A Query on a sub created in reaction to TRP regarding how THEY advise men to meet the hottest possible women for sex or LTR yields typical laughable results

n0c0ntr0l · 2014-07-05T21:52:29+00:00

All you can do is get acquainted with her and hope she is attracted to you

Hope, really? Hope is all they've got? Might as well go to church and pray for it then.

zyk0s · 2014-07-05T21:11:55+00:00

Man: "How do I get successful with women and have sex with hot ones?"

Everyone: "OMG! Misogynist! Women are people, not objects, get to know them and be nice, jeez..."

Woman: "How do I get successful with men and keep the wealthy, high-status ones?"

Everyone: "You go girl! You deserve what's best! Here's how you can trick them..."

Funny how we even have a redditlog on the front page of a gold digger asking how she can get better gift from her rich boyfriend. Still gets me every time.

Tom_The_Human · 2014-07-05T23:01:26+00:00

One thing I still fail to grasp is how people still believe everyone's unique and that implying certain traits are more attractive to women dehumanizes them.

Guess what: Women are humans, humans are animals, and animals have, through evolution, learned to look for specific traits in mates. It's not that fucking hard.

TheSKSpecial · 2014-07-05T20:34:27+00:00

There is no key. She's a human being, not a puzzlebox that dispenses sex when solved. All you can do is get acquainted with her and hope she is attracted to you. There are various ways to make yourself more attractive, such as dressing well, grooming yourself, self-confidence, being physically fit, having good social skills, but in the end it all comes down to if she's interested, and there is no way to force that.

I love when people say they hate theredpill and then proceed to give extremely redpill advice. Like don't get oneitis, be confident and good-looking, but even still rejection will happen and it's not a big deal.

And now onto another comment:

Lady here. Here's a step-by-step process of how every FWB/boyfriend I've ever had got me into bed.

I'm all ears. Let's try and translate this.

1) He was an interesting, mature person when we met. I met them in a variety of places - one through work, one through a coworker's house party, one through a college friend, one at a college party, etc. By interesting I mean he had insightful things to say on a variety of topics, asked my opinions, and was able to engage in thoughtful, funny conversation with me.

The guys that approached me were generally good-looking, interesting, and confident men I wanted to sleep with. I probably ignored everyone else.

2) He made it clear he wanted to be my friend. I was asked to hang out beyond when I initially met them to do fun things that - and this is important - weren't sex related. One guy and I would go through the Calvin and Hobbes books at Barnes and Noble and then go get Noodles for dinner. One invited me and my friends to watch movies at the frat house one night. One baked cookies with me. Etc. These are all things that I would do with any friend and it meant a lot because I knew they were interested in me as a person rather than as something to fuck.

I found out after the fact that I was physically attracted to them how interesting they were as people.

3) They let their attraction to me show but didn't push it. They would flirt with me in fun ways - implying they found me pretty, that they wanted to be with me more, etc but weren't crude or crass about it. One flat-out told me he was attracted to me. But none of them pushed it. They gave me that knowledge and then it was up to me to decide what I wanted to do with it. Had any of them pressured me to have sex, I would've noped on out of there. Through it all, they kept enjoying my company as another person and friend. They were flattered and not pushy when I flirted and showed an interest back.

Again, since they were already attractive I didn't mind their behavior. It's just gravy that they weren't clingy and didn't pedastalize me.

4) I decided that I wanted to act on that mutual attraction and I let them know that I was open to fooling around. They took the time to find out what I liked in bed and were open and trusting when I asked about their preferences as well, and they respected my boundaries.

I liked that we had fun in bed, and that in the end the men had to do about 100% of the work, and did I mention they were attractive?

5) If and when I decided that it was time to end the benefits part of the FWB, they were understanding, accepting, and went right back to being plain old friends - because we were friends long before there were benefits involved. I acted the same way if they were the ones deciding to end the benefits.

I'm sure that's not how they saw it. They probably just stay friendly just because, they don't really care either way.

