Loneliness is a POWERFUL force. Getting laid can be so difficult. Getting close to leaving TRP, please tell me I'm wrong

Stayinghereforreal · 2013-10-18T12:38:57+00:00

Quit trying to meet a quality woman in bars and nightclubs.

Quit trying to build your life in the hopes of making some woman happy enough to stay with you. instead, build your life so you are satisfied and proud enough of your achievements that a quality woman with something to offer will recognize that and want to be a part of that life.

Quit writing 1,000 words when 100 would do.

bullyfootrookie · 2013-10-18T12:32:39+00:00

You're making getting laid a priority so of course the loneliness is going to take over. I equate loneliness to boredom, you have to fill your life with other things or you're just going to become their slave all over again.

per1klez · 2013-10-18T14:45:08+00:00

Patrice O'Neal: A loser is a man that allows a woman, his career, his car, his house, etc. to make his happiness. This whole long winded rant about how you can't get a girl to be with you just shows that you have the wrong expectations with game and your future. If you go out and it feels like work, you're doing it wrong. This was very annoying to read because you sound like a whiny bitch, what chick would want to be with that? Just sayin

test_ost · 2013-10-18T20:57:46+00:00

First off, when men get these out-of-control emotions there's a good chance estrogen is too high. This doesn't mean it's anywhere near female levels, or high compared to a reference range, but it's too high relative to what your brain needs to keep things in order. Get some anastrozole.

This is especially true for young guys because high testosterone means there's more conversion to estrogen. Some guys just have higher conversion than others; anastrozole (or equivalent) is the difference between being a rock and being emo.

Second, you can't have a crisis of faith about empirical evidence. The Red Pill involves the observation that "if you let your game slip or your guard down, she'll eventually grow contemptuous of you and leave."

Girls aren't there to take care of you or coddle you; they are biologically programmed to keep testing you for fitness. Think of it like play-fighting: They want to wrestle AND they want you to win. Not LET you win, they want you to TAKE the victory from their grasp.

Sometimes they act pouty or upset about losing, but their attraction for you is directly related to how big of a gulf there is between your abilities and theirs. (More about this below)

They will get over losing, but if YOU start losing, they will get over YOU.

They don't even want to win by making you feel sorry for them so you lose on purpose. Because that is a DANGER SIGN to them that says you are vulnerable to emotional manipulation, and for all they know you will get manipulated by other women, and stepped on by men.

It's very much like kicking the tires. You can't always tell by looking.

That last word is a hint -- YOU can tell if a girl is fit just by looking. You fitness-test her every time you check out her body or her face.

As long as she LOOKS youthful and appealing, you will be attracted to her.

By the same token, as long as you STAY STRONG and don't take any shit from anyone, she will be attracted to you.

This doesn't necessarily mean monogamy; there are other girls who LOOK HOT and there are other guys who MAINTAIN THEIR COOL.

There is some evidence that women are biologically programmed to seek a series of mates at roughly 4-year intervals; the time it takes to get pregnant, gestate, and raise an infant to be able to speak and toddle along, no longer totally helpless.

Biochemical research points to a natural four-year sexual cycle for the human female. This apparently allows enough time after childbirth for the average mother in a state of savagery to regain her ability to survive without male provisioning. In the absence of any system of marriage, a woman’s natural tendency is to “liberate” herself from her mate after that point. When her hormones prompt her to reproduce again, she simply takes a new mate.

http://www.counter-currents.com/2011/06/rotating-polyandry-and-its-enforcers-part-1/

However -- and this is a big however -- birth control has completely changed the landscape.

Why does she ride the cock carousel? Possibly because every male is effectively sterile. She's looking for a fit mate to reproduce with, but she's not getting pregnant because of the Pill, condoms, etc.

Now getting back to what I said about the attraction being related to the gulf between you and her, this means that if YOU have money but she doesn't, the power differential makes you attractive. However, if you GIVE HER half your money then you have just wiped out the attraction gradient. Her power is now equal to yours.

This is the other reason why you must never lavish gifts upon her (beyond things like not buying drinks). She's attracted to HOW FAR ABOVE HER you are.

