HVM and sexual escalation

RoleplayPete · 2022-08-01T00:21:13+00:00

Because he isnt pursuing sex. He is pursuing you, but in order for that to have any grounds at all, he has to know its there.

If you want him, you want him. If you dont, then you never will.

If we have sex or not may very well be in the aether. Maybe we do, maybe we dont. But if you can flat out look at me and says "We arent going to have sex" you simply dont want me.

We dont have to do it. We can choose not to. But it not being possible is never going to lead to a good outcome.

SunshineSundress · 2022-07-31T19:18:19+00:00

Men want sex. If they’re attracted to you, and confident enough to try (and most HVM who are in high demand are), they will at least try their luck.

If they’re too pushy and insistent before you’re comfortable or sufficiently into them enough to want to have sex with them, then it’s probably not a good match. But if you “drop” every guy who tries his luck (and is respectful after you decline), you’re probably gonna end up with a dating pool of only guys who are either not very confident or do not get the attention of many women easily (the exception are religious guys in extremely TradCon circles, but I suspect you’re not dating these men else you would not be in this scenario).

This sidebar post and this sidebar post goes more in depth about why this is.

wantAdvice13 · 2022-07-31T20:40:12+00:00

Easiest way is to ask them directly, because they know where the influence comes from.

hellotrillions · 2022-08-01T22:04:31+00:00

Just a thought but "quick to sex behavior" has been so normalized nowadays (especially in regards to men who are considered by women to be highly attractive) that a lot of men have received disinterest and criticism from women when they're not like that. A lot of women find it weird and a turnoff when guys don't show their lustful side quickly, even though a lot of women would consider that a good thing. Decide for yourself if you actually like him, don't let yourself be pressured into anything you don't actually want to do.

AdEconomy4032 · 2022-08-01T01:47:36+00:00

Us guys want sex, true. But I think the issue is not so much with the sex itself, but rather indicators of desire. Sure, you may find guys who have it in their minds to stop pursuing a woman if sex isn't had by a certain number of dates. But I think for most guys, we don't necessarily look for sex, but an escalation of sexual tension. On the first date, both parties may play it very conservative as far as physical contact and flirtation. As more dates pass, we expect at least a gradual increase in these things, but not necessarily sex. In the case of HVM, they likely want to know that you have some baseline level of desire for them and not just their status or what they possess. No amount of money or status can make up for a lack of sexual desire. If things aren't trending in that direction, they will most likely try to find it among their other options.

Also, I think it should be said that you shouldn't compromise your morals or values for anyone. This whole HVM thing has developed a cult-like following and has some guys thinking that they are something that they aren't. Never be afraid to establish your boundaries upfront and leave if those boundaries aren't respected.

lIllIlllIl · 2022-08-01T01:01:31+00:00

Because we don't want to waste time. I know my compatibility with a girl most certainly after sex. It has nothing to do with any desire for sexual gratification.

I've wasted too much time, money, and effort on girls in the past only to find that we had zero compatibility and chemistry.

gd_reinvent · 2022-08-01T02:16:04+00:00

Having money, status, being 6 feet tall, a good career , good looking, popular and having nice things does not automatically equal HVM.

Most guys will probably try their luck sex wise but if they are really pushy and get angry or demanding or bring up what they buy for you etc then they're not HVM.

Also, a guy can have a lack of money, friends, looks etc but if he has a good heart and gives what he has, he can still be a HVM.

RipuliPeintteri · 2022-07-31T21:28:21+00:00

This comes off as very naive from a man's perspective. Any woman a man is attracted to the first thought of them is sex. That's the only reason a man would approach a woman for dating. It's then down to the man's personal belief system how he goes about hiding it. Women don't like to hear about it so it's just a matter of which point to delay it to. If there is no sex then there is no relationship. That is a relationship to a man. From the woman's side relationship is attention. These are opposites.

For a woman to dress sexually and give it up to anyone is disgusting in the context of a relationship. Dressing moderate is much more attractive than the knowledge that the woman is promiscuous. Promiscuous meaning any loser can get it so you don't need to be a man of value so it's easy. Promiscuous being a much nicer word than what I actually use. If a female is not picky and just sleeps with any man it's disgusting. A picky prudish, moderately dressing woman who doesn't bring up sex in conversation is as sexually attractive as a female can get.

Most red pill men would probably expect sex pretty fast. If a female is attracted to you she will break her rules and have sex. If not then why waste time. Then you have the polar opposite of guys who want women to make them wait in order to prove that they are difficult and won't sleep with any man. And kinda in the same category you have religious types.

Kaizen77 · 2022-07-31T19:36:23+00:00

Maybe the energy you give off and how well do you read people. Are they truly HVM or is it a facade. HVM are not always looking for sex so quickly and are looking for a close friend, deep connections that mean more than sex. Keep your standards and positive thoughts high and be open to looking in other areas.

Title	HVM and sexual escalation
Author	Independent-Hall4929
Upvotes	24
Comments	42
Date	July 31, 2022 7:01 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/RedPillWomen
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