use her mugshot for the article and not her linked in pic

[–]IRGXenomorph 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Relationship = rape I'm confused 🤔

[–]Iraphoen 29 points30 points31 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Minors cannot legally consent, even if the AoC is 16, it is 18 if the other party is in a position of authority, including teaching. This would fall under grooming, thus second-degree rape

[–]KillerOkie 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well no, the AOC in Oklahoma is full stop 16. The problem here is the fact she's his teacher. Even if he was 20 and she was his teacher that is NOT allowed in Oklahoma.

​

Statutory Rape Laws

Under Oklahoma law, sexual intercourse with a person considered legally unable to consent is considered statutory rape. Oklahoma statutes include the following as unable to give legal consent:

Those under the age of 16 (legal age of consent in Oklahoma)

Those incapable of giving legal consent due to mental illness or unsoundness of mind (temporary or permanent)

Those under the supervision or legal custody of a state agency, county, municipality, or political subdivision who engage in sexual activity with an employee or contractor of the authority. This includes relationships between teachers and students, even if the student is between the ages of 16 and 20.

Statutory rape is a strict liability crime. This means prosecutors are NOT required to prove that an assault occurred. But it is still classified as rape under the Oklahoma penal code.

[–]GolfClapp 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She was a special ed teacher. Was the student mentally challenged?

[–]OriginalGreedy 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course they dont use her mug shot.

[–]timascus 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice

[–]ArcanedAgain 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

WHY IS THE WORD PEDOPHILE NOT IN THE HEADLINE?

[–]Thats_All_I_Need 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

BECAUSE AGE OF CONSENT IN OK IS 16 AND IF SHE WASN’T HIS TEACHER IT WOULD’NT BE NEWS.

[–]ArcanedAgain -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Help capslock.

[+]JawTn1067 -9 points-8 points-7 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

FUCK OK’S AGE OF CONSENT BACKWARDS ASS LAWS ARE BACKWARDS

[–]thewoogier 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Dude, 30 out of 50 states the legal age of consent is 16

[–]myloveisajoke 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And I think they were even lower back before the internet got popular. I remember a friend of a friend's 14 year old running off to a state with some low age of consent in the mid 90s and they had a mushy time trying to prosecute it.

[–]thewoogier 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think now they have federal laws that prevent people from traveling to states with a lower age of consent for that reason.

[–]JawTn1067 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ok? Laws don’t dictate morality

[–]thewoogier 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

And you do? You said OK's laws are backwards, chances are whatever state you're in it's the same. And the age of consent isn't that much of a factor here because it's about someone taking advantage of their position of authority. Even if they were 18 she'd still be prosecuted rightly so

[–]Fyrepup 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

BECAUSE SHE’S NOT A PEDOPHILE. SHE’S AN EPHEBOPHILE.

[–]ephebobot 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey there, it seems you've used a pretty big word. Heres a helpful video on how to pronounce it:

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[–]AAAPosts1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Niiiiice

[–]DamnSon81 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm definitely not advocating for this. She's definitely a horrible human being. But how come every man that does this to a child actually looks like a pathetic degenerate while every woman that does this to a child seems to be reasonably attractive?

[–]d41d8cd98f00b204e980 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Though I have to say, 16 should be legal in every state. It's crazy you can legally have sex with a 16 year old in 34 states, and get a rape charge in others.

[–]thirdstreetzero1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Nice.

[–]redditter619 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Niiiiiiiiiiceeeeee

[–]ElementalStarShadow 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Very nice Caesar Chan

[–]Lui_Le_Diamond 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Began a relationship with" raped*

[–]YourCaptainSteven 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What is age of consent in Oklahoma?

[–]Dependent_Drawer_178 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wish I had been that 16 year old. The teacher looks hot.

[–]Issa397BC1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Nice

[–]koolaid_chemist1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Nice

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice

[–]prinz_Eugen_sama 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I've been saying this for years. Teachers outnumber priests by a lot. Y'all are looking at the church, but these people are around kids 24/7.