Everything you've ever heard about equality is wrong from the standpoint of attraction. When you are equal to her, there is no more DYNAMIC. It's the difference between a combustible chemical reaction... and what happens post-reaction, when everything is stable and neutralized. Think of that science class experiment, the baking soda volcano -- as long as there is a base and an acid it will react. You put the Mentos in her Coca-Cola. AS NEEDED. You do not open up all the Coca-Colas in the fridge and pre-Mentos them in case she wants one later.

And you always make her pay in kind for each thing you do. You don't let her go 2 weeks refusing sex; if she stops giving you sex, you stop giving her relationship. Full stop.

ALWAYS keep your life separate. You are a bouncer in your own club, and you must only let in the girls who are behaving right, and you must immediately bounce any girls who are not.

This means DO NOT LIVE TOGETHER.

Once again, her attraction = Your Power = What you have that she doesn't, THAT YOU CAN TAKE AWAY.

You MUST be able to kick her out. NO EXCEPTIONS. And no, it's not just as good if you stay at her place and can leave -- you need to be the MAN WITH THE TERRITORY that you can claim and defend from all interlopers.

-- Continued in Part 2 --

redpillwolf · 2013-10-18T12:27:09+00:00

| The things I was putting myself through just to get my next lay

This is your crisis of faith right here. A quick search of your posting history pretty much confirms this. You seem to be engaging in self-improvement for the sake of women, as opposed to solely for yourself. You are still validating your own self worth based on your interactions with women. That is a losing game.

I think you need to reevaluate what your personal goals are, both short and long-term. 10 months ago you're posting about forcing yourself to like open-relationships in polyamory, then you're all RP and in childfree, and now you don't know anymore. I'm not judging, and I'm sure I'm glossing over finer details. Point is, I don't see much cohesion.

_Reticent_ · 2013-10-18T12:52:26+00:00

OP, I can kinda understand where you're coming from, although I haven't been in that position for years. Look at what you value in life, write it down and come back to it from time to time to remind yourself. We have shitty days.

TRP is a mixture of things, broken down into the big lumps, what I take are:

Self-improvement, self-analysation, self-understanding and self-confidence. All of these will lead to self-belief.
Understanding the behaviour that women use consciously or unconsciously to gain power (for lack of an easier word) over our hearts, minds and actions: noticing it, fixing it, avoiding it.
Related to the second point, the knowledge and experience of this can lead to successful sexual relations with one or more multiple women. If you're very lucky, and you have nailed point 1, you may one day find a woman ideal for you as some have done (but it's not many).

Unfortunately nowhere have we ever claimed that any of this is to avert loneliness, it hasn't even entered the equation in most discussions. I can't speak for us all, but I'm not a lonely person because I enjoy me; I seek no outside validation because, to quote the ancient samurai master Musashi Miamoto:

There is nothing outside of yourself that can ever enable you to get better, stronger, richer, quicker, or smarter. Everything is within. Everything exists. Seek nothing outside of yourself.

This wasn't always the case, and there are always times when we feel low, but these days the only thing that knocks my ego is myself (if I let myself do it), and even then I have to respect that my ego there to do a job, and it shouldn't always be listened to.

I'll say to myself 'I can't pick up this weight right now, but I'll be damned if I don't pick it up eventually'. That's self belief mixed with goal setting, dedication and determination. That's just a small example. When you achieve it, that's you, on your own steam.

Now what woman can do that to you, or for you?

Archwinger · 2013-10-18T13:42:43+00:00

TRP is not all about gaming women and seduction and getting laid and refusing to commit or ever have any kind of LTR. (Many RP men are involved in relationships, some are even married.) Game and seduction and accumulating an entire china cabinet of plates is one aspect of TRP that makes a lot of sense given some of the thoughts that are advocated, but remember, first and foremost: THE RED PILL IS ABOUT MEN, NOT ABOUT WOMEN.

Being Mr. Big Bad Alpha RP guy is about being the best man you can be, and doing it on your terms. It’s not about being a mountain man hermit and shunning having actual connections with women out of some kind of religious dogma. TRP’s not a cult.

