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$1 Billion Divorce

KermitTheeFrog777
January 7, 2015
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Title $1 Billion Divorce
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KermitTheeFrog777
Upvotes 81
Comments 57
Date January 7, 2015 7:00 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
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[–]FetusFeces 67 points68 points69 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

All hail the coming divorce reformation laws! You can't just fuck around with the fortunes of incredibly wealthy and well-connected married men and not expect consequences.

[–]TekkomanKingz 38 points39 points40 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Please oh please let this turn into a legal precedent somehow

[–]Matsew 23 points24 points25 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

they'll find a way to make it work for them but not for the masses.

[–]makethemsayayy 33 points34 points35 points 11 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

This is how women get rich, prying money from men.

All the richest women on Forbes inherited it.

Could this explain the "WAGE GAP"?! Maybe women don't need to fucking get money, cuz they can just, gee I don't know, FUCK some sap and get him to marry her in order to get her money? Why would you work if you can just do that? That's where the wage gap comes in.

[–]Hasmond 24 points25 points26 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

The wage gap is due to women choosing careers in fields that pay less but have shorter working hours, require less knowledge and/or are safer to work in.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 11 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

This explanation won't satisfy progressivists.

First, everything about their viewpoint is that men and women are the same. Period. I was talking to a guy that worked at the New York Times, and as soon as I mentioned that human beings are sexually dimorphic, he said, "Oh please. Human beings are one of the least sexually dimorphic species." This man is very well educated and in his 50s.

Therefore, you can't say things like, "Well, women are less aggressive about negotiating a higher salary. Women prefer different career fields." In their mind, men and women are exactly the same, and if there are any socioeconomic discrepancies between men and women, that is in itself, evidence of misogyny, sexism, and discrimination.

That's why we need more affirmative action in the workforce, because assholes like me are discriminating against women.

Women are less aggressive about negotiating salary? Must be that society is discouraging/oppressing/brainwashing women into being submissive.

Women prefer different fields? Must be that society is discouraging/oppressing/brainwashing women into preferring different fields because they are exactly the same and have the exact same abilities as men.

Modern progressivists absolutely will not accept that sexual dimorphism accounts for the socioeconomic discrepancies we see. Why? Well, that's sexist. All people, everywhere, on the entire planet are totally equal.

[–]curious97 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Human beings are one of the least sexually dimorphic species

el oh el this fact is in reference to the insect species who have females 50x larger than males or stuff like that. Doesn't mean men and women are not drastically different psychologically

[–]oaddsandk 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My favorite bit is that the existence of transsexuals proves our mental dimorphism, because you have a female brain in male body or vice versa. But men and women have identical brains and it's all social pressures from the patriarchy enforcing gender roles!

[–]makethemsayayy 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You do know the wage gap is like 97 to the dollar right? Not the 76 cents O-cunt-bama quoted

[–]drrtyfrrnr 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Newer research shows that childless women of the current generation are actually outearning men 10 cents to each man's dollar, but you'll never hear shitlibs acknowledge that.

There's no crisis except women being oppressed by men.

[–]ruboski 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hey man do you have a source on this?

Just curious to see the data.

[–]makethemsayayy 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There was a TIL where it said women in cities earn 8% more than men.

[–]makethemsayayy 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh yeah I've seen that. It's a fucking joke.

It's not because they work any harder/better, it's because employers are so scared about bitches crying foul they pay them more so they'll shut the fuck up.

[–]curomo 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I had to check to be sure...

from Forbes richest women list, #22 Laiwa Chan

Chan is the first on the Richest Women list to be a self-made billionaire.

Of course she's the ONLY self-made on their list of 26 (where the hell is Oprah!?)

[–]Newdist2 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

All the richest women on Forbes inherited it.

Oprah. And Martha Stewart.

That's about it, though.

[–]makethemsayayy 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's like 2 out of 100. And them being women had EVERYHTING to do with their success.

[–]rossiFan 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Except for Oprah, but nobody wants to F her, anyway.

[–]Manuel_S 27 points28 points29 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This is not 1 billion divorce.

This is 1 billion stupidity. That man may be an excellent businessman, but:

1 - he married without prenupting his property.

2 - he had the time to stash some of it at least in a way it couldn't be reached.

Laws are bad? Sure. But he went ahead, laid himself down on the road and told the courthouses to run him over.

[–]SenorBananaHammock 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

My understanding is she worked as an executive in the company from the founding of it

[–]southernmost 22 points23 points24 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm sure the wife of the CEO worked VERY HARD and made invaluable contributions to the oil company's success. Sure she had more to do with his wealth than the incredible explosion of oil prices over the past 2 decades.