Denswend · 2014-07-05T20:47:16+00:00

I see that you have a healthy curiosity for hearing what the other side speaks (as seen with the fuckfest that is PPD), but that other side is very much intolerant of your beliefs, and is coming with preconceived idea that you're the Satan himself. TRP is an organic neoreactionary movement - it sprung up as a fundamental rejection of the feminist part of progressivism while working to create a positive intellectual framework for men to work with. It's bound to be shamed into oblivion. Proggies, or BPs, but you know who I am talking about, are unable to create a valid criticism over TRP and thus they must resort to shaming language - it's all there in the side bar. Misogyny, emotional abuse, racism, xenophobia, etc, etc... It's like hitting subscribe button to TRP will create a mini Auschwitz in your backyard.

Any attempt to reason with person who believes you're Hitler while aware of the shaming mechanisms they employ will leave you unimpressed. It's fun to watch the justifications of it though.

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VarsitySlutTeamCpt · 2014-07-05T20:54:02+00:00

I love how they have no answers at all. If women say they love sex and these men don't know how to attract them..are they just pissing women off? Isn't that misogynist!?

[deleted] · 2014-07-05T20:17:07+00:00

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dallz_beep · 2014-07-05T23:24:43+00:00

This was a gem. I literally loled. Thanks OP.

YouDislikeMyOpinion · 2014-07-06T06:24:20+00:00

I want to fuck an extremely hot woman.

If you're looking to bang the "hottest possible women," that tells me that you're probably using society's definition of attractiveness, rather than your own. And that probably means that what you're actually looking for is the status associated with sleeping with a woman that society considers attractive, rather than the sex itself.

Let me switch it up:

I want to drive an extremely nice car.

If you're looking to drive the "nicest possible car", that tells me that you're probably using society's definition of nice car, rather than your own. And that probably means that what you're actually looking for is the status associated with driving a nice car that society considers attractive, rather than the driving of the car itself.

No, you misunderstand me, I want to drive an extremely nice car because it's extremely nice, that's what makes me want to drive it. While status is one part of it, I would be happy to drive any number of exotic cars without anyone finding out about it.

Moving on.

Let's be real here: A girl has to be really unattractive before it starts making sex less enjoyable.

Clearly doesn't know what the fuck he/she's talking about. I'm pretty sure that all else being equal, enjoyment increases proportionally to hotness.

If all you're looking for his a quickie, then how fun a girl is should be way more important than how conventionally attractive she is.

Or... Or, if I'm looking to drive a car for 15 minutes, I would much rather prefer driving a lambo to a honda sedan that has "great handling" and a "5 star safety system".

But if what you're looking for is being able to brag to your buddies the next day, then how hot they think she is suddenly becomes the main focus.

Or I could just want to fuck a hot girl and not specifically want to brag to my buddies about it. Maybe, just maybe it's possible for me to want to fuck a hot girl exclusive of the "status" of the action.

On to another post.

In my experience, while there are exceptions to the rule, a woman's (conventional, mainstream) beauty is usually inversely proportional to her integrity and mental health. In other words, the hotter she is, the more of a lying, cheating, backstabbing, unstable whore she is likely to be, and therefore, the less you should want to go near her.

Where's the nearest hamplanet line?

Or... Or I could just bang the hot woman, and not put up with her shit. Then I can.. get this.. bang another hot woman! Eureka!

niczar · 2014-07-05T20:22:48+00:00

I love the sidebar: "The name is based on a metaphor; punching of any kind is strongly discouraged."

Damn. I really wanted to punch the god of dreams. For real. Not metaphorically. The god of dreams that exists for real. Fucking retards.

Scoundrel_ · 2014-07-06T02:43:05+00:00

Ya'll gotta understand, these are the guys who gave up long ago on landing 8s, 9s, and 10s. They either convince themselves that the 5s are really what they want, or that they're too good to lower themselves by "learning game" or whatever.

In their minds, either the hot women are golddiggers and shallow, and they wouldn't be happy in a relationship with them anyway, or they'll meet a hot chick and bag her through luck and being nice.

Everyone probably knows at least a couple guys like this in real life.