TRP is about self-improvement and truth. If a man fully understands and recognizes the differences between men and women, what we want and what they want, what we seek in partners/relationships and what they seek, and he masters skills to manipulate and navigate those circumstances so that he’s happy and can get what he wants, at least most of the time, his eyes are open. There’s no hard and fast “rule” that says “no relationships ever!!!” That’s not a bad policy, at least for some guys, given what some of the uncomfortable truths we face are, but if TRP helps a man to understand the truth, and he enters a relationship with his eyes wide open, fully recognizing all of the transactions, power plays, tests, and exchanges he’s in for, then TRP’s done its job. That man has a chance of doing just fine in his relationship, because he’s entering with reasonable expectations and a good strategy for keeping things the way he wants them, and when the relationship inevitably fails, he’s not caught by surprise and broken by the woman. He had a good time, a good run, and got what he wanted while it lasted.

Go connect, just do it with reasonable, real world expectations, and game the fuck out of your LTR every night to make sure you stay relevant and interesting to her. But seriously, don’t get married or have kids.

no_game_player · 2013-10-18T12:25:29+00:00

Brevity is the heart of wit.

Edit: The way I see it, you have two choices: go down the road you describe or learn to be as comfortable by yourself as with the Platonic (in the sense of ideal) woman. As the Buddha said: "desire is the root of all suffering". The only way to end your suffering is to end your desire.

Does that sound logical or easy? No. But it is the only way apart from what you fear.

deepsouthscoundrel · 2013-10-18T13:43:24+00:00

How these guys think, are they on the right track? I know the answer from this audience will be "No", and my logical mind knows that is the right answer, but my emotions are leaving me with an overwhelming desire to connect with women and never feel the sense of isolation I do now.

Loneliness is not the worst thing in the world, so long as you enjoy who you are. Being stuck in a relationship with a woman who isn't right for you is pretty much terrible.

Rumble_in_the_Jungle · 2013-10-18T15:27:11+00:00

Take a look at this, this, and this.

These guys don't have looks, money, or women, but they're just chillin and living an awesome life.

The problem isn't this sub-reddit, or women, or anything else. The problem is you.

Bro, go do things that make you happy. Life isn't about girls - it's about being excellent.

[deleted] · 2013-10-18T13:01:41+00:00

I think what you have to understand, is your desire for 'game' will come and go in cycles, similar to the economic boom/bust cycle.

You will go through periods of 'Game is the best shit ever! I can't wait to go out and score some pussy!' Right through to 'Is game really the answer? Surely there is more to life' etc etc.

Once you identify and accept this process, you can begin to suppress the peaks and troughs, become less outcome dependent, and generally remove yourself further from the Matrix. This in time will diminish/remove this cognitive dissonance that you feel. High quality women will flock to you and a zen feeling will wash over you.

That being said, I hear what the OP is saying. Just last night I was chirpsing on two very attractive girls, but I didn't step up for the close as the UK female market has left me feeling very disillusioned with the entire process. The outcome: they got bored and flocked to the rapper 'Chipmunk' and his entourage (no joke). At the time I convinced myself I didn't care, but woke up feeling different.

TL;DR - Take a step back, realise why you are feeling this way and take the correct steps to alleviate the problem. Also step up and close, otherwise a rapper and his cronies will 'mr steal ur gurl!'

b_dubya · 2013-10-18T14:34:21+00:00

At the risk of being repetitive, here's my $.02

You've been shown a path of how to be a master craftsman. Instead you got something from IKEA, followed the instructions, and want people to admire it. It doesn't fulfill you and you can't get validation/respect/admiration from others for your IKEA product.

A master craftsman doesn't seek external validation. He has his own pride in what he does, he does his best according to his standards. He becomes famous because other people notice his mastery of his profession. He doesn't care, he doesn't require that they notice him or not. He has his own validation, self-worth, self-esteem.

TRP is the same way. Take pride in yourself, your achievements, your qualities. You don't need external validation. You're crying I followed the instructions, but I still want the oneitis and not have to game anymore.

Well guess what, real TRP, doesn't just change the outer you, it also changes the inner you. Don't require external validation, take pride in your accomplishments, realize the true nature of others around you and don't forget it. Remove the illusions others suffer through.

Your buddy will be single again, he will crash hard. He will cry 'I did TRP it doesn't work', just like you're crying now. He may get married have kids, then suffer through a divorce. You guys followed some basic instructions to change your outside, but your inner selves did not change. Sorry, it's not that easy. It's a life's work. It's being a master craftsman.

Good luck.

musicvita25 · 2013-10-18T13:32:34+00:00

Here's youre problem, you are stressing over it. I've recently had thoughts like this, but realized that shit, Ive got no time to even bother about that shit.

