I ditched a 9 at the bar last night.

nicethingyoucanthave · 2013-06-21T20:55:18+00:00

This reminds me of a funny story. The most disrespected I've ever been on a date, and it wasn't even the first date, was a girl who ran into a guy friend and had a long conversation while I sat there bored. I will never forget this - you aren't going to believe it, she finished her drink and handed the empty glass to me. Like, not only am I ignoring you, but you're my servant, go fetch me another.

So of course, I left. Blue-pill loser that I was, I had a limit.

Well, she texts me asking where I went. And later in the night she texts me that she's too drunk to drive and can't believe that I left her. So I tell her where to meet me, where cabs are lined up. When she arrives I open the door of the cab for her. She sits down; I close the door and walk off.

So, ditched her twice. But I didn't want her to try to drive.

Anyway yeah, if a girl is ignoring me on a date, I'm out of there. And similarly, if I ignore her (which I have never and would not do) she would be justified in ditching me. Good on you.

God, I still remember what she was wearing that night. I probably could have salvaged a relationship out of it, but this was a long time ago.

chiffonade- · 2013-06-21T18:55:27+00:00

"how old are you!?"

http://exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/shaming-tactics/

Charge of Puerility (Code Green) – The Peter Pan Charge

Discussion: The target is accused of being immature and/or irresponsible in some manner that reflects badly on his status as an adult male. Examples:

“Grow up!” “You are so immature!” “Do you live with your mother?” “I’m not interested in boys. I’m interested in real men.” “Men are shirking their God-given responsibility to marry and bear children.” Response: It should be remembered that one’s sexual history, marital status, parental status, etc. are not reliable indicators of maturity and accountability. If they were, then we would not hear of white collar crime, divorce, teen sex, unplanned pregnancies, extramarital affairs, etc.

Staple_Stable · 2013-06-21T19:05:48+00:00

You really shouldn't be taking a girl to places where there's a high chance she'll see her freinds.

Its her battlefield and you don't wanna go in it a disadvantage.
Shit test galore.

zionController · 2013-06-21T19:35:06+00:00

It knocks a 9 down a very significant peg to be walked out on by someone. She respects you now, whether she likes it or not, and she will remember that moment everytime she checks her smartphone in someone's company.

Well done.

SoftHarem · 2013-06-21T18:59:16+00:00

Deserve? DESERVE! I'm glad you found your balls and froze her out. Stories like this make all the effort worth it.

Clauderoughly · 2013-06-21T20:03:31+00:00

She was interested in the promoter, because he gives her access to drugs, and famous cock to suck.

Also, he'll tell her he can "make her famous" and she is stupid enough to believe it.

She may have been a 9, but you really blown out of the water when the promoter came into the picture, because she perceives him as having a higher value than you.

You did the right thing by leaving.

redpillschool · 2013-06-21T18:49:16+00:00

How old are you!?

Classic response. If women want us to stop stereotyping them, they should come up with something new to say.

pirateundies · 2013-06-21T19:38:05+00:00

I like you.

James_Coook · 2013-06-21T18:55:34+00:00

You did the right thing...don't reply...this validation whore can get her fix somewhere else.

czk · 2013-06-22T11:41:42+00:00

I am confused. You got asked to go out with a girl, friends only, not a date, and you both make that clear when asked, that you both are seeing someone else. Ok, so my understanding now is that you're both friends. This is not a date.

Now when you ask her to dance and she's with her friend, and she says no to you, you leave. Ok, so you don't want to be treated as second best. What I don't understand now is how you feel that you have the right to have her attention foremost, when someone else was talking to her first. It sounds like you interrupted the conversation she was having with her friend. If you are only just a friend, then my understanding of friendship is, you and her promoter friend are both equal, and you adhere to social etiquette, that is, you don't interrupt someone who is speaking first and you wait until you have her attention, like any other friend would. So, I am now thinking, you don't want her to treat you like a friend. You want to get in her pants.

Ok, I am getting it. This is how society operates. Things are not as simple and direct as asking for what you want like "I want to have sex with you, do you want to have sex with me?" and she clearly tells you truthly "Yes" or "No".

