Assuming no "baggage" is associated with it, how many of you care how many sex partners your girl had in the past?

dropit_sphere · 2013-05-15T22:24:51+00:00

First: Regarding marriage, you should be insecure. In most Western societies, your life can go from hero to zero very quickly if your wife blows the detonator.

So it makes sense to minimize the risk of divorce.

So the question is: does # of former partners have an impact on likelihood of divorce?

Yes: http://socialpathology.blogspot.com/2012/03/promiscuity-data-guest-post.html

Demonspawn · 2013-05-15T22:19:09+00:00

If you do care, please explain how you square this with redpill philosophy.

Because there are things you can tell about a woman based on her number. Specifically for LTR redpillers, the likeliness of her ability to form the emotional bonds which are needed for a long term relationship.

FYI: there's nothing 'insecure' about having standards.

AlwaysLateToThreads · 2013-05-15T22:11:45+00:00

The more sexual partners one has the less likely one is able to pair bond.

rebuildingMyself · 2013-05-15T22:31:29+00:00

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Invincibull · 2013-05-16T01:37:57+00:00

Ah yes, the old "insecurity" ploy. I'd call troll, except I've come across many young guys like you who mistake their low standards for "security" - ("I'll fuck anything, so I'm the most secure man in the world!")

A woman's staying with a man after being with a bunch of guys doesn't usually mean he's the best out of all of them - it could mean she's been burned and is settling, or that she's become aware of her decreasing SMV and is again settling. Typically the progression is from higher quality guys to lower, not the other way around.

The reason any man should steer clear of a girl with a high partner count is that said count indicates low standards and low self-respect. Because unless a girl is moving in a society formed exclusively of classy alpha males, a high partner count means she's been fucking some dogs, and that she doesn't care about quality. Now maybe you enjoy being placed on the same level as bottom-feeding scum, but most men don't.

Also, if a girl gave it up cheaply for a bunch of guys, and then you end up in an LTR with her, you're paying a premium for a cheap slut. Enjoy your leftovers.

-Grey- · 2013-05-15T22:39:08+00:00

It just seems like insecurity.

This is exactly what I see in women, especially when they try to accuse me of being insecure. Can't say it isn't amusing.

thrownaway_MGTOW · 2013-05-15T23:01:19+00:00

Assuming no "baggage"

ROTFLMAO, yeah right... that's like "Assuming the moon is made of green cheese..."

rebuildingMyself · 2013-05-16T05:38:39+00:00

If she's a FWB or a short-term fling, assuming no baggage or STD's, I don't care. In fact, she usually teaches me a few things I didn't know before.

Would I date someone like that long-term? She'll have to make that up in other areas.

Would I marry? Probably not. Marriage isn't just a facebook status change. It's a lifelong emotional and financial committment for men, whether or not she chooses to stay committed. I have the right to be as picky as I want if I am to get married.

jsh1138 · 2013-05-16T13:50:43+00:00

i care, simply because i dont want to be in a relationship with someone who is mentally deranged

think about it, if you are a man or woman and you will fuck anything that moves at any time, how many people are you going to fuck before you find one that you want to fuck more than once and eventually settle into a relationship? 5? 10? not that many

so if you're talking to a girl who is 25 and she's fucked 500 guys, it either means she's insane and none of them want a 2nd crack at her, or it means she's fucking dudes that she doesn't want a 2nd crack at

either way there's something wrong with her

i don't care if a woman has some normal amount of partners but once you're getting over 50ish its indicative of your own mental problems more than it is anything else, and i just dont care to be a part of it

there are plenty of 35-40 year old women with great bodies who have fucked less than 10 guys in their lives, its not like your only choice is to go for the ones that have fucked 300

i mean if club sluts are your thing then fine, i just am not interested in that at all. it literally is the same thing as fucking a prostitute to me

DaddyMonster · 2013-05-16T19:20:46+00:00

The way I see it, just hooking up with a girl who has had too many cocks isn't really a boner killer for most men. Unless she's a complete skank that is. Sexing skanks is, to me, tantamount to smearing a CDC petri dish of mysteries on my dick. Tried it once when I was young and blue pill. Boils on yer junk and pissing razor wire isn't my idea of fun.