[–]Archammes 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not quite. Continental was formed in 1967, originally named Shelly Dean Oil Co. Hamm married Arnall in 1988, well after Hamm had acquired Petro-Lewis and numerous other assets.

[–]SenorBananaHammock 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That makes more sense. Lol.

[–][deleted] 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

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[–]makethemsayayy 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"and it HAS to look like an accident. This fucking cunt has already made this shit public."

[–]batfish55 20 points21 points22 points 11 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

A billion dollars?

Shit, man, if someone gave me a billion dollars, unless I decided to buy dozens of mansions in wealthy areas (which, why? I can only sleep in one bed a night.), I'm not sure I could spend that much money in a lifetime.

Should the lesson here be: a divorcee isn't after enough money to live by (even it's a wildly luxurious amount), but is after hurting her ex as badly as possible?

Note to BP trolls: don't forget to wife up that "reformed," post-wall slut you're in love with!

[–]thrway1312 15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The divorcee isn't after enough to live by, they're after as much as they can possibly get. Don't take it personally, that's just the nature of female entitlement.

[–]1independentmale 13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Often they're so irrationally angry they want to completely ruin the man no matter the cost.

I know a guy who lost a six figure job and spent some time in jail when his ex ratted him out for dealing drugs during the divorce. Dumb bitch bragged that she was going to ruin him and "take everything."

The cops seized most of his assets, so she didn't get shit. He's now an unemployable felon, so her child support and alimony dreams are gone. She's a single welfare mom and since she also lied about him being abusive in order to kick him out of the family home, he can't even help her raise the kids because he's not allowed to be around them except for a couple hours a month of supervised visitation. The bank foreclosed on the home while he was in jail, so she lost that, too.

Yet she still blames him for it all and accepts no responsibility for her part in what happened. All she had to do was keep her mouth shut and she could have walked with six figures worth of assets and a huge monthly stipend from his on-the-books day job.

[–]iloveyoumorethanham 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's also the nature of lawyers. They probably talked her into going for as much as they can so the lawyers can get as big of a cut as they can.

[–]texx77 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Think of it like this. Let's say he was worth $100k, that would be equivalent to him offering her 5 grand.

So is a billion dollars more than enough? Of course it is. But relative to his net worth, its not a very high percentage. This is her rationale.

[–]Popsiclestix1234 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The rationale behind alimony is to compensate the women for her lost opportunities in career advancement because she choose to be the spouse to take care of the house/children/whatever. I highly doubt this woman could have made $1bn on her own, let alone $9bn (50% of his supposed net worth).

[–]andres7832 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

While I understand your point, and I agree with it the issue here is getting married, not the greedyness IMO. Both men and women will be greedy, its on everyone's nature. Getting married without a prenup or asset protection is the main issue, but most people get married knowing the consequences of a divorce (splitting assets 50/50 that were made during the marriage)

I dont blame the woman for turning the 1 billion down, it would be idiotic to do so if by law she gets to up that to 6-7 or 9Billion.

[–]Popsiclestix1234 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed with what you said. I'm mostly angry with the law (and feminism's influence that enacted these laws), not the woman who is turning down the $1bn for more.

[–]texx77 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I highly doubt this woman could have made $1bn on her own, let alone $9bn (50% of his supposed net worth).

Well clearly, but that isn't really how divorce settlements work. Most states are just based on a percentage of assets and a few other factors.

[–]Popsiclestix1234 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Correct, but the law seems rather unjust in this case.

[–][deleted] 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]Archammes 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

On her own (without a man) she would be earning about $12,000 per year, plus tips.

Not sure we're talking about the same case here. Arnall is a practicing attorney and was an executive at Continental for many years. While the divorce rape is obvious and unfair, your sour grapes aren't adding anything constructive to the discussion.

If you're going to be this aggressively stupid, please don't post here anymore.

[–]TheOneTrueMagnet2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

While I would say that she is probably not only out to get her "fair share" but twist the knife, you would be surprised at just how fast someone used to that lifestyle can spend that money.

[–]andres7832 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here's my thinking: If it was the other way around, would a man turn that down if the wife is worth 18B? Fuck yes, I understand 1B is a shit ton of money, but you know whats better than 1B? 9 Billion.

The main issue here is not that the woman is greedy, because all human beings are that way. The main issue is marriage and divorce laws and this guy's innability to spend 100K in legal fees earlier to protect his fortune.

[–]themoor37 points 11 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

If I were the judge in this case and learned she turned that down, I would reward her $1 and charge her court costs (for wasting our time).

[–]andres7832 -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I dont get your mentality. It angers me that divorce laws suck but this is different. The guy went ahead and got married without a prenup, no protection whatsoever.