Right, so let me revise my understanding now. By going out with her, you're implying interest and that you want more. Now I am going to make a very bold assumption. With her asking you out, I bet she literally isn't interested in you and has no intention of dating you (I know I'd do the same thing - ask a guy out, make it known that it is friends only, and mean it). Remember guys and girls think differently. Most girls think guys and girls can be friends, most guys think that's impossible unless the girl is super, super ugly. So in your perspective, you feel right to ditch her, but in her perspective, you seem petty and immature for ditching her. You're both right. I don't see why she is the bad guy.

Ok, I get it. This is a safe haven for guys to talk and rant and not feel judged. Right, I understand that, and that's ok. Girls do it plenty.

Ok, now to the bit where she said she was going to quit facebook and then she's looking at facebook. That is contradictory. So here is one instance where she says one thing and doesn't 'mean' it, because she's contradicting her words and her actions. I don't know what to say to that, except that I don't think it is gender specific. Maybe because of that, you're assuming when she asks you out, that there's more to it than that, even if she tells you this is not a date. Now I understand why you'd think it could be a date, yet it could also be literally, just friends hanging out together. Who knows who is right. Correlation does not imply causation.

Anyway, that was just my brain dump, thinking about your post.

tl;dr: trying to understand guy and girl social interaction.

Passthejelly · 2013-06-22T00:42:54+00:00

Wow I am definitely not on your level at all but this post really inspires me. Respect.

EtovNowd · 2013-06-22T01:57:41+00:00

Because I find that my hobbies and physical fitness pursuits are much more rewarding uses of my time. (Which is sad)

Not sad, it's called putting your self first.

Her friend looks jealous and asks if we are on a date

The answer is 'yes'. You only hang out with women for dates, they're not buddies (not being sexist but honest) because if she was a buddy, she'd be helping you get laid with other girls (winging). Obviously she didn't/wasn't, then what's the point of hanging out with her?

We both reply no, the girl I was with tells me shes seeing someone.

Put her on blast, ask her why she's there with you? (we all know why, obviously) If she says "we're just friends/hanging out" be like "Oh, I thought this was a date. Then you won't mind if I go talk over here" and do your thing.

Ha! So I grab her arm and tell her let's go dance.

Why? If she was talking to another dude/person, you should've been talking to someone else. You're just as sociable as she is. You're cool, why not go do you at a club. Very few dudes like to dance, and all you really need to do is just sway to the music or bob your head to get attention from females. You should've been enjoying the music.

She tells me no, wait, he's showing me something it's important. Then boxes me out of the set. Shits going way south.

That's because she's shown that she's more valuable than you are by: 1) saying it's not a date, 2) speaking to other dudes [even if it's a friend, what guy has female friends they don't want to bang esp if she's a 9] and 3) the fact that you had to come up to her and physically alter the set by grabbing her and asking her to dance.

You should've established value by talking to anyone around you, guy or girl, employee or non-employee, to show that you are valuable and sociable. Never cock-block another dude on your chick, because this shows jealousy, and territorial aspect come into play. Then she has to respond by claiming she's not territory, no one's 'date' etc, and that just sets you out anyways. You should go in with the aspect of "this girl can talk to anyone she wants because I'm taking her home and banging her".

If you "know" this will happen, then you'll never be in competition with other people, then you'll never have a frame-of-mind in which you're winning or losing, because if you "know" you're gonna bang her, you're always winning.

Took her about ten minutes before I get a text asking if I was still there

I wouldn't have answered if I had left. If I was still, I would've been talking to people. I wouldn't have replied either way, but I would've made it known that I saw her text but was to busy to reply. I'm more off value than she is.

How old are you!? I hadn't seen him in a while and he was showing me something important. I don't deserve to be left like that. Take care.

I would've never gotten to this place, but if I did I would've replied with, "peace." End conversation.

tl;dr if she replied like that then that means you gave off an emotional display that deserved that as a response.

If you were really comfortable with your self, as soon as you say her talking to her promoter and known it was her friend I would've let him chop it up with her. I'm never gonna cock-block another dude from getting laid. So I'll let them do their thing, and I'll go on about my way to try to get laid on other avenues.