[–]_Ardhan_ 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most teachers aren't mentally ill the way fanatical religious people are. I wouldn't be surprised if the mind of someone that deeply buried in religion isn't as healthy as the average person.

[–]Organization-North 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Zero days since... fucking Oklahoma ....

[–]DarthSlade 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This town is insanely small. Yeah those kids will have to move to get any resolution

[–]Coffeehound13 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What’d she do? Flash her tits in a zoom call?

[–]b5d598 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Will get 2 months of jail

[–]Professional_Gold_25 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She's staring down the barrel of 6 whole months of probation here, folks. This is no joke!!

[–]deadbiker 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Did the 16 y/o boy willingly have sex with her? Was he traumatized by the sex? Would he do it again if he had the chance? If yes, no, yes, then it wasn't rape even he is only 16. I'd say the same if it was a male and 16 y/o girl. If my daughter said it was fine, and she was happy, then I wouldn't be bothered by it.

[–]RockBlesnar1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

noone wants to hear logic, they just want to hear the word rape

[–]deadbiker 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

True.

[–]Gentle_Catsine 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Dude what.

[–]redditter619 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

It must be a hypothetical daughter lol no way any dad is typing that statement

[–]deadbiker 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Nope, real daughter with a brain. If she was good with it, then I'd be. It's sex. Don't get pregnant, and protect against diseases are the only rules.

[–]redditter619 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And don’t do it with any one related to you

[–]deadbiker 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Didn't think I had to add that.

[–]TheNewPraetor -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Low key wants to fuck his daughter and trying to justify it

[–]deadbiker -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Moronic statement from a low key brain.

[–]RockBlesnar1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

Damn what a lucky guy. That is a beautiful woman.

[–]WarPositive69 -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Mega cringe

[–]RockBlesnar1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

you've got 69 in your name bro. don't even start

[–]Generic_Reddit_Bot 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

69? Nice.

I am a bot lol.

[–]superintendentpoops 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good bot

[+]smallballsbigmuscles1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (16 children) | Copy Link

16 year old legend

[–]hyperboleistheworst 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

*rape victim

[+]smallballsbigmuscles1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (14 children) | Copy Link

The kid had to be loving it. This is any 16 year olds dream lol

[–]JawTn1067 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You’re most of the problem congrats

[–]LeoBites44 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s not.

[–]hyperboleistheworst -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Aka rape apologist

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

People are really snowflakes in 2020

[–]the_saltlord -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People are really this mentally deficient in 2020

[–]hyperboleistheworst -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Nah. These are facts. The law considers this to be rape. You seem to be bending over backwards in an attempt to excuse what she did.

[–]MarquisOfHell1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

have to wonder why someone would try so hard to excuse a rapist/pedo... his hard drive probably belongs in an evidence locker.

[–]hyperboleistheworst -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You aren't helping. This isn't pedophilia.

In popular usage, the word pedophilia is often applied to any sexual interest in children or the act of child sexual abuse.[1][2][7] This use conflates the sexual attraction to prepubescent children with the act of child sexual abuse and fails to distinguish between attraction to prepubescent and pubescent or post-pubescent minors.[8][9] Researchers recommend that these imprecise uses be avoided, because although some people who commit child sexual abuse are pedophiles,[7][10] child sexual abuse offenders are not pedophiles unless they have a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children,[8][11][12] and some pedophiles do not molest children

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

his hard drive probably belongs in an evidence locker

Even if it was pedophilia, this type of baseless accusations are disgusting and counterproductive.

[–]smallballsbigmuscles1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Curious, do you honestly think the 16 year old did not want to engage in whatever they did? There’s no way anyone can think this was forced. It’s a high schoolers dream lol

[–]hyperboleistheworst 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

It doesn't matter if he consented or not. Teachers having sex with underage students is illegal.