Laws are in place that marital assets are split 50/50. There is no arguing that, it is a reality that everyone getting married needs to realize, regardless of who makes the money. It is not fair to the main contributor but it goes both ways (KFed and Britney for example where the woman makes the money)

If the guy make say 10B over the marriage then she is entitle to 5B. Yes, its stupid but thats the law. He and she both knew the law before hand and still got married. To say she is stupid to turn down 1B is stupid. Under the law she deserves 5B so she'd be leaving 4B behind.

The law is the law until it is changed. If the woman was a man and the man was being forced to accept 1B instead of 5B, would that make any difference?

Asset division sucks, but it happens when you get married. The only way to not lose is not getting married and not allowing common law marriage to creep in as well.

[–]duckspeed14 points 11 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

He was married for ~10000 days. That's $ 100000 per day.

[–]Dubyaz 20 points21 points22 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's an expensive prostitute.

[–]ZeroOn 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That wouldn't fuck you daily. Maybe monthly.

[–]tyofwa 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Eddie's classic Johnny Carson bit is in order here

[–]gt35r 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I got sucked into an office argument about this which I should have avoided but I was in a debating mood and was against the HR dept and accounts payable. That was the mistake, they (4 women) thought that since she was with him for 26 years she should hold out. And my argument was that he had been the CEO since 1967 while it was still the Shelly Dean Oil Co. and what part of her eventually working for him caused her to earn anything other than her normal salary, she did not help him increase his wealth in any way. So I was called an asshole by them and they hope I never raise children.

So I have that going for me from now on here. Lesson learned, the hive mind knows no bounds.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you have that much money a volatile wife and are not stashing your money in Latvian (swiss suck amwrican dick now) tax sheltars then you are asking to make a charitable donation.

[–]ioncloud9 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He is worth $18billion but almost certainly doesnt have most of even half of it in liquid assets. She is going to want, and the courts are going to grant her, cash instead of assets. So he is going to lose more than 50% when he is forced to prematurely sell off assets to get $9billion in cash, as he is going to try to keep investments in the most profitable ventures. Im sure her "marital support" was worth $9billion. Because thats all she was. That and an escort to carry around.

[–]randarrow 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not to mention oil has crashed and oil companies are hurting and losing value if not out right losing money. I would bet she is doing the divorce now because she knows he will be worth much less than $18B once the financials are in this winter. His company may well be about to fail, and she smells blood so she is bailing now. Would be in his interest to delay until spring.

[–]Tarnsman4Life 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah; I would move all my assets to some play like Cayman or Switzerland, flip off the courts, sell off all my US assets and enjoy a new life on some tropical beach. F D B

[–]Christian_Kong 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The comments in the yahoo article are gold.

[–]dchrisd 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I would have definitely gone for it and it seems fucked up to turn it down. But the girl is represented by counsel who know a lot more about the situation, facts, her rights, and his assets than we do, so rejecting the offer is not that crazy to me. This seems like the McDonald case all over again - Looks silly to the general public, but makes a ton of sense when you have all the facts.

[–]randarrow 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They rejected the check during the appeal, the amount was determined by a judge. They felt if they cashed the check it would hurt their appeal.

[–]thefirefoxforever 1 points1 points1 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I don't consider myself "red pill" but I definitely agree that these laws are fucking insane. I just don't understand why someone should get half of your shit just because you get divorced - that makes no sense to me. And in the case of very wealthy people it creates very fucked up situations (like this.)

[–]MensaNominee 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Take my situation...I'm in my mid-twenties. I met my current fiance in my senior year of college. She was there with me for moral support, sexual release and even for that simple advice that you already know but you just need to hear from someone. I'm now making decent money for my age living in NYC. Can I say I wouldn't be where I am without her? No...but can I say that I would be here without her? No...that being understood, the FACT remains that she WAS there providing all of the aforementioned support. She's even paying half of our bills which is allowing me to save money and make investments...so I can say, I won't be where I'll be when I'm 30-35 without her. So, if we got a divorce at age 40, instead of auditing every single expense, penny and receipt for the last 20 something years and figuring out just how much she's entitled to (I don't think anyone keeps track of something like that in the level of detail that would be required to prove what percentage of financial assistance one's SO provides) it's just easier to say 50%.

[–]tosyncornotsync 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is there a possibility this is some money-laundering scheme at its highest level?

[–]DarthRoach 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

An unfortunate, lethal accident is way cheaper than that.

[–]Clyde10 -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree 1 billion is more than enough for her, but why waste my time bothered by the fact that even if he gives her half he still will have 9 BILLION DOLLARS, poor bastard.

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