Her response was lame, but who cares. Girls are hypocritical. If I were you, and you still wanted to bang her, I'd start dating her friends and bang them. She'll come around because like you said "Like any girl can quit a nonstop source of validation." and girls don't like to feel less valuable then their 'friends'

p.s.

I'm not criticizing you in any way. What I'm telling you is what I had to teach/train myself to do because I would always be swallowing the blue pill. I tell you this, because your story reminds me of what I used to do. It's not a criticism, but a self-analysis.

Good luck man.

confessionsbear · 2013-06-21T19:52:59+00:00

How the fuck is this redpill at all. You pouted and went home. You should have told her "okay" then started hitting on another chick there, having fun until your date got done talking with whoever. That's when you gauge whether she's worth it or not. If it takes her 10 seconds to get away from her friend and come back to you, cool. If it takes her 10 minutes, you know she clearly doesn't give a shit about you. Plus you get to talk to other chicks there and try to pick them up. Win-win.

What you did was childish. Shit, man.

chikinpickle · 2013-06-21T18:51:25+00:00

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Deldar · 2013-06-22T03:09:59+00:00

OP took a line that was higher expected value than just standing around waiting for her to rejoin his company, but a higher expected value line existed where he went and chatted with randos at the bar.

If this were poker, he check/folded > check/call,, but check/raising >>> every other line.

KetoJennic · 2013-06-22T04:21:11+00:00

There's always a chance she will think you were so into her you left out of jealousy. That wouldn't be good. Either way, thank you for ditching her, from someone who deplores rude phone usage.

2013-06-23T00:10:16+00:00

No female is worth putting up with bullshit like that. Good on ya.

Invincibull · 2013-06-22T04:53:07+00:00

I did not reply. I went home, deleted her #, and went to bed.

Well done. As long as they can get a rise out of you, in their mind, they win.

The more guys that grow a pair and stop putting up with bullshit like you did, the more spoiled bitches will begin to wake up.

JamieValentine · 2013-07-18T13:11:39+00:00

that 9 is a cunt, fair play for having the balls to walk outta there. bravo

lono12 · 2013-06-22T16:03:52+00:00

you acted like a pissy girl. You left when she went to use the bathroom, came back and tried to drag her away when she was looking at something on someones phone, and then when she said no you went home and deleted her number. ok.

haterandhypocrite · 2013-06-22T17:44:44+00:00

She may call/text you later. She respects you now and will think about you. Let us know what happens when she does.

tookie_tookie · 2013-06-22T21:24:53+00:00

I don't understand why you bounced when she went to the washroom. You could have just talked to the promoter or anyone. A girl can't go to the washroom? Dafuqq

AlwaysLateToThreads · 2013-06-22T06:22:03+00:00

You're the man Cat Man! I respect your self-respect.

Sword11 · 2013-06-23T01:39:01+00:00

I feel I should relate my story:

Dated a high demand chick in college, we broke up.. But kept in touch. I was mildly red pill and despite her wanting me to visit I never did.

Few years later she was on a reality tv show and had to come to CA where I was. I said OK to her staying with me and we had tons of sex. She ended the trip by telling me she didn't want a relationship. OK fine by me.

She had to come back again for a TV thing and stayed with me again. Then she ditched me at the parties she brought me to, was flirting with other people (normal for her) and more.

I got hit on, talked politely then excused myself. She laid into me for "embarrassing" her, "I bet you didn't even get her number did you... You can't get a girls number." Infront of everyone.

I went and got that girls number after that. Huge fight... Haven't talked to the TV girl in about a year and yes I did the right thing. Fuck her.

Since then I have actually pulled down countless worthwhile girls, have had a great time, and wild adventures.

I really am glad I finally cut loose of her it was a huge weight off me

OceanRacoon · 2013-06-23T13:36:26+00:00

Hold on a second. You made plans to go out dancing? And; "So I have not been actively pursuing women. Because I find that my hobbies and physical fitness pursuits are much more rewarding uses of my time."

I think there's something else going on here.

2013-06-22T01:54:22+00:00

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2013-06-22T04:01:02+00:00

Maybe you were boring... Why didn't you spin her to the dance floor.

Title	I ditched a 9 at the bar last night.
Author	chikinpickle
Upvotes	67
Comments	136
Date	June 21, 2013 6:40 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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