Limited by relationship: younger partner is deemed able to consent to having sex with an older one as long as the latter is not in a position of trust or authority, or is not recognised to be abusing the inexperience of the younger one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_the_United_States

I'm curious how criticizing your comments makes me a snowflake, yet here we are.

[+]EpicPhilanthropist1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Where were these teachers when I was in school...

jealous

[–]just_some_guy8484 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No

[–]woodenonesie -5 points-4 points-3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same

[+]LanceLynxx -8 points-7 points-6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same

[–]Internal-Joe 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes she is treated like a man ( so like a predator ) but ... neither male or female adult having sex with consenting student are predator.

Yes for law it's a deviant behavior but let's be honest 16 years old is not pedophilia.

[–]thisisan0nym0us1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Nice

[–]Issa397BC1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Nice

[–]elfudge31 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Where are the people screaming to defund teachers or demand they all take additional training so they will know its wrong to have sex with minor students?

[–]Thats_All_I_Need 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I’m betting it’s because teachers are held accountable, but I know that’s hard to understand.

[–]elfudge31 -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Held accountable? No they aren't because it keeps happening. I ask again, why aren't people screaming they take additional training? Obviously teachers aren't aware sleeping with students is wrong.

[–]Thats_All_I_Need 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yes they are. They’ll be prosecuted and convicted serving jail time and in most cases registering as a sex offender for life. They know it’s wrong just as a thief knows it’s wrong to steal. I know it’s shocking to you but people knowingly do the wrong thing all time.

“BuT tHeN wHy dO pEoPlE cAlL fOr mOrE pOLiCe tRaInIng?” Because high stress situations demand more training in order to make split second decisions...for those that still don’t get it.

[–]elfudge31 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Or given probation.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.daytondailynews.com/news/probation-prison-teacher-sex-crime-cases-show-sentences-vary-widely/7Kmnt6LmGnop9FlmcPpyUI/%3foutputType=amp

[–]Thats_All_I_Need 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh look at you. You found an exception. You should be real proud of yourself.

[–]elfudge31 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

An exception? Are you stupid or just dumb? It was an example after example after example.

[–]blackhat8287 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She’s probably going to get 6 months probation after a mental health defence with a side of sob story tears.

[–]Free2Bernie -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The reality of this is is that if this teacher had have been a point or two higher on the 10-point in attractiveness, then we wouldn't have heard of this and nothing would have happened to her. Maybe probation.

[–]Aspenhoff1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Lucky student

[–]Dependent_Drawer_1781 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

That's what I'm saying. These people who are against it are pathetic

[–]ConcentrateSudden712 -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

i hear more of teachers having sex with students than schools are good in educating and sometimes there is a massive shooting. weird systems

[–]daebro 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because a school doing acceptable amounts of educating isn't news. Do you really look for news that things are looking normal? The news only reports on things that deviate outside of normalcy.

[–]Thats_All_I_Need 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Because that’s the news people click on.

[–]ConcentrateSudden712 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yea i heard like 10 times this year a teacher had sex with a student in US, pretty weird for my country/neighbour countrys here

[+]CptMisery1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (23 children) | Copy Link

I don't see this as abuse or rape. Boys and girls are different

[–]lordofthehamstrings 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Are you trying to say that boys can't be sexually abused or raped? Are you an idiot?

[–]CptMisery -5 points-4 points-3 points 5 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Are you an idiot? Of course boys can be abused and raped, but as a former 16 year old boy, I know that many of us would have been very willing to have sex with certain teachers. It is very likely that a 16 year old would have been the one trying to make this happen.

[–]hyperboleistheworst 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

And how would any of that make what she did less inappropriate or illegal?

[–]CptMisery -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

God damn, you are an idiot. I didn't say anything about the appropriateness or legality.

[–]hyperboleistheworst 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I never said you did say that. I'm asking why any of what you said matters when either way she broke the law?

yOu iDiOt

[–]CptMisery -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Dude... You are asking stupid questions that have nothing to do with the things I said.