You need to realize that banging girls, having a gf, is good, but not the purpose of life. Purpose of life is to live it well and enjoy it, keep yourself so damn busy.

I got back into gaming, as winter approaches, its cold as shit up, as well as the gym, work, seeing friends, family, watching soccer, going out, eating out, watching movies, reading, researching, writing, and so on, I realize that I dont have time for a girlfriend, let a lone a date.

Keep busy

nowboarding · 2013-10-18T11:42:00+00:00

Tell a guy who isn't getting laid not to latch on to the first girl he meets, he won't hear it. With guys who accept TRP but aren't able to build a stable of attractive women, they accept that they will get a few months of affection and sex from a beautiful woman and are perfectly happy to do that knowing with alarming accuracy how that relationship will come to an end. If I can't learn to get multiple women in my life, I'll become this guy, jumping from relationship to relationship, each lasting for a few months at the expense of my long-term growth and development. I really want to continue the progress I'm making in my beliefs and mindset and who I am as a man, but if I can't pick up women, the sting of loneliness and isolation will drive me into exclusive relationships for the wrong reasons.

Can you see why this prospect worries me?

What do I need to do to bring women into my life? What do I do today, what do I do tomorrow, what do I do for the next month? What does a guy who has been spinning his wheels in the game for years really need to do to start really getting traction? Is it a game issue, or is that I'm trying to be something I'm not, in terms of my attitude and desires towards women and relationships?

Petrarch1603 · 2013-10-18T12:51:14+00:00

It sounds like you're just stuck in a rut and frustrated. This is normal and it will get better. If you're not having fun at clubs, stop going. There's nothing wrong with going a few months without getting laid. Don't let that frustration control you, you gotta own that frustration, not the other way around.

karneadou · 2013-10-18T13:21:01+00:00

Read this: The effective ratio! http://amaninasia.wordpress.com/2013/10/17/the-effective-ratio/

Their is nothing wrong with you. TRP is the right way. I live in a country in W. Europe where woman rule. Percentages favor woman big time! Go out to a club and it's literally 4 guys to 1 girl. Every girl has a boyfriend/husband and another 2-3 guys on the side. Its an utter mess. As an alpha I simply don't place myself in situations where I see the effective ratio benefiting the woman.

What to do. Work on yourself for yourself. Save up, be patient, and pick your spots, spots where the effective ratio places you in the driver's seat.

When I get free time..I bolt to places like Russia, Ukraine, Romania....paradise!

Location is a big deal, and while last night you went to a club and saw all those ladies go home, confident in their dominance over their bfs and betas males, try to find locations (local or otherwise) where the ratios are in your favor. Clubs, bars etc...in W. Euorpe and the US are for the most part losing affairs. You can't win in these places and will just go home defeated (not all the time, but many times). If need be get on a plane, go to Asia, Latin America or Eastern Europe and get back in touch with your alpha self.

JamieValentine · 2013-10-18T15:06:45+00:00

hang in there mate - cypher tried to get himself re-plugged and look where that got him.

[deleted] · 2013-10-18T15:12:22+00:00

First off you're doing it wrong.

You don't do all this to meet women. You do all this because you want to.

If you don't want to, don't do it. But above all DON'T DO IT FOR A WOMAN. Do it for yourself.

Build your life so that you are happy, not so that a woman will be happy with you.

You are lonely because you are bored. Find things to do. Find things that YOU want to do.

LMS_THEORY · 2013-10-18T11:51:21+00:00

TL;DR

but in reply to words in bold, TRP is not meant for the alpha. It's for the non-alpha male to realize you don't have to be coerced into relationships with arrogant, self-serving women, and if you do, your life can be a living hell.

Zackcid · 2013-10-18T14:16:26+00:00

First off, take a step back and realize that you're already better off than 99% of guys out there because you're actually going out and trying to meet girls. You are part of the top 1%

I understood very clearly, as I was coming home from a bad night in the club, just how painful it can feel to be lonely and how difficult it can be to bring beautiful women into your life.

I hope you understand that in whatever fucking circumstance in life, the moment you fall into depressive thinking, EVERYTHING will seem much worse and uglier than it really is. It's really important to realize this. Your brain will play tricks on you and make you believe that everything is shit because your mind, at that moment, is addicted to negative emotions so it'll try to cling to depressive thought by giving you these negative thoughts.

