Don't be the guy...

NeopolitanAfterglow · 2015-04-06T18:17:39+00:00

Don't be the guy who asks girls on a date. Be the guy who asks girls over for sex.

It's negotiating 101. You never open with a "reasonable" offer. She can accept, make a counter offer, or she can choose to be offended and walk away. Whichever way, you've pretty much killed any chance of being friendzoned.

markfeel · 2015-04-07T00:32:11+00:00

Before I came to TRP the friendzone was always a big mystery. I'd get friendzoned and spend hours trying to figure out what the friendzone is, if it even exists, and how to avoid or get out of it. It seemed like there were so many theories and possibilities. But it's really so fucking simple, and most young guys don't know it.

Being friendzoned is simply when the girl is not sexually attracted to you. That is literally all it is. And the only way to get out is....to become attractive to her (by lifting, and everything else we talk about on here...) It's not misandry or "wrong" for a girl to friendzone a guy, and it's not misogynistic to recognize that the friendzone is a real thing. It's just a simple reality. Yet people get so caught up in such a simple thing...Thank god I found this place.

49ered · 2015-04-06T22:29:53+00:00

Sadly enough, for a lot of guys who were former beta males growing up spending their adolescence in front of videogames and the internet, you have to understand that a hug and a kiss on the cheek is a huge step up (and I hate to sound like this). I hate to sound this pessimistic but it is so true. Younger girls will literally (pay close attention to this word) avoid guys their age who aren't in the top 20%. So many guys are going with hugs, kisses, and even interactions with decent looking women in the USA because a lot of decent looking women feel entitled to the tall and handsome prince charming. Just to spend time with a girl that is a 7 or an 8 is a huge step up for these guys. Guys aren't getting friend zoned anymore, they're practically invisible to women. I mean that in the sense that these guys could get seriously injured in public and a group of girls that are young and attractive walking will not give a crap, it is that bad. Among kids raised in repressed households (religious or immigrant parents) who have had little to no interactions in the dating game growing up, this is also true.

As much as we might talk about ideology on TRP (and I love that), I feel like there needs to be some sort of a guide like the one you have posted here. A guide that will be mandatory reading on the sidebar because so many guys come into the game without any knowledge of escalation and moving forward.

Some sort of guide where you can just outline scenarios that lead to lays vs those that do not. I feel like this will be very beneficial to the incels on here who make up a sizable number of the populace.

windowkicker · 2015-04-06T21:03:57+00:00

Anyone else never been friendzoned? Even in my beta days I was never that "friendly" with girls. I think deep down I still had a certain ability to be true to myself and not hang out with girls that I wasn't fucking.

tallwheel · 2015-04-07T04:42:13+00:00

We've literally been taught that becoming a girl's "friend" first is the proper way to go about courtship these days. Unfortunately, it's one of the slowest ways possible to go about hooking up. It's not impossible (I accomplished it once in my BP days), but it requires literally undoing the entire image of yourself she has built up of you as a beta orbiter and not a sexual interest. You're much better off starting from square one with a girl, keeping an air of mystery than trying to hook up with a female "friend".

Lyraless · 2015-04-07T07:30:09+00:00

From what I've seen and heard around me, a lot of frienzoned guys didn't even make a move in the first place. They are like waiting for some kind of magic to happen and hopping the girl will realize it by herself. C'mon I can understand if they feel rejected after doing a move but just waiting and bitching about it is ridiculous.

It's kinda symptomatic of how society rise men nowadays. They have created a huge gap between what men think will work and what women truly expect.

What's funny is when you heard women talking about the lack of romance whereas guys are the truly romantic one.

enticingasthatmaybe · 2015-04-06T19:24:46+00:00

This is for all the recovering beta's and those still suffering from oneitis.

Every man suffering through the friendzone knows exactly why he is there. We don't need to foster awareness... we need to teach these simps how to grow a set of fucking balls.

gmflag · 2015-04-07T00:49:34+00:00

I was once that guy....2x. I still cringe at my past self. Well at least I learned now, but god damn. I have learned to err on over-aggression now. Better to have a pair of balls and have a good story to tell than be a man with nothing to show or talk about.

cascadecombo · 2015-04-07T07:24:31+00:00

"You're gonna break a lot of hearts someday."

Be the one who can easily reply, "I already have been."

starvinmarvin30 · 2015-04-07T07:38:29+00:00

As a guy who's never been in the "Friendzone", my advise is once you have the opportunity to smash, take it and lay it down correctly because this is your audition to become number 1 on her list of booty calls as well.

There were a few hot ones I've layed down sub-par pipe to and never got a 2nd chance at it. Just bring your "A game" is all I'm saying.

dancing_junkie · 2015-04-07T11:18:15+00:00

Is anybody else off put by a chick that would spend that much time getting ready? Girl if you can't get ready in less than 45 how good looking could you really be?

ChristianGraysBoss · 2015-04-07T15:07:01+00:00

Be a renegade, not a wenis. Be a scoundrel, not a pussy. Be a rascal, not a doofus.

Words to live by.

menergize · 2015-04-08T00:20:07+00:00

Her: "We aren't on the same page, won't get along fundamentally"

You: "We got along pretty well fundamentally when I was banging your brains out the other night."

Title	Don't be the guy...
Author	[deleted]
Upvotes	135
Comments	76
Date	April 6, 2015 6:03 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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