[–]hyperboleistheworst 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

Nah

as a former 16 year old boy, I know that many of us would have been very willing to have sex with certain teachers. It is very likely that a 16 year old would have been the one trying to make this happen

None of this matters when...

Limited by relationship: younger partner is deemed able to consent to having sex with an older one as long as the latter is not in a position of trust or authority, or is not recognised to be abusing the inexperience of the younger one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_the_United_States

[–]lordofthehamstrings 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Are you crazy? Every 16 year old boy is the same and wants to bang their teachers /s

[–]CptMisery -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

It matters when it is the reason I do not see this specific event, with the currently available details, as rape. I was not talking about what the law thinks.

[–]lordofthehamstrings -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Ah, yes, because every 16 year old boy is the same.

[–]chratoc1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

How? Imagine if the teacher was male and the student a 16yo High school girl. He would have fuckin made a headlines in local newspaper but news like this never break out because "BoYs aNd gIrLs aRe DifFeReNt".

No they are not bitch. We men need rights as well. Men can be raped too and Sexual abuse on men is a real thing.

[–]CptMisery -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Dude... Calm the fuck down. I didn't say men can't be abused or raped. I said this specific event doesn't seem like abuse or rape.

[–]chratoc1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Imagine if the teacher was male and the student a 16yo High school girl

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[–]CptMisery -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Would need more details, but that scenario is more likely to be abuse

[–]hyperboleistheworst 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Then you're a hypocrite.

[–]deadleg22 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

...girls mature quicker than men. What are you trying to say.

[–]happyhaven1984 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like you're sexist and misinformed

[–]PerryCaravello -5 points-4 points-3 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Hot take: a woman you can’t rape a male into having sex with you, males don’t get hard unless they’re cool with it, now that I think of it though she could theoretically have forced him into taking stuff in his butt, that deffo counts, otherwise it’s grooming and pedo activity.

[–]TrustMeImBad 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

As teens to young adults, anything even grazing the penis can incite an erection. That means i was cool with having sex with my shorts right? I really hope your comment is satire.

[–]PerryCaravello 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well nobody is accusing your shorts of rape, I’d say it sounds like you engaged in a consensual act with fabric. All I’m saying is that until I know wether the guy gave consent or not I’m not calling it rape, because consent is the primary factor in defining rape... not age difference. No satire, dumb analogy btw, try harder. If he consented then it wasn’t rape.

[–]ironjaw3ds 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It said they fucked 3 times. He seemed fine with it. It's definitely predatory but probably not rape.

[+]Book_it_again -9 points-8 points-7 points 5 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link

Lol she's white so let's not put a picture of the mug shot up. Welcome to journalism.

Edit yea okay act like they wouldn't have her mugshot in the article g she was black like that woman who tried to get a job and was arrested for child abandonment when her kids were at a table right outside the business. Nah that's great guys. Deny that there is racial bias in the media. Keep being intentionally ignorant about something so obvious. You are what's holding back this country.

[–]Lui_Le_Diamond 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Most mug pics I see in news are white tf you talkin about?

[+]Book_it_again -6 points-5 points-4 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I'm talking about reality lol there is racial bias in media. Super simple stuff and this isn't a debate. That debate is over and most of society understands there needs to be changed which is what social progress is. But yea stick with white people are treated just as bad as minorites by the media lol it'll be funny to look back on in a few decades.

[–]Lui_Le_Diamond 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The fuck you on about?

[–]Book_it_again -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Are you illiterate? Lol it's extremely simple

[–]Lui_Le_Diamond -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Not illiterate. But what are you on about?

[–]Book_it_again -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I mean I don't want to bust out the Crayola's for you. If you really can't wrap your mind around it than I don't think I have the education to help someone like you. I'd you disagree that's fine but if you literally can't understand it that's a you thing.

[–]Lui_Le_Diamond 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not that I can't wrap my mind around it, but what you're saying doesn't match reality, so again, what are you on about?

[–]ElementalStarShadow -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is true that the US has racial bias. I am white and I can admit that so...yeah.

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