Despite being tall, attractive, and fit

Let go of this. This is nonsense because looks don't matter. If you're gonna brag about anything (and I know you weren't bragging), at least make it about accomplishments you achieved through hard work in life. Thinking that you're tall and handsome will set you up for failure from the start. Why? Well, what do you think happens when you start getting rejected? You begin to introspect and doubt yourself. You'll start asking shit like: "What if....what if I'm not really as good looking as I thought I was? What if I'm actually UGLY?" This self-destructive thinking will fuck your Game up so bad.

spent the last several hours in a loud and dangerously crowded club getting rejected

When we're in a dry spell, it's shitty as fuck. But when we're in State and have the ball rolling, I can't even handle all the girls that are into me. Life usually works like that. If you're failing, it'll shit on you even more, but if you're winning, it'll reward you even more. I saw a documentary today on testosterone and how it goes up and down depending on external factors. For example, if a girl gives you her number, you'll feel feel victorious and great about yourself. This in turn makes you more attractive and more girls will like you. Same concept applies to when you're getting rejected a lot.

watching many, many scorchingly hot young girls leaving the club giggling and wide-eyed with passion

Working at a nightclub, I gotta admit that I get this on my bad nights as well. I'd get bitter at seeing these cunts having the time of their lives and enjoying alpha cock, while I'm there working at 2am, on my own. I sometimes try to tell myself that if a girl wins the genetic lottery (which is actually not that uncommon for girls), they're basically set to have an amazing, fun-packed life with a lot of guys and partying. That's just how it is. Shit happens to them, guys approach them. They're just marinating in the awesomeness of being a hot girl. No use getting bitter (but it still gets me).

I then started thinking about the process of getting a new woman, and realized from first-hand experience that even at the higher levels of game, getting women is not easy.

It's your inner and outer Game that are shitty if you're thinking this. Remember, you've only started doing this recently. How are you expected crazy results when you're not even an intermediate yet? You definitely need to subscribe to the RSD guys (Tyler and Julien in particular) and get your inner game fixed. At higher levels, getting women is very easy. I don't get it personally, but I work at a nightclub and I see the regulars that come by every weekend. I know two guys that come by every friday on their own or with friends and walk out every single time with a new girl in their arms. It's just so fucking natural to natural alphas. They don't have to use routines and getting a different girl every night is just normal for them. Seriously, check these guys out.

I've also realized that aiming and obessing for the lays so much doesn't get you very far. Girls can pick up on your intentions and how scarce you are. Getting sex should be a bonus or the icing to the cake that is Game and TRP. Sex comes to you when you're genuinely having fun and improving your life. I'm still experimenting with this advice, but it seems to be working for me.

but when I woke up this morning I had a nagging feeling from the night before that I just couldn't shake.

I seriously recommend you try out weed or other soft drugs. I can't thank weed enough for how much it's improved myself as a person and my Game. It also really helps at getting rid of irrational problems that your mind creates.

This friend of mine will be with his new girl all weekend, cuddling up in front of a fire watching a movie and having a lovely meal after working up an appetite

This nigger is gonna lose her (soon). If she's really hot, he's gonna lose her within a few weeks. I thought he should know by now that obsessing over one girl not only makes your game rusty, but it isn't proving to his girl that he's a desirable man (no girls are going after him), but more importantly, it comes off as needy. Better perspective.

What will I be doing? Going through the same dreadful process of last night on Friday and Saturday night

If it's so difficult and frustrating, why not start off with social circle bangs? Start off by meeting girls through social circles. If you're not at school, find clubs or volunteering where you can meet people.

Now how can I blame my friend for his decision? I'd love to swap weekends with the guy.

Show him this fucking picture and tell to look at it for at least 1 minute...

I want affection from women I find attractive.

That comes with self-improvement. It sounds like you want to cherish a woman. Well, unfortunately for most of us, this shit isn't possible until we've reached a "high level" of Alpha/Game. You can actually drop all pressure and cherish the girl when you've reached the point in Game where just being your true self is highly attractive. Until you become a natural, I don't really think you can cherish a girl and develop crushes for her like that. Unless you're willing to cherish her for the short while before she leaves you.

But loneliness is a powerful force. See how dangerous this is?