[deleted] · 2014-07-06T02:50:36+00:00

She's a human being, not a puzzlebox that dispenses sex when solved.

I keep seeing variations on this everywhere. What world do these people live in? Female attraction could barely be more formulaic and predictable. Shit, male attraction is just as formulaic and predictable.

He's partly right: we're not puzzle boxes, we're puzzle boxes with a randomness element. Some moves have higher probabilities than others. But the same move is going to work most of the time. A few counter-examples here and there don't change much. Even pocket aces get cracked sometimes.

bsutansalt · 2014-07-05T23:46:07+00:00

From the comments, straight from the horse's mouth:

"FAMOUS WOMEN CAN'T FIND A MAN" - The Brilliant I…: http://youtu.be/UvewLbzKmMw

RPModulator · 2014-07-05T23:09:11+00:00

Ok, fess up, which one of you were baiting them . . . :)

bullshadow · 2014-07-06T01:56:39+00:00

There are various ways to make yourself more attractive, such as dressing well, grooming yourself, self-confidence, being physically fit, having good social skills

Isn't this all part of what TRP is? I mean it teaches us to better ourselves and to stop idolizing women. It teaches us that we need to be better and that we should be in command of our lives before we can pursue something. It teaches self-respect and how to maintain "frame". TBH these guys want parts of the pill without taking it. To each his own.

BluepillProfessor · 2014-07-06T20:15:37+00:00

That is the kind of proselytizing we need around here guys! He asked a relatively easy question and the hamsters and white knights had NO CLUE. NONE!

That was glorious: "Be attractive." OK thanks...wait. What is "attractive" to a woman again? D...D...Dark Triad perhaps?

select1on · 2014-07-07T05:11:13+00:00

Wow they are being decimated in there, I actually hope some people read the discussions and look at it objectively because many of them are lost and seemingly delusional. I am no plate spinner but I am in a very good LTR by applying RP methods in our relationship and specifically to myself.
How can anyone succeed in life by being passive.

maxmangel · 2014-07-05T22:38:47+00:00

Love your replies man. That's awesome.

SupaPineapple · 2014-07-06T06:08:46+00:00

Men display, women choose. Basic.

temerarious · 2014-07-08T14:50:05+00:00

From the video linked at the bottom:

Every woman got 2 men. One for money and one for dick.

bh3244 · 2014-07-06T05:06:44+00:00

dont get advice from losers and dont ask a fish how to fish.

chakravanti93 · 2014-07-06T13:51:33+00:00

There are a lot of really good analogies in that thread. I like the "puzzle box that puts out when solved."

never_replies_ever · 2014-07-05T22:15:47+00:00

Hey guys. Nice brigade. You do realize that the whole reason people come to our subreddit is because they don't give a shit what you have to say, right?

Drunken_dog · 2014-07-06T04:53:35+00:00

Surprise, surprise its all crap.

ajswdf · 2014-07-06T03:52:42+00:00

There seems to be three flavors of relationship advice; mainstream, PUA, and Red Pill. They all have their flaws.

Mainstream advice is pretty much completely worthless. It's a bunch of people who don't know what they're talking about just saying what they think sounds good.

PUA has some good stuff, but they seem to focus mainly on going to clubs and bars and getting one night stands, which isn't what a lot of guys want. They also rely too heavily on scripted lines, which is a pretty horrible way to go about it.

Red Pill is probably the closest. As a whole, it is a little more open to different types of relationships, and focuses on self improvement rather than lines. But it fails in that it's too conservative and old fashioned. I guess that's ok if you want to live a 1950's lifestyle, but many guys don't. This sub in particular seems to focus too much energy on hating women.

So for somebody like me, who wants to spin plates and never have kids, there really isn't a good place for advice. Red Pill is probably the closest, but even coming here every day I only see a good post once a week or so. The world of dating advice really sucks.

Title	A Query on a sub created in reaction to TRP regarding how THEY advise men to meet the hottest possible women for sex or LTR yields typical laughable results
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Upvotes	85
Comments	91
Date	July 5, 2014 8:04 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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