Not wanting to have an LTR with a promiscous female is self-preservation, not insecurity. You've already been pointed to info on why LTR's with promiscous women is a bad idea. Most men are instinctually disgusted by the mere thought of having an LTR with a slut.

The thought of wifing up such a woman sends my self-preservation instincts into overdrive. They scream at me:

"Dude, don't be an idiot! You'll be cuckolded, and you'll get half of your stuff stolen when she leaves you for the next idiot. Besides, picture her deceased bukkakke-breath kissing [what you believe are] your children... Picture [what you suppose is] your son being pushed out of that cum bucket of diesease... Picture her kissing you and then hopping on your cock after having snuck out for her weekly bare back gang bang with strange men she found on the internet..."

Ugh...

I used to be firmly in the grip of the blue pill, but not anymore. I am no longer so insecure and needy that I will accept things that go against my core values, preferences and instincts in order to get laid.

Society, feminism, white knights, women I'm not interested in and certain PUAs, would call me sexist, but I don't give a damn. Why should I? I gain nothing of value by compromising myself.

I will NOT rationalize away my feelings as "insecure" or "inconsiderate" or "primitive/sexist" in order to save the feelings of people I have no interest in, or to, supposedly, get more poon. I say supposedly, because in fact, since I rejected the blue pill and started filtering people in general and women in particular, I've gotten more attention from females than ever before.

Embracing my core values has given me confidence and INTEGRITY. It's empowering, and that females dig it is a pleasant side effect.

puredoubt · 2013-05-19T06:50:34+00:00

the problem with your question is there ALWAYS is baggage with it, which is the problem

puredoubt · 2013-05-15T23:16:34+00:00

I care about he willingness to have sex outside of committed relationships. My attraction to her as a potential partner will start to taper off at two or more one night stands.

Gentle-Mang · 2013-05-16T05:15:18+00:00

Whether being promiscuous is good for women or not, that's up to them to decide as its their life.

On the one hand a hot girl will have turned down far more sex than I ever will, and they only have until they hit the wall to enjoy their assets, so I don't begrudge them making that choice and I'm not insecure if a girl has had more experience than me. However due to the correlation between the number of sexual partners a woman has had and failed marriage rates, her magic number would be a conscious factor in any decision to pursue a long-term relationship with a woman. It's just simple risk assessment.

I'd be concerned if a woman's promiscuity was rooted in some kind of mental or emotional problem. Bipolar disorder for example is known to be associated with promiscuous behavior in women. But if a girl just likes having sex and has a healthy relationship with it then I'm not judgmental about it.

I do understand where you're coming from when you wonder why we'd give a shit about this. Personally I think that it is a bit silly to actively study how to seduce women while at the same time admonishing them for having sex. It's like trying to have your cake and eat it too, and I think it comes mostly from rationalized insecurities. Guys need to either get over it or they're going to have trouble living their 'playa' lifestyles.

KeroKeroppi · 2013-05-15T22:20:57+00:00

For me when a girl has a higher number of sexual partners it indicates a lack of self control. This is obviously not a trait that I would want in a girl I was planning on having a relationship with.

kukul · 2013-05-15T22:27:13+00:00

Of course it's crucial to the Red Pill philosophy, read the sidebar.

2013-05-15T22:29:55+00:00

If you are better than the rest, it's irrelevant, though you are upping the difficulty of course the more lenient you are. If I were ever to marry again, which I won't, I would insist on someone who has a history of LTRs. Since she would be as young as possible, that would mean she was either a virgin or was with a few men.

deletedLink · 2013-05-16T01:06:52+00:00

After some number, you just quit counting.