I gotta put emphasis on getting a group of friends. When I first started, I was lonely too, but I met this one guy in my summer school who had mad game and just connected with me on a deep level. We would go out, game girls, laugh at crazy shit and share moments together. This was all that I needed. My female/sexual needs were being met through the girls we were gaming and my bonding/emotional needs were being met by being with this guy (my wingman). All I'm saying is that it doesn't have to be a girl. Friends can fill that void for you.

Do I perhaps have to accept a sad reality that TRP concepts in their true form without justifications or rationalizations may not be for me, like it isn't for those guys?

This paragraph was sad. No matter how low I've gotten in my Journey (and I've gotten fucking low), not once did I consider abandoning it all just so I can indulge in one single woman like the beta I used to be. A Champion doesn't talk like that. But I guess my situation was a little different: back when I truly started Game, I promised myself an made a pact on the 11/11/11 11:11 a couple years ago (I'm superstitious and hopeful like that) that I would become the worlds greatest Player. I was determined no matter what type of shit pops up in my life that I was gonna keep this dream up for ever. Gaming has since become a passion for me. I really do enjoy just interacting with girls one on one and basking in their feminine energy.

TRP is definitely for you. You just think it's not because you're succombing to your desire for comfort (look at that picture again). You're tired of being on your own and struggling to get this shit together, but like every great reward in life...you really do need to invest A LOT of hard work into it. My understanding is that you've been doing this for under a year. Masters typically reach their level after 10 years of gaming.

my emotions are leaving me with an overwhelming desire to connect with women and never feel the sense of isolation I do now.

I really recommend smoking weed if you're not already. Whenever I start feeling like a bitch or lonely, I merge with the Green Bitch and feel eternal love and fulfillment for a few hours and I wake up the next day with a new found motivation. Weed and psychedelics will make you think differently than you are now. I usually take out my iPhone Notes app and type in whatever epiphany I get during my high. I'm extremely intelligent when I'm stoned and my game improves when I discover and test these things.

But to get to that point is nowhere in sight when I'm still fighting for my next approach, my next number, my next date.

I think a big part of it is also just getting the ball rolling. As soon as you get at least 2-3 plates, everything else will unfold so fucking easily. I've realized that it really is like the snowball effect. If I'm meeting girls, getting numbers, going to parties, my abundance just keeps growing. But if I'm down and shitty, it just seems so hard to get it started again.

I don't know what your outer game looks like, but it definitely does seem like you need to work a bit more on your inner game. Why didn't you ever bring this shit up? Are you so confident that your pickup skills are top notch and you can't use any improvement?

Anyway, it's nice to know that is officially my longest post ever written on Reddit. My inner Alphalfa just couldn't stand someone having a longer post than me, so I had to hit the 10k just to be sure! Hahaha.

Simmz · 2013-10-18T19:03:26+00:00

'If you are lonely when you are alone, you are in bad company.'

That quote helps me for some reason.

Cheers

floor-pi · 2013-10-18T20:34:32+00:00

Have you ever read about rumination facilitating depression and anxiety?

Have you ever heard a girl or otherwise say that someone should "get out of their head", regarding thinking too much, and not being 'present'?

I'm all for thinking, but you're analyzing yourself into a hole here, and focussing on the feelings that you're experiencing within that hole, causing negative feedback.

You need to work on your inner game.

This is one thing I worry about constantly, reading this subreddit. The nebulous concepts allow someone to come into it with a bad mindset, and twist useful concepts into something which cause depressive feelings, and witnessing the truthfulness of these concepts in everyday life allows them to confirm their depressive feelings as being justifiable and causes them to solidify.

Honestly i'd say get the fuck off the subreddit and possibly just focus on inner game, or cognitive behavioral therapy, or lifting weights. Think less (it's not often i'd suggest that for someone) until you've figured out, or been taught, a non-fallacious way of thinking.

And also, I don't know why you're ruling out relationships.

frequentlywrong · 2013-10-18T14:02:20+00:00

This is going to sound insulting.

Honestly you sound like a teenager who latched on to TRP instead of being emo,punk,... so they can have some sort of identity. Perhaps you should work on becoming a man first.

[deleted] · 2013-10-18T19:44:44+00:00

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pcadrian · 2013-10-18T19:55:14+00:00

you're too freaked out to make any moves because you haven't been able to get enough women far enough through the pipeline to the first date so that you can actually start getting comfortable on them

The courtship process never stops. Also, chances are you're not going to find someone who is relationship material in a bar/club.

vengefully_yours · 2013-10-18T20:41:49+00:00

Live for you. Everyone else can get fucked. Make your life something you want it to be, and a woman is not going to be the key to that. I have had lots of partners and relationships, married and divorced twice.

Know what I have found? Women are the main thing that will hold you back in life, other than your own issues and being adverse to taking risks. They soak up your time and money, you support them so they can live a life free of work, stress about money, and expect that some pussy is worth what you give them. It isnt.

Live for you, and if you are lonely when you are alone, then its because you are not in good company. Make yourself someone you want to be around, and do things you like to do. There is no reason you cant live your life and not be concerned with getting laid.

Doomsday_ · 2013-10-18T21:34:19+00:00

TLDR: Continually seducing new girls is hard. Commitment to the available girl is easy and tempting.

thewrightstuff88 · 2013-10-18T21:50:22+00:00

an idea i think you should adapt from TRP is to watch for red flags. always improve yourself and make sure your woman respects you. you can maintain a LTR but you need to watch for red flags, which are explained throughout various posts and on the side bar in TRP. you have to find a balance because yes, TRP is all about male sexual strategy but its also about overcoming the things that lead to red pill ideas in the first place.

enjoy a relationship, let it grow and blossom, but you must know your role as a male and make sure your woman knows that role as well. you need to assert the necessary male sexual ideals that will make sure she doesn't steer in the wrong direction. and if she does, watch for the red flags and walk away.

this way, you can tell yourself that at least you tried and you stuck to your ideals and what you believe in

relationships are tricky because yes, we have to have this strong male identity, but i think deep down, we want to connect with women, we want to be vulnerable (and nice), even if it is with just that one person.

the only problem is that they fucked us over by going out and jumping on the dicks of men who treat them like shit, then they complain how no nice guys are out there (thats logic for you)

basically, go for a relationship, but tread lightly, watch for red flags, and get the fuck outta dodge if you detect anything fishy

Steven_faceplace · 2013-10-18T23:26:04+00:00

Pick low hanging fruit

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HarleyWalker · 2013-10-18T17:06:17+00:00

I can't be bothered reading all that shit but you don't have to be a blue pill faggot just because you are in a relationship.

frequentlywrong · 2013-10-18T14:18:57+00:00

Posted to TRP 1 hour before you: http://www.sosuave.com/articles/at/powerful.htm

NoEnnuiUponMe · 2013-10-18T16:59:57+00:00

I believe your essay is totally legitimate. I have experienced this anguish myself. Let me tell you what I concluded:

Slow down.

Don't blitzkrieg every day. You can for a while, if you simply want to practice the process of pickup itself, regardless of results. But it's unsustainable. What you need to do is live a lifestyle where you "get out more." Day game is largely the answer, but not the way you're thinking of it. Instead, do an approach every now and then.

At the grocery store
Walking down the street
At the mall
Etc

What you need to do is live a lifestyle where you approach every other day or so. Get used to the habit of approaching when the opportunity strikes, rather than pushing as hard as you can all the time. Pickup groups/artists like RSD want newbies to become approaching machines. I don't think they mean permanently though, and if they do, then I would disagree. Forget about the whole "momentum building" thing. Instead, aim to have a constant edge throughout your whole life. You've got to mellow out and smell the roses.

FYI, Roosh came to the same conclusion.

Mitchell78 · 2013-10-18T18:33:50+00:00

Women/getting women shouldn't be a goal, if you need attention/validation from women to feel good about yourself then thats really your problem. Women should compliment your life nothing more though i admit these days i'm basically a mghow.

Thai_Hammer · 2013-10-18T18:15:20+00:00

Honestly, what's the worst that could happen if you "fall in the trap," as you put it?

elheretic · 2013-10-18T18:28:55+00:00

Whining like a bitch?
Feels life is meaningless unless some chick is patting you on the head?

Strong faggotry OP good riddance

Title	Loneliness is a POWERFUL force. Getting laid can be so difficult. Getting close to leaving TRP, please tell me I'm wrong
Author	nowboarding
Upvotes	44
Comments	72
Date	October 18, 2013 11:41 AM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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