2013-05-16T06:09:04+00:00

Under the "no baggage" assumption zero. However there is always baggage. Assumptions are never satisfied.

Ragnar09 · 2013-05-16T08:02:45+00:00

Like I told you before it's about standards

Annihilate_This · 2013-05-16T18:32:22+00:00

I don't care how many they had if I am just planning on having sex with them (So long as they don't have a disease) However, if I am planning on having a relationship (Which I am realizing is more pointless as I lurk) I will not deal with anything more than 10 sexual partners from the female.

2013-05-16T21:05:39+00:00

I don't think that assumption can be made, because even if someone thinks they have no baggage, might be subconsciously in their psyche waiting to come into play once the hamster is triggered. Rather, maintaining a soft harem would be the best of both worlds

2013-05-16T11:03:23+00:00

Maybe it is a bluepill part of me, but I truly believe that women can be sluts at 20, get it out of their system, and then be loyal housewives at 30. This really depends on many factors, but sometimes it works. You just have to look at the person and use your best judgement. Some are seriously tired of it.

But yeah, for a 22 year old girl I would care.

Seafor_c4 · 2013-05-16T03:54:01+00:00

I honestly don't care how many partners they've had in the past. Part of this is because it creates a very awkward conversation. I don't ask they don't tell. The other side of the coin is where it gets awkward. I can't remember the amount of partners I've had. I lost count. Which when having the "numbers" conversation with a girl is awkward as fuck. I honestly haven't seen anything anywhere that helps with that conversation. A link would be helpful.

I also don't plan on having any LTRs so I don't care about pair bonding. A girl that is dtf for a while is great regardless of sexual history. (as long as she is std free)

The redpill for me has just opened my eyes as to why things are the way they are. It also helps me with the logic as to why game works.

nicethingyoucanthave · 2013-05-16T13:26:36+00:00

I don't care about the exact number, but I do care about the baggage. So if I take your starting assumption of no baggage, then it's not a big deal at all.

But what you need to understand is that when we talk about promiscuity, we are actually talking about the accumulated baggage. That's the whole point.

It's like you coming in here saying, "look guys, I bought a used car with 150,000 miles and it runs just fine, so why are you guys constantly talking about high-mileage cars being a bad deal?" - you're missing the point. "Mileage" is just shorthand for "wear and tear" and if you happen to have found a high-mileage car with no wear and tear then great! But in general, the two things are related.

shamanbard · 2013-05-16T16:16:19+00:00

Getting to the conversation late, so I may simply be repeating what others have said.

Sluts are great in bed, easy to bed, and they're usually fun to hang out with too. But for a long term relationship or marriage, they are worthless. Too many alpha cocks means increased divorce or cheating rate, or the chance that the children you raise may not be biologically yours. Even if you are an alpha guy, she's had dozens of them before, and everyone of them was probably better than you in at least one way: taller, better body, more handsome, bigger dick, made more money, was more fun, more athletic, etc.

I don't have a problem with sluts, but then again, I have no plans to ever get married, so it doesn't matter. They make my job easier.

KeroKeroppi · 2013-05-16T00:40:55+00:00

Personally, have no problem with it. In my anecdotal experience women with more partners have been more open-minded sexually and have had less insecurities, leading to better sex.

I care about if they are open and honest. If they are able to do that with a high number of past partners, then awesome.

I am not interested in marriage, but have had several long term romantic partners (at 32yo).

canesugar · 2013-05-16T04:25:19+00:00

The comments on here disgust me. This is a complete double standard. Comparing a woman who has had a lot of sex to a prostitute is ridiculous, and a woman with experience should not be a negative thing. I'm so sick of men holding women to standards like this.

Title	Assuming no "baggage" is associated with it, how many of you care how many sex partners your girl had in the past?
Author	puredoubt
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Date	May 15, 2013 10:07 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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